01. Sudden Death 02. Public Enemy No. 1 03. Whose Life (Is It Anyways?) 04. We The People 05. Guns, Drugs & Money 06. Never Dead 07. New World Order 08. Fast Lane 09. Black Swan 10. Wrecker 11. Millennium Of The Blind 12. Deadly Nightshade 13. 13
Additional info Exclusive limited vinyl edition includes Th1rt3en split across two picture-discs, retaining the correct track order. Each disc includes art from the album package as well as an exclusive album poster
2011 set big expectations for Megadeth for that year and for 2012. After huge "Big 4" shows, the return of Dave Ellefson and "the kiss and make up" between Dave Mustaine, Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield, finally two of the pioneers of thrash metal, Megadeth and Metallica are together. Certainly Th1rt3en is a great way to show the good vibes they are transmitting since 2010.
I dont see the point of bringing the demo tracks back "New World Order" , "Millennium of the blind" .. hmm... not an awful album, but i have to admit that i didn't really enjoy it ...i'll give it a few more listens, maybe its one of those albums who need some getting used-to first, but this definitely mean that it isn't "Catchy" by any means.
Written by Zombie on 03.11.2011 at 23:20 but i have to admit that i didn't really enjoy it ...i'll give it a few more listens, maybe its one of those albums who need some getting used-to first, but this definitely mean that it isn't "Catchy" by any means.
I've heard the album a few times now, but it wasn't till yesterday when I listened to it with headphones on that it really started sounding great to me. Not the whole album though, the songs I thought were dull and boring to start with, I do still think that about them. But songs like "Public Enemy", "Whose Life..." and "Never Dead" sounded way better than I had intially thought. The good songs definitely are catchy, as I was finding myself singing along and headbanging to the good songs on the album yesterday. lol
The video for "Public Enemy" is epic win funny. Who doesn't like monkey antics and tommy-guns??! And I guess the raging battle of the bands between Mega-dave and Metalli-field is now officially over seeing as how "Lulu" is now the all time worst album ever rated by a human being on Metalstorm...even monkeys know to stay away!
The video for "Public Enemy" is epic win funny. Who doesn't like monkey antics and tommy-guns??! And I guess the raging battle of the bands between Mega-dave and Metalli-field is now officially over seeing as how "Lulu" is now the all time worst album ever rated by a human being on Metalstorm...even monkeys know to stay away!
As if the video for "Public Enemy" wasn't awesome enough, here's Megadeth in full Halloween costume (Dave as Frankenstein, Jr. as The Wolfman, Chris as The Phantom Of The Opera, and Shawn as Dracula ) performing the song on Jimmy "Donkey Kong" Kimmel Live!
They also performed "Peace Sells", "Symphony Of Destruction" and "Holy Wars", but none of these were televised...
Written by Zombie on 03.11.2011 at 23:20 but i have to admit that i didn't really enjoy it ...i'll give it a few more listens, maybe its one of those albums who need some getting used-to first, but this definitely mean that it isn't "Catchy" by any means.
I've heard the album a few times now, but it wasn't till yesterday when I listened to it with headphones on that it really started sounding great to me. Not the whole album though, the songs I thought were dull and boring to start with, I do still think that about them. But songs like "Public Enemy", "Whose Life..." and "Never Dead" sounded way better than I had intially thought. The good songs definitely are catchy, as I was finding myself singing along and headbanging to the good songs on the album yesterday. lol
Ok listen to this albums or couple of songs from this album several times and then play for example something from Countdown to extinction or Rust i peace or Youthanasia etc. This album, for me, could have been far more better concerning that david elefson is back in a band.
Written by terrorist on 08.11.2011 at 08:22 Ok listen to this albums or couple of songs from this album several times and then play for example something from Countdown to extinction or Rust i peace or Youthanasia etc. This album, for me, could have been far more better concerning that david elefson is back in a band.
It's not as good as RIP, no way, and Youth is far more consistent in it's quality of material, even though "13" is more varied, which makes it a more interesting listen. Could it have been a lot better? Absolutely, there's no question about it. But still, there are some good songs on the album, and I prefer it overall to the last couple of Megadeth albums...
^ awesome. So far the main thing holding the album back is the lyrics. The music is as usual awesome (Broderick is now reaching Marty Friedman levels of guitar soloing greatness)...but the lyrics are so damn generic and boring. Usually lyrics don't really bother me, so long as the music is good, but the ones on this album are so poor that it feels like it's actually holding it back from being a great album. Even Endgame had some average lyrics but they didn't distract from the music. That being said songs like Public Enemy No 1 are still catchy and I'm hoping that the rest of the album will grow on me like that song has.
Quote: Broderick is now reaching Marty Friedman levels of guitar soloing greatness
Apparently some people still fail to see the difference between soulful bends or arpeggios intentionally played at medium-speed to give the maximum amount of feeling and 25 note-per-second scale runs that amaze just for their technique.
Broderick's good, but he ain't no Friedman and I don't see how he would ever be.
Written by Cill O' Connor on 08.11.2011 at 10:14 That being said songs like Public Enemy No 1 are still catchy and I'm hoping that the rest of the album will grow on me like that song has.
Public Enemy was a song that very much underwhelmed me when I first heard it... But repeated plays of it has made me really love it, and the key to a catchy song, is that you feel like singing along to it. And now I always sing along to it when I hear it.
The album as a whole, is too patchy to ever really gain good momentum, but still, I can't deny that tracks like "Millennium Of The Blind", "New World Order", "Never Dead", and "Deadly Nightshade" are great Megadeth songs.
Written by Cill O' Connor on 08.11.2011 at 10:14 That being said songs like Public Enemy No 1 are still catchy and I'm hoping that the rest of the album will grow on me like that song has.
Public Enemy was a song that very much underwhelmed me when I first heard it... But repeated plays of it has made me really love it, and the key to a catchy song, is that you feel like singing along to it. And now I always sing along to it when I hear it.
The album as a whole, is too patchy to ever really gain good momentum, but still, I can't deny that tracks like "Millennium Of The Blind", "New World Order", "Never Dead", and "Deadly Nightshade" are great Megadeth songs.
I could'nt agree with you more, i felt the exact same way about Public Enemy but its now become one of my favorite songs on the album! If i had top pick my favorite song from Th1rt3en it would have to be either Black Swan or the album closer 13, glad to see Megadeth is back and their stronger then ever
Written by thewall30 on 10.11.2011 at 02:00 I could'nt agree with you more, i felt the exact same way about Public Enemy but its now become one of my favorite songs on the album! If i had top pick my favorite song from Th1rt3en it would have to be either Black Swan or the album closer 13, glad to see Megadeth is back and their stronger then ever
I think my intial disappointment with that song, was because it wasn't a technical thrashfest, which is what I wanted to hear. But after a few times hearing the song, with no certain expectations, it grew on me, and I really can't deny it's catchiness!
I loved the original version of "Black Swan", but the re-recording that's on 13 is definitely inferior IMO... As for the title track, it's quite good, but it's very anti-climatic for me. It's a song that feels as if it's missing something, as if the whole song is a build up to an awesome crescendo that never arrives. I like it, but it feels more like a missed opportunity to be a great song, rather than that being what it actually is.
If I was to rate all the songs on the album individually, this is probably how I'd rate them:
Sudden Death: 9/10
Public Enemy No.1: 10/10
Whose Life...: 9/10
We The People: 7/10
Guns, Drugs & Money: 5/10
Never Dead: 10/10
New World Order: 10/10
Fast Lane: 7/10
Black Swan: 8/10 (9/10 for the original version)
Wrecker: 7/10
Millennium Of The Blind: 10/10
Deadly Nightshade: 10/10
13: 7.5/10
Written by Angelic Storm on 10.11.2011 at 14:14 Nick Menza actually wrote the lyrics to "New World Order"...
I'm not talking only about that.
The whole Endgame album (lyrics, cover art, everything) is about the New World Order, in case you haven't noticed. Endgame's cover art is the FEMA camp roundup. Davey has done several interviews with Alex Jones and other 9/11 truthers. It's one of his most recent goals: to spread the 'truth' about the NWO.
Quote: Broderick is now reaching Marty Friedman levels of guitar soloing greatness
Apparently some people still fail to see the difference between soulful bends or arpeggios intentionally played at medium-speed to give the maximum amount of feeling and 25 note-per-second scale runs that amaze just for their technique.
Broderick's good, but he ain't no Friedman and I don't see how he would ever be.
I didn't understand most of that. Oh well, Broderick's solos just sound great to me anyway. I actually still prefer Friedman's work but Mustaine certainly found a damn good guitarist for these last 2 albums.
Written by Cill O' Connor on 08.11.2011 at 10:14 That being said songs like Public Enemy No 1 are still catchy and I'm hoping that the rest of the album will grow on me like that song has.
Public Enemy was a song that very much underwhelmed me when I first heard it... But repeated plays of it has made me really love it, and the key to a catchy song, is that you feel like singing along to it. And now I always sing along to it when I hear it.
The album as a whole, is too patchy to ever really gain good momentum, but still, I can't deny that tracks like "Millennium Of The Blind", "New World Order", "Never Dead", and "Deadly Nightshade" are great Megadeth songs.
Yeah I've started to really like the first 4 tracks, they are catchy after a few playthroughs. I still need to give the album a couple more listens before I can give a final verdict but I'd agree that it seems it just isn't consistent enough.
Mustaine ...i think the Mustaine the godfather of all heavy trash metal this time
this album just awesome new album ...
in this album more great full tunes .. and very nice lyric
i can taste new ideas in this album .. i say this is the top heavy trash metal album this year
thanks Mustaine
I downloaded this just to get a taste, but couldnt make it past the 3rd or 4th track. Ratings tell me maybe I should give this another try. Whuddya think, my peeps?
Mustaine ...i think the Mustaine the godfather of all heavy trash metal this time
this album just awesome new album ...
in this album more great full tunes .. and very nice lyric
i can taste new ideas in this album .. i say this is the top heavy trash metal album this year
thanks Mustaine
I can't taste new ideas about this album and i think that mustaine is trying to sold out again, but it's just my impression, i reeealy hope that i'm wrong...besides, Dave Mustaine is my biggest inspiration and of course my favorite guitar player!
Written by JÄY on 13.11.2011 at 05:03 Ratings tell me maybe I should give this another try. Whuddya think, my peeps?
I say the ratings are unjustified and are mostly a reflection of Metallica fanboy abandonment issues. This is a mediocre album.
Realistically though even a 4/10 would put this album leagues above Metallica's latest. Unless I read what you wrote wrong which may render what I just wrote irrelevant but nonetheless true.
As for my thoughts on the album, it's really nothing special, but it's not that bad either. Has it's moments.
Mustaine ...i think the Mustaine the godfather of all heavy trash metal this time
this album just awesome new album ...
in this album more great full tunes .. and very nice lyric
i can taste new ideas in this album .. i say this is the top heavy trash metal album this year
thanks Mustaine
I can't taste new ideas about this album and i think that mustaine is trying to sold out again, but it's just my impression, i reeealy hope that i'm wrong...besides, Dave Mustaine is my biggest inspiration and of course my favorite guitar player!
I think Th1rt3en album seem to be like Endgame album ... but there it is more new tunes with very nice and rules lyric
awesome playing guitar Mustaine with drummer Shawn Drover
and Chris Broderick awful playing in :Guns, Drugs, & Money and other songs .
i can taste this one really awesome Thrash metal album .
Mustaine ...i think the Mustaine the godfather of all heavy trash metal this time
this album just awesome new album ...
in this album more great full tunes .. and very nice lyric
i can taste new ideas in this album .. i say this is the top heavy trash metal album this year
thanks Mustaine
I can't taste new ideas about this album and i think that mustaine is trying to sold out again, but it's just my impression, i reeealy hope that i'm wrong...besides, Dave Mustaine is my biggest inspiration and of course my favorite guitar player!
I think Th1rt3en album seem to be like Endgame album ... but there it is more new tunes with very nice and rules lyric
awesome playing guitar Mustaine with drummer Shawn Drover
and Chris Broderick awful playing in :Guns, Drugs, & Money and other songs .
i can taste this one really awesome Thrash metal album .
I must agree with you...but guns, drugs & Money is the weaker song of the album, i think he has better performances in here!
If anyone thinks my rating is too high... I listened to this album right after listened to lulu...
It really shouldn't bother you what anyone else thinks of your rating.
It does bother me greatly, everytime someone's opinion differs from mine, it's as if my life has no more meaning. The first time I read ultraboris's review of MoP, I cried nonstop for 3 weeks, why can't everyone in the world see things the way I see them?
Mustaine ...i think the Mustaine the godfather of all heavy trash metal this time
this album just awesome new album ...
in this album more great full tunes .. and very nice lyric
i can taste new ideas in this album .. i say this is the top heavy trash metal album this year
thanks Mustaine
I can't taste new ideas about this album and i think that mustaine is trying to sold out again, but it's just my impression, i reeealy hope that i'm wrong...besides, Dave Mustaine is my biggest inspiration and of course my favorite guitar player!
I think Th1rt3en album seem to be like Endgame album ... but there it is more new tunes with very nice and rules lyric
awesome playing guitar Mustaine with drummer Shawn Drover
and Chris Broderick awful playing in :Guns, Drugs, & Money and other songs .
i can taste this one really awesome Thrash metal album .
I must agree with you...but guns, drugs & Money is the weaker song of the album, i think he has better performances in here!
If i want talk abut the album Th1rt3en there is a more than one point we should talk abut it
if you ask abut the new ideas ..in this album i tell you abut the lyric and awesome playing every think in this album
Guns, Drugs, & Money .. just new idea and good idea in this album it need more listing i cant say this idea is the weaker song of the album ,,,and this not every think because all album is a wonderful ..my favorite songs in the album its ( Never Dead -Wrecker -Fast Lane - Public Enemy No. 1 -Sudden Death -New World Order -Deadly Nightshade - We The People -Guns, Drugs, & Money -Whose Life )
for me i listen to this album the first time in one day 8 time ..and say awesome album .. every think is complete .
Been listening to RIP when I saw it being the number 1 metal album of all time in the beginning of 2011. And since that time followed "Th1rt3en". Listened to it a few times and bought the CD today. I think it's a great album, but just a bit to long. RIP has a good length for instance. But still the album sounds awesome! And the Solo's are freaking awesome!
The vid of Public Enemy No 1 is the funniest vid I saw in years from a Metal band. (the last was "Redneck" from Lamb of God)
Good album, but I expected much more because ENDGAME was epic!!
Anyway, Dave Mustaine is a great songwritter!!
Like said in Argentina: Megadeth, Megadeth, AGUANTE Megadeth!!
At this moment i don't enjoy it,maybe i should try more to appreciate it
but my view at this time is one step back from endgame
and i have to say public enemy no 1 and black swan are highlights of the album
Not really digging this one, this album isn't bad but certainly not great. Kind of funny how to me New World Order is one of the best songs here also, heard in on the Youthanasia remaster first and it was even one of my favourite songs off that CD. Floating between 6 and 7/10 for this one.
Written by Ceddybu on 22.11.2011 at 00:33 Not really digging this one, this album isn't bad but certainly not great.
But, considering what happened in the recording studio with Loutallica, this album is comparably a masterpiece so Megadave fans are overrating it.
Nice to see a fair score here for the most part though. Are we users getting more objective? Or just more cynical.
Well I would give Lulu probably a 7.5-8, pushing the boundaries or art and music while staying fresh and accessible.
...Is what I would say if I was some hipster reviewer who had never listened to Metallica (or music, for that matter) before. The logic behind this one being overrated does make perfect sense.
I don't know if I am getting more objective or cynical or what really. I guess if you browsed my collection you could source out some seemingly outrageous scores but I try to just be fair based on my own personal experience with an album.
Written by Ceddybu on 22.11.2011 at 00:53 Well I would give Lulu probably a 7.5-8, pushing the boundaries or art and music while staying fresh and accessible.
...Is what I would say if I was some hipster reviewer who had never listened to Metallica (or music, for that matter) before. The logic behind this one being overrated does make perfect sense.
Oh man you had me going there for a second. I was prepared to delve into the whole "how can you say this pushes the boundaries" argument.
Its exactly as I thought, so it did not exceed expectations. Isn't that how we rate our bands/releases? I knew this would be a little main stream compared to Endgame. It was loaded with some heavy and complex stuff, getting our attention. Then with the massive exposure with the big 4, Megadeth strenthened their following. So Dave gave us more anthem, sing-a-long, catchy tunes, mixed in with the edgy megasignature sounds. Love it, but not their best.
Not that much. i have to say the track whose life sucks. Guns drugs and money, musically, is the best until now.
This is not what i expected from Megadeth for their 13th album especially after Endgame the hit.
this is a review after one time listening to the album and i have to say, I'm not impressed, which means it's not catchy at all. maybe it needs more time.:(
Cant believe this album has a 7.8...really? its musically much more interesting then the previous one and it was a 8.2 WTF is wrong with you people...this album is great just needs some 3 or 4 listenings to get into it...cmon
What a pointless argument, especially for a Megadeth album. It needs 3 or 4 "listenings" to get into it? Okay, maybe I missed all the complex subtleties the first two times.
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But songs like "Public Enemy", "Whose Life..." and "Never Dead" sounded way better than I had intially thought. The good songs definitely are catchy, as I was finding myself singing along and headbanging to the good songs on the album yesterday. lol 
Oh well, Broderick's solos just sound great to me anyway. I actually still prefer Friedman's work but Mustaine certainly found a damn good guitarist for these last 2 albums.
