Metallica - Lulu [Collaboration]



2.1 | 813 votes |
Release date: 31 October 2011
Style: Alternative metal

Owners:

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43 want it


Disc I
01. Brandenburg Gate
02. The View
03. Pumping Blood
04. Mistress Dread
05. Iced Honey
06. Cheat On Me

Disc II
01. Frustration
02. Little Dog
03. Dragon
04. Junior Dad

Bottom 20 albums of all time: 1

Line-up
James Hetfield - vocals, rhythm guitar
Kirk Hammett - lead guitar, backing vocals
Lars Ulrich - drums
Robert Trujillo - bass, backing vocals

Session musicians:
Lewis Allan "Lou" Reed - vocals, guitar

Additional musicians:
Sarth Calhoun - electronics
Jenny Scheinman - violin, viola & string arrangements
Megan Gould - violin
Ron Lawrence - viola
Marika Hughes - cello
Ulrich Maas - cello
Rob Wasserman - stand up electric bass
Jessica Troy - viola

Additional info
Composed by Lou Reed with significant arrangement contributions by Metallica.

Produced by Lou Reed, Metallica, Hal Willner and Greg Fidelman.

Recorded by Greg Fidelman and Mike Gillies
Additional engineering by Jim Monti, Dan Monti, Sara Lyn Killion and Kent Matcke.
Mixed by Greg Fidelman.
Assisted by Geoff Neal.

Recorded at Metallica HQ.
Mixed at Sunset Sound.

Mix coordination by Lindsay Chase.

Mastered by Vlado Meller at Masterdisk.

Wax mannequin (about 1900) and other objects: collection of Werkbundarchiv - Museum der Dinge, Berlin.

All music by Lou Reed and Metallica.
All lyrics by Lou Reed.
All Songs © 2011 Lou Reed Music (BMI)/Creeping Death Music (ASCAP).

© 2011 Sister Ray Enterprises Inc/We're Only In It For The Music.

Staff review by
Daniell
Rating:
2.0
Some people righteously claim that this is not a real Metallica release and thus it can't be viewed as such. I agree. Metallica decided to co-operate with Lou Reed in his interpretation of Alban Berg's opera based on Frank Wedekind's plays "Erdgeist" and "Die Büchse der Pandora". The history behind that opera is as complicated and dramatic as one can imagine, assuming what a dark story it tells.

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published 04.11.2011 | Comments (164)

Guest review by
AndMetalForAll
Rating:
4.3
Lulu brings back Metallica in a collaboration album with Lou Reed. A German visionary named Frank Wedekind wrote a collection of plays about a woman called Lulu who was both a muse and a mystery, the first form of woman. Most of the songs have death, sexuality, love and spite themes. Although it's not a Metallica album, the expectation was off the charts but the result is terrible.

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published 14.11.2011 | Comments (18)

Guest review by
ScreamingSteelUS
Rating:
7.4
The worst thing you can possibly do is treat this like a Metallica album. It is not. Lulu is a Lou Reed album that just so happens to feature the guys from Metallica as his backing band. Of course, Metallica still had to go and put their name on it, which recklessly raised people's expectations, and the heavy criticism weighed at this album is largely true no matter how you spin it. Nonetheless, while this was a disappointment, it is not totally devoid of merit, and more of an interesting experiment than a Son-of-St. Anger-sized failure.

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published 17.08.2013 | Comments (10)

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21.12.2014 - 01:04
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2014 at 01:00

What band that Matty loves is aan Pentagram clone?

Ghost B.C is what I imagine a boring version of Pentagram would sound like.
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21.12.2014 - 01:05
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
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He's talking about Ghost. He went into my album votes and saw a 10 and can't seem to get off that topic, which I repeat is 100% irrelevant to the conversation at hand

So far I've devoted maybe 45 words to them. Most of my responses have been about Lulu, but evidently the moment someone suggests that Ghost is blahverage you shut down.
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21.12.2014 - 01:07
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck

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From: The Netherlands

Written by defeat213 on 21.12.2014 at 01:04

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.12.2014 at 01:00

What band that Matty loves is aan Pentagram clone?

Ghost B.C is what I imagine a boring version of Pentagram would sound like.


Ghost can be called a more or less Blue Oyster Cult wannabe but not a Pentagram clone. Hell Pentagram is more a Black Sabbath clone than that Ghost clones them.
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21.12.2014 - 01:09
!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct

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From: UK

Logical fallacies abound. I love it when people, in serious tone, use someone's taste to invalidate a personal opinion. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
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21.12.2014 - 01:10
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
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Ghost can be called a more or less Blue Oyster Cult wannabe but not a Pentagram clone. Hell Pentagram is more a Black Sabbath clone than that Ghost clones them.

I mean you're not wrong, but I'm not sure if you're 100% right. Regardless, Ghost has always struck me as a very bland group. If I'm going to listen to revivalist music then I'd rather listen to modern day trad-doom.
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21.12.2014 - 06:37
Rating: 3
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog

Posts: 3298
From: UK

Written by defeat213 on 21.12.2014 at 00:24

Lulz, I'd care about lyrics if it weren't for the fact that guitar-based music is easily one of the least lyrical genres out there.

No words...
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21.12.2014 - 12:23
Rating: 1
Uldreth

Posts: 1140
From: Hungary
Written by defeat213 on 21.12.2014 at 00:24

Lulz, I'd care about lyrics if it weren't for the fact that guitar-based music is easily one of the least lyrical genres out there. C'mon man, there's whole genres dedicated to mindless gore. Phobophile has some of the most mindless lyrics I've ever heard and that's easily one of Cryptopsy's best works. This isn't hip-hop where lyrics are actually remotely important, instead it's an old Lou Reed talk-singing over backing instrumentals). And I don't know what you expected riff-wise, this wasn't meant to be an in-your-face thrasher of an album, it's composed much like a spoken word album, so of course the riffs aren't going to exciting, but they serve their purpose well. Also, if 68 minutes is "torture-length" to you then I'm also assuming Dopethrone, Terria, The Call of the Wretched Sea, Paragon of Dissonance, and the Galilean Satellites are all tortuous for you as well. Plus, The View is only one song, and the infamous "table verse" is a small part of the song, complaining about it makes you look like every 14-year old Metallica fan that slams Lulu despite having not heard it (and apparently you haven't even heard the whole thing). I still can't get over the fact that I just typed up that response to a baby's first Pentagram-clone fan. But please, tell me more about how lyrics are actually important to you, a user on the same site that collectively gave Molesting the Decapitated an 8.2 out of 10.

No, metal is not a lyricist's genre at all, but still, this one's lyrics are offensively bad and they are quite audible, unlike say Cryptopsy's, where it is quite impossible to understand what Lord Worm randomly barks.

You are also forgetting, that the long albums you listed are all good listens and thus their length is not a disadvantage, not to mention, their styles are such that the long format benefits them. This album is BAD that is why it is "torture-length".

Also, no matter if the riffs serve their purpose, or not, if they do not make listening to the album a positive experience at all. Stuff on this album might exist for a purpose, but that doesn't mean it makes a good album. It does not. It is bad, downright terrible. If you enjoy it, that's fine, though this is one album I cannot imagine ANYONE liking, but I can tell you, the hate reaction this album gets is not because metal fans are so stupid they cannot understand it or w/e, but because this shit is so bland that prior to hearing this album I could not imagine any music can be this bad.
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21.12.2014 - 15:00
Rating: 8
Unhealer
Eclecticist

Posts: 2187
From: Argentina

Written by Uldreth on 21.12.2014 at 12:23

but I can tell you, the hate reaction this album gets is not because metal fans are so stupid they cannot understand it or w/e, but because this shit is so bland that prior to hearing this album I could not imagine any music can be this bad.


No, the hate reaction this album got is because it reached ears it should never have. If Lou had picked another unknown/under metal band and had gotten a similar result, some would have praised and maybe most would have hated it as any other experimental album of this kind, there wouldn't have been such a fuss about it.
But no, Lou chose fucking Metallica, probably the most mainstream metal band and so the album (or at least "The View", people have admittedly rated this 1 or 2 based on that song only or 5 more minutes of the album maybe) got to people you would expect to check new Metallica material out, that included a whole lot of fans, haters and "casuals" if you may.
Add to that the fact that it's cool to hate Metallica these days, so people are really vocal about everything these guys do wrong. This was a chance not to be missed really.


tl;dr = This album is hated this much because Lou chose Metallica as his backup band and thus reached ears any Metallica output would have and of course wouldn't be pleasant to, not because of the actual album content.
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21.12.2014 - 16:37
Rating: 3
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog

Posts: 3298
From: UK

Written by Unhealer on 21.12.2014 at 15:00

tl;dr = This album is hated this much because Lou chose Metallica as his backup band and thus reached ears any Metallica output would have and of course wouldn't be pleasant to, not because of the actual album content.

A large portion of the hate undoubtedly stems from the polarity of how people view Metallica, but you'd be overgeneralising if you said that those perspectives constituted the entire reception of the album. I'm quite open-minded, yet look at my rating
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21.12.2014 - 17:13
Rating: 8
Unhealer
Eclecticist

Posts: 2187
From: Argentina

Written by LeKiwi on 21.12.2014 at 16:37

A large portion of the hate undoubtedly stems from the polarity of how people view Metallica, but you'd be overgeneralising if you said that those perspectives constituted the entire reception of the album. I'm quite open-minded, yet look at my rating


I know, I wasn't implying that. I'm saying that is why the record is hated SO much and not just bastardized for a while and then forgotten like other "bad" albums.
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21.12.2014 - 17:16
Rating: 1
Mattybu

Posts: 2588
From: Canada

Written by Unhealer on 21.12.2014 at 15:00

got to people you would expect to check new Metallica material out, that included a whole lot of fans, haters and "casuals" if you may.


Stupid casuals, when are they going to learn how awesome sniffing shit in the wind is?
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21.12.2014 - 21:44
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
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You are also forgetting, that the long albums you listed are all good listens and thus their length is not a disadvantage, not to mention, their styles are such that the long format benefits them. This album is BAD that is why it is "torture-length".

Except this album isn't a bad listen, so the length doesn't hurt it. Regardless, the guy didn't even listen to the full album, so it's whatever.
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21.12.2014 - 21:48
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
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I could not imagine any music can be this bad.

Ever heard of crunkcore or slam? At worst, this album is inoffensive, at best it's great. Why there's so much vitriol for an album that has no place being in the discussion of worst albums ever is something I'll never get.
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22.12.2014 - 12:10
Rating: 1
Uldreth

Posts: 1140
From: Hungary
Written by defeat213 on 21.12.2014 at 21:48


Ever heard of crunkcore or slam? At worst, this album is inoffensive, at best it's great. Why there's so much vitriol for an album that has no place being in the discussion of worst albums ever is something I'll never get.

On slam you mean slam death metal? I much prefer slam to this atrocity. Slam is dumb heavy music for the sake of being heavy, but is quite enjoyable if done well. Unlike this pile of shit .
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23.12.2014 - 08:30
Rating: 2
Paw!!

Posts: 852
From: Indonesia

Still the worst.
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30.12.2014 - 09:41
Rating: 9
defeat213

Posts: 17
From: USA
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On slam you mean slam death metal? I much prefer slam to this atrocity. Slam is dumb heavy music for the sake of being heavy, but is quite enjoyable if done well. Unlike this pile of shit .

There's no such thing as slam "done well"
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18.09.2015 - 23:49
Rating: 6
Nicko's Nose

Posts: 251
From: Canada

Terrible album, but you guys shouldn't judge Lou Reed based on it. He was a great songwriter.
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19.10.2015 - 18:40
Rating: 6
Nicko's Nose

Posts: 251
From: Canada

Ok I just listened to this again and it really isn't that bad. Sure, Lou's "vocals" are pretty terrible, but the music is ok.
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11.08.2016 - 05:27
Rating: 1
Mattybu

Posts: 2588
From: Canada

This is as bad as "art" of any form can be. I'd go as far to say this is objectively bad, to be honest. This is a game changer in terms of monumental failures on every level. Hard to believe only about 5 years have gone by since this came out, feels like an eternity.
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