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Written by Until the End on 17.10.2012 at 19:43
Quoted from facebook;
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"There are many albums less than 40 minutes with much less "stuff" in them. There are albums with only 1 or 2 songs. So I think criticism that it´s too short is a bit unfair. And if "When Time Fades Away" and "Darkness and Frost" isn´t your cup of tea, I can understand that, but for me they are one of the highlights in my life. But also think of it this way, soon you´ll get another 40 minutes and it will contain 7 guitar solos. So I hope you enjoy TIME I what it is and not what it isn´t. Thanks for all the great compliments though! Warms my frozen heart! -Jari"
He didn't mention how many instrumental non-songs will be on Time II.
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| Rating: 5 |
Written by Slayer666 on 17.10.2012 at 21:59
I have to listen to this ASAP, so I know just what I'm hating on.
Pretty much 
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| Rating: 9 |
This album is glorious. I haven't waited quite as long as most other people (I heard about Wintersun almost 2 years ago), but this album definitely exceeded my expectations and is my personal album of the year (only behind Beyond The Bridge's debut, that album is just fucking beautiful)! Amazing stuff, looking forward to Part 2. 
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| Rating: 10 |
I agree with all critics saying this album is less technical, lacks awesome solos and riffs that the debut had. But that doesn't make Time 1 less than a majestic and immeasurably epic journey of mind.
It depends on what were you expecting; fast and aggressive stuff OR epic compositions. Maybe if this wasn't split into 2 parts we would have both.
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Written by Aw Yiss on 18.10.2012 at 12:10
It depends on what were you expecting
i expected memorable stuff...i got random tunes, that i forgot as soon as they stopped playing...
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 Qube - 18.10.2012 at 15:42
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| Rating: 6 |
Jari's harsh and clean vocals are probably the main reason I might come back and listen to this album sometimes. The 2 instrumentals were the best songs for me lol. "Time" wasn't too bad either.
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| Rating: 9 |
I heard that this leaked version that came out before the stream might not be the final mix. People are saying that you clearly notice the difference just by hearing the streaming in their site (I didnt listen to it yet), so, for the people that didnt like the mix, might need to hear it again when it will be officialy out.
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Blizk - 18.10.2012 at 19:33
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| Rating: 7 |
Written by Rulatore on 18.10.2012 at 17:13
I heard that this leaked version that came out before the stream might not be the final mix. People are saying that you clearly notice the difference just by hearing the streaming in their site (I didnt listen to it yet), so, for the people that didnt like the mix, might need to hear it again when it will be officialy out.
The sound levels fluctuate in the stream, which would indicate 192kbps based on some comments about the leak.
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Blizk on 18.10.2012 at 19:33
Written by Rulatore on 18.10.2012 at 17:13
I heard that this leaked version that came out before the stream might not be the final mix. People are saying that you clearly notice the difference just by hearing the streaming in their site (I didnt listen to it yet), so, for the people that didnt like the mix, might need to hear it again when it will be officialy out.
The sound levels fluctuate in the stream, which would indicate 192kbps based on some comments about the leak.
Well.. I dont know if they were refering about the quality of the rip (and I think that's not the case since the 320kbps seemed to be legit), but the MIX, the sound of the album. Maybe this rip that came before is a promo that wasn't really the final version of the thing.
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| Rating: 9 |
Good album.
I just wish it was released a few years back. In terms of production I wasn't blown away with the catch guitar riff melodies of the first one. It's harder to appreciate this album with all the drama attached to this from Jari just to finally release it in two parts. But I'll get over that. I can see the oriental influences in the intro song. It's quite nice and very different for Wintersun. I like ambient artists like Kitaro, so I digged "When Time Fades Away".
Kinda agreeing with the comments from others in this thread about the first impression. I like orchestration, but I agree it has to be used carefully and placed strategically. When orchestration dominates the whole album, I get frustrated that the guitar work is drowned out. I remember last year when Dragonland was released... there was a little hype into releasing the album. Dragonland's previous work had epic guitar solos that soared with a theater atmosphere and when I listened to "Under the Grey Banner" I was disappointed and let down. I couldn't hear Olof's signature sound at all, except scarce brief placed parts in a song or two. I liked the narrative and continuation of their Dragonland Chronicle trilogy, but wanted less overloaded orchestration and more Olof epic guitar work.
C'est la vie!
I've got a feeling the album concept will feel whole and complete once I listen to Time II. I'll try to keep an open mind when Time II is released next year.
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| Rating: 8 |
Written by Ellrohir on 18.10.2012 at 13:59
i expected memorable stuff...i got random tunes, that i forgot as soon as they stopped playing...
Sounds like a cranial problem to me.
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jp - 18.10.2012 at 23:22
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| Rating: 5 |
Sounds like some sort of Rhapsody EP..
Only on this album the trumpets sound really fake, and the trumpets can do superfast solo's.. which is impossible.
I have trouble even calling this metal. I don't hear the lead guitar at all. I only hear orchestra's and choirs.
I hate it when orchestra's and choirs are louder than the guitar(s).
I'm constantly hearing a synthesizer. I never hear just some guitars that are great enough to make a great song.
At 2:36 in the third song (Sons of winter and stars) I thought for 20 seconds:"Yeah!! Here comes the...... WTF is this??" at 2:56
Who also thought this? 
Furthermore.
The album doesn't have very many catchy recurring melodies.
And the album is too short.
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Druss - 19.10.2012 at 00:31
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| Rating: 6 |
Like has been said before, synth is way, WAY too heavily used, guitars are somewhere in the back calling out for help, and nothing really catches with me....I've heard this sort of stuff before (not exactly, obviously), its nothing mindblowingly original. I think its pretty good, if I had it on as background music for gaming, it'd work nicely ( especially as a good slice of it, especially the instrumentals, sounds almost like a soundtrack to something), but as something to listen to on the mp3, or on the computer while I'm at something else....I don't think so. Somewhere in the region of 7/10 for me.
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| Rating: 6 |
Written by Druss on 19.10.2012 at 00:31
Like has been said before, synth is way, WAY too heavily used...
Agree. The whole thing sounds like the cover looks.
Still play their first album every now and then, but definitely can't see myself choosing to listen to this again in the future... like, ever.
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| Rating: 10 |
I bet this shit sounds awesome in good quality and with headphones on...oh and I dont know why everyone is complaining about the orchestrations. As far as I understand that was the point with this release and the more guitar driven songs will be on Time II. ie "The Way of the Fire" which in itself has one of the most ridiculous and long solos Ive heard - and that was in poor quality!
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Maco - 19.10.2012 at 02:17
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| Rating: 9 |
Finally for fuck sakes, this is awesome like the 2004 album
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| Rating: 10 |
Passes the 2004 release, easy. I nearly cried when I heard the first song kick in. Yes, I am a huge wintersun fanboy. But my expectations were through the roof, and its every bit as good as I was expecting
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| Rating: 8 |
Lived up the hype, and I can understand why he needed so much RAM.
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Wes - 19.10.2012 at 08:17
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Vermoorden on 19.10.2012 at 02:52
Passes the 2004 release, easy. I nearly cried when I heard the first song kick in. Yes, I am a huge wintersun fanboy. But my expectations were through the roof, and its every bit as good as I was expecting
I feel you man! I actually did cry upon hearing the first song (first song I heard was Time, right after Darkness and Frost), and many other times as well. I'm so happy it's finally here, or at least half of it. Truly beautiful music.
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| Rating: 10 |
Best music I've ever heard.
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| Rating: 10 |
Don't care what anyone thinks, this is just what I expected from Jari and friends. Great return for Win(ter)suN !!!!
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Death - 19.10.2012 at 09:59
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by wormdrink414 on 19.10.2012 at 00:40
Written by Druss on 19.10.2012 at 00:31
Like has been said before, synth is way, WAY too heavily used...
Agree. The whole thing sounds like the cover looks.
Still play their first album every now and then, but definitely can't see myself choosing to listen to this again in the future... like, ever.
This is only the first half of the album. I'm sure you'll give it another round when Time 2 is released.
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| Rating: 8 |
Written by opeth771 on 16.10.2012 at 00:50
This is probably the worst mixing I have heard in an album.... You can barely hear the guitars or drums because they are covered by the orchestrations.... Same thing when it comes to vocals...
I can't believe they even released something like this... It feels like an unfinished project...
That's a shame, because the album REALLY had potential and tons of great ideas.... With a better mix, it could have been the album of the year.
they wanted to pull-off an exact Diablo 3 , if you know what I mean .
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| Rating: 10 |
Jari's compositions leave me awestruck - "Time I" makes Nightwish sound like playing MIDI files. Only the intro and the part where the blast beats kick in makes it worth listening. 
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| Rating: 10 |
I don't care what people say about the Orchestrations, no other band sounds like this... the songs are all a fucking masterpiece. Could have done with being a whole album though.. never the less, I am stunned.
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| Rating: 10 |
Agree with above.. it's a masterpeice of epic proportions.
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| Rating: 7 |
Attack of phunboys ! Save yourself. 
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by Blizk on 17.10.2012 at 22:29
Väinämöinen. At least it's an obvious thematical reference.
Yeah, I know. But that was not really what I was talking about.
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Blizk - 19.10.2012 at 14:41
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| Rating: 7 |
I've never seen any album get 111 votes in 14 hours 
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Didn't live up to the hype, and the hype was not warranted. The debut was decent, this is just bad
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| Rating: 10 |
Totally different genre than the debut, so, guys, avoid comparison.
Fucking amazing album!
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by jester_race on 17.10.2012 at 08:32
Protectors of REAL metal....you and your metal-infused agitated genitals will hate this.
Well said sir, well said. There couldn't be a more accurate statement. Just look at all the criticism.
It saddens me, people's failure (or rather 'rejection') to understand that Wintersun's Time 1 is primarily a MUSIC album. It's not ought to be a compilation of solely amazing guitar solos, intensive blast beats and kickass riffs. Every bit of 'over-the-top' orchestration, choir, whatnot.. mean Wintersun has more to offer than just a metal band.
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Blizk - 19.10.2012 at 15:59
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Written by sciacallo010 on 19.10.2012 at 15:53
Totally different genre than the debut, so, guys, avoid comparison.
Not really... all I'd do is add "symphonic".
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i always fall asleep with the first tones of "Sons Of Winter And Stars" and i dont wake up earlier than in the middle of "Time"...this album is just plain dull... 
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| Rating: 10 |
Anyone else who didn't get the Mailorder edition today? Nuclear Blast sent it on Wednesday... Wednesday? Well, 'luckily' I ordered another bundle from Finland and it did arrive on time.
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Written by disarray on 19.10.2012 at 16:48
Anyone else who didn't get the Mailorder edition today? Nuclear Blast sent it on Wednesday... Wednesday? Well, 'luckily' I ordered another bundle from Finland and it did arrive on time.
Yes, so they sent it on Wednesday. You'll probably get it coming Tuesday.
I don't see anything weird with NB sending the stuff two days prior to release date.
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.10.2012 at 16:50
Yes, so they sent it on Wednesday. You'll probably get it coming Tuesday.
I don't see anything weird with NB sending the stuff two days prior to release date.
It should here now, on this very Friday, unless there's a new, uninformed and specific release date for the Mailorder edition.
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Written by disarray on 19.10.2012 at 16:53
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.10.2012 at 16:50
Yes, so they sent it on Wednesday. You'll probably get it coming Tuesday.
I don't see anything weird with NB sending the stuff two days prior to release date.
It should here now, on this very Friday, unless there's a new, disinformed and specific release date for the Mailorder edition.
release date means the day it will be sold by stores and is readily available from distros all over. It does not mean that when you pre-ordered it from the label it will arrive at your doorstep on that date, especially not when yoú live abroad. A lot of times the label only receives the finished product from the pressing plant a day before the release date.
And so what if it arrives tomorrow or next week.
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.10.2012 at 16:56
release date means the day it will be sold by stores and is readily available from distros all over. It does not mean that when you pre-ordered it from the label it will arrive at your doorstep on that date, especially not when yoú live abroad. A lot of times the label only receives the finished product from the pressing plant a day before the release date.
And so what if it arrives tomorrow or next week.
Tomorrow is Saturday. Next week is next week. They could have sent it earlier, unless they really do have problems with that, which means they could have sent an e-mail for the customers. Most likely they know how many days their package travels to Finland, so why not count the day when to send it? Well, in Finland you get the packages on the right day. With small labels the delays are a bit different thing. I can wait an year if they are nice and inform about it, for example, like Adversum Records.
Isn't readily available from distros kind of a shipping date?
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| Rating: 9 |
Written by The Arkhelist on 19.10.2012 at 03:08
I can understand why he needed so much RAM.
Isn't every computer that handle that much of keyboard/orchestrations
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| Rating: 9 |
I'm happy to hear "when time fades away" in a metal album. Good album indeed.
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I never understood why this band was the source of so much drama. It took me a while to get into the first album and I admit I like it very much now. It is definitely my kind of music; A lot of choirs, epic moments, screams, 10+m long songs. Yeah, I dig that. So I really like Time 1.
But at the same time, I do not think it is the greatest album ever. It has its flaws (a LOT of it is overdone, overused, etc.) but its not a big pile of steaming poo either.
I think it is a good album. Period.
People should stop pissing and/or wanking so much on this band.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.10.2012 at 16:56
And so what if it arrives tomorrow or next week.
I have to agree with this. What is 1 day or week compared to 8 years of waiting? I never understood people who want their stuff (music, games etc.) exactly on the release day and not a single day later.
Hell, I'm only buying this album when there's a combo pack of Time I and II available, which would be next year. Though I'll probably be listening to the songs on Youtube every now and then.
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Written by Dargor on 19.10.2012 at 19:23
I never understood why this band was the source of so much drama. It took me a while to get into the first album and I admit I like it very much now. It is definitely my kind of music; A lot of choirs, epic moments, screams, 10+m long songs. Yeah, I dig that. So I really like Time 1.
But at the same time, I do not think it is the greatest album ever. It has its flaws (a LOT of it is overdone, overused, etc.) but its not a big pile of steaming poo either.
I think it is a good album. Period.
People should stop pissing and/or wanking so much on this band.
In general I pretty much feel the same as you do .. but there's just one thing .. if people wanna hate on omething let em hate on something and if they praise it to the sky let em do so ... I really don't get the whole "fanboy" thing .. well if people like it (and I am one of these people) goo for them .. how is that being a fanboy?.. and if people don't like it, how does that make them "haters" .. just let people live with their opinions and stop giving eachother shit if we disagree with something ..
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| Rating: 9 |
Heh.. I just hope next time they seriously upgrade Jari's studio with a top of the line recording studio to handle his multiple layered tracks of orchestration/synth, etc. He's a talented guy that deserves the proper resources/tech/equipment to pull off his compositions.
Interestingly enough, Jari reminds me of Arjen Anthony Lucassen. A renaissance man of metal. He blends many different styles into his own. He can vision how each different musical instrument harmonies together once added all up. He may not be the best person to get along with, and battles personal setbacks, but is still a musical genius.
Back on topic... I do like Time I. I just wish the album was mixed a bit longer to work out inconsistencies in production. Some of the tracks felt like they had abrupt endings with the exception of the first track which blends into the second song.
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Wes - 19.10.2012 at 21:30
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| Rating: 10 |
So many people against positive opinions of this band, it's a whole cliche of it own.
Still loving the album more than anything I've ever heard.
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Very good songs, but god how overproduced! I really don't get why this album took 8+ years to make, Ensiferum's From Afar and Nightwish's 2 newest albums have at least as much orchestrations and their studio time was like 2-5 months. I also feel that Jari tried too hard to make it special. I'm talking about small stuff like weird rhythm shit and guitar work. He also said in a interview that he cries every time he hear the intro. I've heard much more epic intros even with less orchestrations. And only 3 (!) "real" songs. I've paid 20 € for 3 metal songs and 2 instrumental songs... overpriced maybe?
A lot of negative criticism but the songs are still great. I like the "folk metal veteran" choir in SoWaS 
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| Rating: 10 |
Written by moe5512 on 19.10.2012 at 22:16
Very good songs, but god how overproduced! I really don't get why this album took 8+ years to make, Ensiferum's From Afar and Nightwish's 2 newest albums have at least as much orchestrations and their studio time was like 2-5 months. I also feel that Jari tried too hard to make it special. I'm talking about small stuff like weird rhythm shit and guitar work. He also said in a interview that he cries every time he hear the intro. I've heard much more epic intros even with less orchestrations. And only 3 (!) "real" songs. I've paid 20 € for 3 metal songs and 2 instrumental songs... overpriced maybe?
A lot of negative criticism but the songs are still great. I like the "folk metal veteran" choir in SoWaS
Noise is overproduced. Or not. Is it? What? What's overproduced? It's nothing. This wasn't made for eight years, and anyway Time I & II both took the time and kinda still do. Ensiferum and Nightwish were already big, and albums are not composed in a studio (well, I guess there are few weird exceptions). Things don't have to be EPIC in order to reach tears. It's an album; it could have been split into 100 tracks, would you be happy then? 100 songs! wohoo.
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