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Release date: 19 October 2012
Style: Extreme power metal, Progressive folk metal

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Disc I
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time
06. [hidden track] [Mediabook & Mailorder edition bonus]

Disc II [DVD] [Mediabook bonus]
+ Time I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios
+ Licks & Tricks
+ Sons Of Winter And Stars - Project Demonstration
+ Photo Gallery

Disc III [instrumental CD] [Mailorder edition bonus]
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time

The biggest surprise of 2012
Top 20 albums of 2012: 5

Review
Lyrics (5)


Line-up
Teemu Mäntysaari - guitars
Kai Hahto - drums
Jari Mäenpää - bass, guitars, keyboards, vocals
Jukka Koskinen - bass

Guest musicians
Mathias "Warlord" Nygård - choirs
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Mikko "Ilmarinen" Salovaara - choirs
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Sami Hinkka - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Alpha Valtias Mustatuuli - additional growling


Additional info

Release dates:
  • October 19: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway
  • October 22: North America, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Poland (+ all other European countries not mentioned in this list)
  • October 23: Italy
  • October 24: Sweden
Formats:
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Instrumental CD of Time I, Certificate (limited to 500 copies, exclusively available at Nuclear Blast)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Signed photo card Jari Mäenpää (limited to 1000 copies, exclusively available at Amazon.de)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Wintersun logo shirt gray/black (exclusively available at Levykauppa Äx)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Shirt (black) (EMP exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case + Shirt (Nuclear Blast USA exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case
  • Blue vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster)
  • White vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster. Strictly limited to 200 hand-numbered copies) (exclusive at Nuclear Blast mailorder)
  • Digital download
  • iTunes digital download with Time I booklet

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
7.5
One of the most highly anticipated albums of the last decade; Time I finally ends the eight year silence, but was the wait worth it?

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ArcesseEum - 22.10.2012 at 20:03  
Rating: 9 40% Blind Guardian's 'Night at the Opera' + 40% Dimmu Borgir 'Deathcult Apocalypse' + 20% Kalmah's 'The Black Waltz' = Time I

I'm hoping Time II will have some more 'beautiful death'-ish songs.
Powerslavex - 22.10.2012 at 22:49  
Rating: 10 Facking epic!! Jari u r something else
PocketMetal - 23.10.2012 at 00:27  
Rating: 8 I hate it when people call intros and instrumentals non-songs . "hate"
Lit. - 23.10.2012 at 01:56  
  I'm giving it a 1, just for the hell of it.
LeChron James - 23.10.2012 at 02:02  
 
Written by Ellrohir on 22.10.2012 at 15:39

you must look better, bro

tbh i cant think up any other example of so much over-hyped nothing as this album...i would rate it 6 for objective qualities and then half this number for all the bullshit around...but i only rate albums i have physical copies of them, which is not this case and wont be unless someone gives it to me for free...so you wont see my "3" here

Yeah man, I cannot remember an album as anticipated as this one. I mostly only see that kind of enthusiasm for over hyped albums for rap albums hahaha.
The Shape 1973 - 23.10.2012 at 02:03  
Rating: 9
Written by Lit. on 23.10.2012 at 01:56

I'm giving it a 1, just for the hell of it.

You want to send that as a quote to MetalHOE. He'll just about explode.
In5anity - 23.10.2012 at 02:07  
Rating: 6 Gave it a 6 and I'm kind of sad about it. When the first album was released I totally freaked out about it and for a long time, it was my absolutely favourite album. I didn't expect this one to be something similar to me, just because my taste for music really changed these 8 years (yet Wilderuns "Olden Tales & Deathly Trails" proved to me, that also a genre I didn't listen to anymore could still amaze me). On Time 1 are some wonderful parts, that I really liked. The last 4 minutes of Sons Of Winter And Stars are fantastic and show what Wintersun are capable of. But unfortunately there are so many other parts that just flow by with some expectable orchestration and a total lack of surprises. So what do have here? An album with 33 minutes and 38 seconds of music (!) plus intro and intermission with some great ideas and unfortunately much more parts that bored me to death. I would have loved to like the album more, but I just don't.
Dark Cornatus - 23.10.2012 at 02:59  
Rating: 8 I've listened to it a few times now. My initial opinion was "Wow this is really good", then it was all over after half an hour? I felt like there was barely any vocals or guitar solos. The music is definitely too thick, to the point where you can't tell song from song. It's a good album, and i give it a generous 8. If they have of put in another full length song with more vocal and solos, i would have probably given it a 9.
Boxcar Willy - 23.10.2012 at 14:52  
Rating: 5 I gave it a six, but I feel It should be lower. This feels like it was rushed, and is unfinished which is totally BS. It got boring after awhile too.
Prometheus - 23.10.2012 at 15:34  
Rating: 10
Written by Alex Fenger on 22.10.2012 at 17:49

Ah good, this is off the top 200 charts now.
STFU !!! This album is absolutely amazing!
Prometheus - 23.10.2012 at 15:35  
Rating: 10
Written by Lit. on 23.10.2012 at 01:56

I'm giving it a 1, just for the hell of it.
You Totally Killed The Rating.
Go Fuck Yourself,Asshole.
Boxcar Willy - 23.10.2012 at 20:45  
Rating: 5
Written by Prometheus on 23.10.2012 at 15:35

Written by Lit. on 23.10.2012 at 01:56

I'm giving it a 1, just for the hell of it.
You Totally Killed The Rating.
Go Fuck Yourself,Asshole.

Calm down. His rating (which he got rid of) doesn't effect the grand sceme of things here.

Besides, everyone's entitled to thier own opinion. Just like how I think this sounds like it was made in 2 weeks.
Druss - 23.10.2012 at 21:40  
Rating: 6
Written by Prometheus on 23.10.2012 at 15:35
You Totally Killed The Rating.
Go Fuck Yourself,Asshole.


Better froth at the keyboard some more....?
!J.O.O.E.! - 23.10.2012 at 21:42  
Rating: 5 Ok, I thought he was joking but looking at his other comments I guess not.
Milena - 23.10.2012 at 23:58  
Rating: 9 Upped it to 9 when I heard the bonus DVD with the live rehearsal - the drums and bass are less buried there, and the synth feels more like backup and less overpowering when you can see what they're doing.

Guess I really turned into a fangirl with this album. Well, at least I admit it.
Wes - 24.10.2012 at 00:06  
Rating: 10
Written by Milena on 23.10.2012 at 23:58

Upped it to 9 when I heard the bonus DVD with the live rehearsal - the drums and bass are less buried there, and the synth feels more like backup and less overpowering when you can see what they're doing.

Guess I really turned into a fangirl with this album. Well, at least I admit it.


woot! haha, I actually like the album more after seeing the DVD too, some really cool stuff going on in these songs.
Milena - 24.10.2012 at 00:18  
Rating: 9
Written by Wes on 24.10.2012 at 00:06

woot! haha, I actually like the album more after seeing the DVD too, some really cool stuff going on in these songs.

I really liked their demonstration too, Jari and Teemu were a bit boring just playing riffs and a solo, but Jukka's short simple bass melodies were nice - makes me wonder how much is going on in that album that I can't hear on a basic band level, and I'm a bit pissed at Jari for producing it alone. But hey, it's not like I value a good producing job above everything else, and I can play the DVD instead of the album now and of course, Kai is an astounding drummer and a great teacher, he actually explained what he was doing

Not a fan of how goddamn ugly it looks on the shelf. I hate the cover with the passion of a million burning stars.
Wes - 24.10.2012 at 07:15  
Rating: 10
Written by Guest on 24.10.2012 at 00:25

There's a funny thing in the special thanks.


"I will release the demos"?
SWAMPL0RD - 24.10.2012 at 09:32  
Rating: 10 Time I makes me feel like I'm flying into a Heavy Metal Nebula, One so awesome and powerful it makes me rethink my place in the universe... (>")> <( " )> <( "<) <( " )> (>")> STRAWBERRY JAM BABY!!!!!!!!!
Milena - 24.10.2012 at 10:20  
Rating: 9 I completely cracked up when I saw "I will release the demos"
The hidden track is also mighty cool.
Frodd - 24.10.2012 at 10:52  
Rating: 8
Written by Milena on 24.10.2012 at 10:20

I completely cracked up when I saw "I will release the demos"
The hidden track is also mighty cool.

What hidden track?
Risto - 24.10.2012 at 11:26  
Rating: 7
Written by Frodd on 24.10.2012 at 10:52

What hidden track?

Probably special edition only or something. It has choir tracks from "Sons of Winter and Stars" and some random goof-around at the end.
Loathera - 24.10.2012 at 15:58  
Rating: 10 Really enjoyed this album. It pushed all the right buttons for me. Interesting how an album can sound so cheesy and yet so original.
Valaskjalf - 25.10.2012 at 00:17  
Rating: 10 Ok well seems the shit-slinging has calmed down so I guess I will finally give my opinion. In the end it all comes down to taste, overrated or not overrated who gives a fuck? Most bands with a large following have people who despise them so if you dont like it dont fuckin listen to it - Unless you're a staffer and just likes to piss over people because you think your opinion is more valid. Well it ain't and in the end the ones who dig it are the ones smiling.

Anyway...its fantastic. True, its kinda short and its a pity that theres only really 3 songs. Is it overbearing? Is it somewhat pompous and bombastic? Of course it is, we always knew it would be. But it just so happens that I think its also fucking great. The lack of guitars is a bit disappointing but thats why Im really amped about Time II - I have a feeling I will be even more pleased by that album.
Ozman - 25.10.2012 at 00:30  
  I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.
!J.O.O.E.! - 25.10.2012 at 01:09  
Rating: 5
Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

True fact. I also love it that when any staffer has a strong opinion on something they get accused of "pissing over people." I also love it when said people say that they're the ones smiling yet are still unable to make a comment about a band with having a moan
Risto - 25.10.2012 at 01:10  
Rating: 7
Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

None of the albums I've given a 10 are perfect, but pretty damn close (9.5+) so it gets rounded up
Ozman - 25.10.2012 at 01:13  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 25.10.2012 at 01:09

Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

True fact. I also love it that when any staffer has a strong opinion on something they get accused of "pissing over people." People really are a moany lot. I also love it when said people say that they're the ones smiling yet are still unable to make a comment about a band with having a moan



Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry
Ozman - 25.10.2012 at 01:15  
 
Written by Risto on 25.10.2012 at 01:10

Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

None of the albums I've given a 10 are perfect, but pretty damn close (9.5+) so it gets rounded up


So they are not perfect to you, so they shouldn't be awarded a 10

What does it say when you click on rate underneath an album? 10 = perfect
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 01:20  
Rating: 5
Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 01:15
What does it say when you click on rate underneath an album? 10 = perfect


Well, I personally feel if the thing you don't like is very very tiny let's say one song could have been a bit longer/shorter or some other thing that doesn't really have that much to do with the overall sound, performance, atmosphere etc... I think it's okay to stay with the perfect tag.
Void Eater - 25.10.2012 at 01:54  
  Is it true that the version that leaked on Realm of Metal a week before the release is actually not the finished version? Like the production isn't fully done on it?
3dd - 25.10.2012 at 06:54  
Rating: 5 1-No godlike guitar riffs like the first album.

2-Too much keyboard (except the intro track with Erhu, with is awesome.)

3-"Wait what, is already over? Is that's it?" (Maybe too much expectative leads to disappointment).

4-Forgettable.

Also, that chorus of "Sons Of Winter And Stars" leads to annoyance.
Keep the first album. This one is ridiculously overrated.
Sword_Chant - 25.10.2012 at 16:02  
Rating: 10
Quote:
In the end it all comes down to taste, overrated or not overrated who gives a fuck? Most bands with a large following have people who despise them so if you dont like it dont fuckin listen to it - Unless you're a staffer and just likes to piss over people because you think your opinion is more valid. Well it ain't and in the end the ones who dig it are the ones smiling.


Amen!!!
JÄY - 25.10.2012 at 21:15  
Rating: 10
Written by Void Eater on 25.10.2012 at 01:54

Is it true that the version that leaked on Realm of Metal a week before the release is actually not the finished version? Like the production isn't fully done on it?

no
Dentura - 25.10.2012 at 21:55  
Rating: 8
Written by Loathera on 24.10.2012 at 15:58

Really enjoyed this album. It pushed all the right buttons for me. Interesting how an album can sound so cheesy and yet so original.


I totally agree.
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:23  
Rating: 8
Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry


Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:29  
Rating: 5
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:23

Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry

Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.


You are right about that, but Marcel's first point is still 100% true. Most people seem to have problems with those who have no qualms having a strong opinion about music and express it even if it's in a respectful manner.
JÄY - 25.10.2012 at 22:29  
Rating: 10

Shopped me a cover made from the rear booklet cover
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:30  
Rating: 5 Less awful than the original one, but that doesn't say much.
Ozman - 25.10.2012 at 22:33  
 
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:23

Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry


Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.


Mr. Doctor quoted you with what I wanted to reply to you.
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:36  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2012 at 22:29

You are right about that, but Marcel's first point is still 100% true. Most people seem to have problems with those who have no qualms having a strong opinion about music and express it even if it's in a respectful manner.

Well, I've sat and watched these forums (the album forum and the Time I review) and I've seen both sides be pretty disrespectful. It's all really pot calling the kettle black to me. Wintersun fans getting butt hurt over negative comments and staff members trolling to forums to call music "sugary" and etc. just to piss off fans - it's all the same. Marcel and several others just don't like Wintersun, and that's fine, but does everyone really need to argue back and forth? It's kind of silly, on the part of both sides, and it makes it hard to filter through all the crap to find posts from people who actually want to have a civil discussion.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:41  
Rating: 5
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:36
Well, I've sat and watched these forums (the album forum and the Time I review) and I've seen both sides be pretty disrespectful. It's all really pot calling the kettle black to me. Wintersun fans getting butt hurt over negative comments and staff members trolling to forums to call music "sugary" and etc. just to piss off fans - it's all the same. Marcel and several others just don't like Wintersun, and that's fine, but does everyone really need to argue back and forth? It's kind of silly, on the part of both sides, and it makes it hard to filter through all the crap to find posts from people who actually want to have a civil discussion.


I don't want to toot my own horn but I think my (and I believe many others) reaction in the review thread are a mere answer to those who insult the reviewer or anyone who says "man I did not like this".
If someone is being disrespectful and calling me deaf just because I don't happen to like the band and go out in their way to look at my or others profiles jsut to create some kind of point in why we are deaf... Then it's pretty obvious I won't use sweet words (although I never insulted anyone... but calling someone on their shit is still fine in my book)
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:45  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2012 at 22:41

If someone is being disrespectful and calling me deaf just because I don't happen to like the band and go out in their way to look at my or others profiles jsut to create some kind of point in why we are deaf... Then it's pretty obvious I won't use sweet words (although I never insulted anyone... but calling someone on their shit is still fine in my book)

No reason to stoop down to other users' levels though.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:48  
Rating: 5
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:45
No reason to stoop down to other users' levels though.

I don't need to use their language nor insults. I just use logic which I don't think it's "sinking to their level"!


People could accuse me of being slightly arrogant though! That's valid... but not disrespectful.
LichBorne - 26.10.2012 at 10:23  
  Not bad album, but I dont think that anyone waited for 4 years for just 3 songs... I realy hope that TIME II is going to be something more. and I hope it will be released soon.
IronAngel - 26.10.2012 at 13:05  
 
Written by Ozman on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.


I don't know about that. The few albums I'd give a full score to (I think it's about 5-10) are usually not perfect. There are several perfect albums I'd only rate 4,5/5, whereas I can name several flaws in my absolutely favorite, 5-star desert island albums. In my rating system anyway, full score has to resonate on some irrational personal level. And usually that means the album is flawed, but it manages to turn those flaws into endearing strengths of personality. Being flawless isn't enough to be a desert island album, IMO.

But that may be beside the point. I agree that people overrate and don't value 10/10 (or 5/5 as I'm used to) as highly as I think they should. I don't think you even can rate an album so high after only a month of listening. You need to see how it matures. As with any relationship, you'll only know if they last after the period of infatuation.
Zaphod - 26.10.2012 at 17:54  
Rating: 7
Written by IronAngel on 26.10.2012 at 13:05

I don't think you even can rate an album so high after only a month of listening. You need to see how it matures. As with any relationship, you'll only know if they last after the period of infatuation.

I completely agree with this. If I'd rate an album ten it means that I love it, but that my opinion of it doesn't change over time.
Super_Greg - 27.10.2012 at 01:32  
  Short but good! I'm diggin it.
Vasil de Shumen - 30.10.2012 at 13:33  
Rating: 6 I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM
Gopherhawk - 30.10.2012 at 19:44  
Rating: 10 Love the Asian influence in this record. Very hip.

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