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Release date: 1988
Style: Thrash metal


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01. No Place For Disgrace
02. Dreams Of Death
03. N.E. Terror
04. Escape From Within
05. Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting [Elton John cover]
06. Hard On You
07. I Live You Die
08. Misguided Fortune
09. P.A.A.B
10. The Jones

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Flotsam & Jetsam is an Arizona-based thrash band that was formed by drummer Kelly David-Smith and bassist Jason Newsted in 1983. Despite the fact that they were immensely talented, they never seemed to find their place in the limelight and seemed doomed to be forever overshadowed by the more "big name" thrash bands of the time. This was probably because by the time their name started really circulating among the different metal scenes and crowds it was already the early 90's and thrash music was no longer trendy. Their second album has been on repeat in my car for the past couple days, it's pretty damn savage. The sound is aggressive yet still catchy, many of the tracks have an "eastern" feel to them as you might expect from the cover art. It's the type of album you'd put in the deck when going out on the town with the boys for a night of debauchery. The song topics are engaging and thought provoking without taking away from the fun, definitely highly recommended.

So, this is the album where they lost Jason Newsted to Metallica. You might say they were better off without him because to me this album's better than the first one, if even just by a little. The production is definitely a step up from the first album, the songs sound cleaner, which isn't always a good thing for thrash, but in this case it works. Troy Gregory, the bassist who replaced Newsted, fills his shoes nicely, though I couldn't fairly call one better than the other since they're both great.

The songwriting is stellar and I like that Gilbert (the guitarist who wrote most of the songs) decided to take a stand against the Parent Music Resource Center (who are targeted in the song Hard On You). I commend him for bumping heads with an organization looking to limit his creative freedoms; this was a dangerous move for a band that hadn't really found a massive fan base yet. I also really liked the Hari-Kari themed title track and how you can feel the Samurai's emotions change with the tempo and tone of the song when he commits the final act. Yet, what I love most about this album is the aggressive beats. The drummer, David-Smith, is fully-automatic when called for but without "masturbating" and trying to steal the song. The two guitarists, Carlson and Gilbert, do a great job of synergizing their twin axe attack throughout, top-notch players. They've got some sick facemelters on here, too: check tracks 1, 4, and 8 for examples.

I can't really call this album original though, they seem to be following a path set by Metallica's Ride The Lightning. I hear a lot of fast paced tempos into melodic interludes and vice versa, it just feels as if they were influenced by it. I'm not trying to say they bit off them or anything like that though, Metallica was so influential at the time. Also, when I first heard this album I was like "Damn, this guy sounds like somebody," then it hit me. Eric A.K.'s vocals are somewhat similar to Joey Belladonna's, listen to the first part of "No Place For Disgrace" and then listen to the first part of "Indians" and judge for yourself. Again, not saying this was ripped off, they just sound similar. Eric probably has a better traditional singing voice as well, if you listen to some of their other stuff. Still, even though this album might not be groundbreaking for its time, by all means it's still a great thrash piece and is worthy of the high rating it holds on Metal Storm.

Favorite Tracks: "No Place For Disgrace," "I Live You Die," "Misguided Fortune," "Escape From Within"

published 27.01.2011 | Comments (2)

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Dangerboner - 23.02.2010 at 12:18  
Rating: 9 Haha the Elton John cover song is awesome Really good album overall too

There's very few bands who have released two albums as good as F&J
Marcel Hubregtse - 23.02.2010 at 16:55  
Written by Dangerboner on 23.02.2010 at 12:18

Haha the Elton John cover song is awesome Really good album overall too

I totall despise that cover. I ALWAYS skip it when playing the album.
Dangerboner - 23.02.2010 at 17:44  
Rating: 9 Just out of curiosity, why don't you like it? I played it three times today, and I'm about to play it again

It does stick out, but it's one of my favs
Marcel Hubregtse - 24.02.2010 at 02:09  
Written by Dangerboner on 23.02.2010 at 17:44

Just out of curiosity, why don't you like it? I played it three times today, and I'm about to play it again

It does stick out, but it's one of my favs

Yeah it does stick out... like a throbbing sore thumb
But then again I HATE most of Elton John's songs and F&J didn't add anythign extra to their cover, it is quite the same as the original. For me a good cover is when a band makes the song their own and not try to copy it too much.
JÄY - 16.11.2010 at 19:26  
Rating: 10 Great album!
if only i could find more releases like this...thrashy, yes....but so damn melodic and with soaring vocals
AndMetalForAll - 10.01.2013 at 14:47  
Rating: 9 This is the band's best album alongside their debut album.. That is also excellent!
musicalkaratekid - 11.02.2015 at 15:33  
Rating: 9 It's the only album I've ever heard by Flotsam and Jetsam (Yeah I know, I'm missing out a lot on other albums), but it's still pretty terrific stuff. Instrumentation here is so much more than just standard thrash, proving more flawless with every track. The guitar work in particular is riveting, as my personal favourites the title track and "Escape from Within" prove. The vocals I think are a little weaker as a result, but not by much at all.
Fearmeister - 12.02.2015 at 00:16  
Rating: 9
Written by musicalkaratekid on 11.02.2015 at 15:33

It's the only album I've ever heard by Flotsam and Jetsam (Yeah I know, I'm missing out a lot on other albums)

To be fair, you're not missing out on much by skipping all the other albums. The debut might be worth a listen though but that's about it
Lit. - 12.02.2015 at 01:34  
  ...And I thought Bonded By Blood was disgustingly overrated.
TrueMetalJope - 14.02.2016 at 18:08  
Rating: 9 No Place For Disappointment
Dr. Strawberry - 26.09.2016 at 10:21  
Rating: 3 Great lullaby album !
Doomsday For The Deceiver and No Place For Disgrace always send me to sleep after playing a few tracks...every time..., without fail. Beat insomnia, choose Flotsam & Jetsam !

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