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Release date: 18 January 2013
Style: Power metal

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01. Nabataea
02. World Of War
03. Live Now!
04. Far From The Stars
05. Burning Sun
06. Waiting For The Thunder
07. Hold Me In Your Arms
08. Wanna Be God [Dedicated To Freddie Mercury]
09. Straight Out Of Hell
10. Asshole
11. Years
12. Make Fire Catch The Fly
13. Church Breaks Down
14. Another Shot Of Life [Limited edition bonus]
15. Burning Sun [Hammond version] [Dedicated To Jon Lord] [Limited edition bonus]
16. No Eternity [Japanese bonus]

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Line-up
Andi Deris - vocals
Michael Weikath - guitars
Sascha Gerstner - guitars
Daniel Löble - drums
Markus Grosskopf - bass

Additional musicians:
Matthias Ulmer - keyboards
Billy King - backing vocals
Olaf Senkbeil - backing vocals


Additional info
Japanese release date: 16th January 2013

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
8.5
With such a terribly generic name and quite mundane album cover, you might be excused for doubting the content of the German legends' fourteenth original studio album. Those that have kept on the ball with Helloween in recent years however, will know that the band have been on remarkably good form and will certainly not judge this proverbial book by the cover.

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published 22.01.2013 | Comments (51)

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Angelic Storm - 17.01.2013 at 20:22  
Rating: 9
Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 20:05
Will you resell it..give you 10$ extra,kidding


Hehee I was sad at missing out on the t-shirt bundle, but the bandana and calendar makes up for that. xD

I just updated the album's wiki page, as they had the wrong writers' credits for "Live Now!" and "Church Breaks Down". Both Sascha and Andi wrote the former, whilst Sascha wrote the latter song on his own. No surprises that "No Eternity" was written by the king of bonus tracks, Markus!
Metal Invader - 17.01.2013 at 21:23  
Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 17.01.2013 at 20:22

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 20:05
Will you resell it..give you 10$ extra,kidding


Hehee I was sad at missing out on the t-shirt bundle, but the bandana and calendar makes up for that. xD

I just updated the album's wiki page, as they had the wrong writers' credits for "Live Now!" and "Church Breaks Down". Both Sascha and Andi wrote the former, whilst Sascha wrote the latter song on his own. No surprises that "No Eternity" was written by the king of bonus tracks, Markus!

haha..if only i knew before for calendar and bandana
So Markus wrote No Eternity..what is it like?
I have just two remarks for this album 1.Live Now(song for kids (imo) ) and 2.Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)
Others are just great and Andis singing is great
JÄY - 17.01.2013 at 22:49  
Rating: 9
Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23


Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)



How is this song a dedication to Freddie? The lyrics seem to depict a corrupt ruler who wants to be god. Did you read the Freddie thing somewhere?
Metal Invader - 17.01.2013 at 22:54  
Rating: 9
Written by JÄY on 17.01.2013 at 22:49

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23


Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)



How is this song a dedication to Freddie? The lyrics seem to depict a corrupt ruler who wants to be god. Did you read the Freddie thing somewhere?

You have track by track explanation on helloween facebook paige!
sorry if i misuderstood that
JÄY - 17.01.2013 at 23:06  
Rating: 9
Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 22:54

Written by JÄY on 17.01.2013 at 22:49

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23


Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)



How is this song a dedication to Freddie? The lyrics seem to depict a corrupt ruler who wants to be god. Did you read the Freddie thing somewhere?

You have track by track explanation on helloween facebook paige!
sorry if i misuderstood that

I sure hope it's not a dedication to Freddie....that'd be sad
Metal Invader - 17.01.2013 at 23:11  
Rating: 9
Written by JÄY on 17.01.2013 at 23:06

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 22:54

Written by JÄY on 17.01.2013 at 22:49

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23


Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)



How is this song a dedication to Freddie? The lyrics seem to depict a corrupt ruler who wants to be god. Did you read the Freddie thing somewhere?

You have track by track explanation on helloween facebook paige!
sorry if i misuderstood that

I sure hope it's not a dedication to Freddie....that'd be sad

Well i checked again 2 minutes ago and Andi said in this explanation that it is..so i agree with you!
Angelic Storm - 17.01.2013 at 23:14  
Rating: 9
Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23
haha..if only i knew before for calendar and bandana
So Markus wrote No Eternity..what is it like?
I have just two remarks for this album 1.Live Now(song for kids (imo) ) and 2.Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)
Others are just great and Andis singing is great


The outer packaging is embossed too, so the artwork is popped up on the cover.

Most times when I've bought CDs with bonus tracks on them, there is no info about the bonus song/s in the booklet, and no lyrics for it either. But "No Eternity" is just treated like a regular song in the booklet, with lyrics, writing credits (to Markus), and it's own pumpkin illustration (A skull and crossbones with a skull shaped pumpkin!).

As for what the song is like, it definitely should have been on the album itself rather than a bonus track. It's a driving, melodic song, with a huge atmospheric chorus which is classic Helloween. How Live Now! made the album and this song didn't, is beyond me. "No Eternity" is a great song for sure!
Metal Invader - 17.01.2013 at 23:20  
Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 17.01.2013 at 23:14

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23
haha..if only i knew before for calendar and bandana
So Markus wrote No Eternity..what is it like?
I have just two remarks for this album 1.Live Now(song for kids (imo) ) and 2.Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)
Others are just great and Andis singing is great


The outer packaging is embossed too, so the artwork is popped up on the cover.

Most times when I've bought CDs with bonus tracks on them, there is no info about the bonus song/s in the booklet, and no lyrics for it either. But "No Eternity" is just treated like a regular song in the booklet, with lyrics, writing credits (to Markus), and it's own pumpkin illustration (A skull and crossbones with a skull shaped pumpkin!).

As for what the song is like, it definitely should have been on the album itself rather than a bonus track. It's a driving, melodic song, with a huge atmospheric chorus which is classic Helloween. How Live Now! made the album and this song didn't, is beyond me. "No Eternity" is a great song for sure!

Ah so like most of their bonuses..well i will have to download this song for shure!(if only some one i know have it and put it for download soon,blinking with my eyes);)
JÄY - 17.01.2013 at 23:48  
Rating: 9
Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 23:20

Written by Angelic Storm on 17.01.2013 at 23:14

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23
haha..if only i knew before for calendar and bandana
So Markus wrote No Eternity..what is it like?
I have just two remarks for this album 1.Live Now(song for kids (imo) ) and 2.Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)
Others are just great and Andis singing is great


The outer packaging is embossed too, so the artwork is popped up on the cover.

Most times when I've bought CDs with bonus tracks on them, there is no info about the bonus song/s in the booklet, and no lyrics for it either. But "No Eternity" is just treated like a regular song in the booklet, with lyrics, writing credits (to Markus), and it's own pumpkin illustration (A skull and crossbones with a skull shaped pumpkin!).

As for what the song is like, it definitely should have been on the album itself rather than a bonus track. It's a driving, melodic song, with a huge atmospheric chorus which is classic Helloween. How Live Now! made the album and this song didn't, is beyond me. "No Eternity" is a great song for sure!

Ah so like most of their bonuses..well i will have to download this song for shure!(if only some one i know have it and put it for download soon,blinking with my eyes);)


Also blinking eyes
Metal Invader - 17.01.2013 at 23:55  
Rating: 9
Written by JÄY on 17.01.2013 at 23:48

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 23:20

Written by Angelic Storm on 17.01.2013 at 23:14

Written by Metal Invader on 17.01.2013 at 21:23
haha..if only i knew before for calendar and bandana
So Markus wrote No Eternity..what is it like?
I have just two remarks for this album 1.Live Now(song for kids (imo) ) and 2.Wanna Be God(poor dedication for legendary Freddie Mercury)
Others are just great and Andis singing is great


The outer packaging is embossed too, so the artwork is popped up on the cover.

Most times when I've bought CDs with bonus tracks on them, there is no info about the bonus song/s in the booklet, and no lyrics for it either. But "No Eternity" is just treated like a regular song in the booklet, with lyrics, writing credits (to Markus), and it's own pumpkin illustration (A skull and crossbones with a skull shaped pumpkin!).

As for what the song is like, it definitely should have been on the album itself rather than a bonus track. It's a driving, melodic song, with a huge atmospheric chorus which is classic Helloween. How Live Now! made the album and this song didn't, is beyond me. "No Eternity" is a great song for sure!

Ah so like most of their bonuses..well i will have to download this song for shure!(if only some one i know have it and put it for download soon,blinking with my eyes);)


Also blinking eyes

You should check a doctor for this Jay lol kidding
I Think we need to buy a case of beer cos imo blinking dosent help
Iamawalker - 18.01.2013 at 13:53  
Rating: 9 The album sounds fantastic so far! (I'm abusing the play-button on YouTube at the moment, but it won't take long for it to end up in the mail-box! )

Although I don't think it's neither for better or for worse, It's noticeably more immediate and direct in comparison to its predecessor. Slightly more catchy as well. Only time will tell wether or not this means the album is going to lack longevity in the long run, as many instant hitters seem to do. Nevertheless it shall be a pure pleasure getting to know this album and spend time with it!

My favorite songs in this first-impression are "Nabateae" (This one has everything), "World Of War" (heavy, fast, insane chorus), "Burning Sun" (vocally, the album's "Painkiller" hehe), "Hold Me In Your Arms" (breathtaking ballad and maybe their finest ever), "Straight Out Of Hell" (great and worthy title-track), "Make Fire Catch The Fly" and "Church Breaks Down" (I fully agree with Angelic Storm, these last two songs show Helloween at their finest. A massive way to end the album).
RPDGrubby - 18.01.2013 at 16:46  
Rating: 10 Straight Out Of Hell is amazing...perfect...is trully a masterpiece
R Lewis - 18.01.2013 at 17:46  
Rating: 8 You're an ASSHOLE!
Unna Med - 18.01.2013 at 18:01  
Rating: 9 That shit is heavy. Their best...since the Keeper, I guess.
Mountain King - 18.01.2013 at 18:05  
Rating: 9 The ballad "Hold Me In Your Arms" is great. Better than any ballad they did recently and way better than "Smile OF The Sun"...
Metal Invader - 18.01.2013 at 19:56  
Rating: 9 I was listening to the album a couple of times now and I like it very much!
Lyrics and music are great..The only criticism I have on two tracks
1.Live Now!
2.Wanna Be God
And small remarks goes for too small variety among speedy songs(imo)
All in all this is for me a great album!
renai - 18.01.2013 at 22:53  
Rating: 9 Great listening, at least over my expectation.
Angelic Storm - 19.01.2013 at 02:50  
Rating: 9
Written by Mountain King on 18.01.2013 at 18:05

The ballad "Hold Me In Your Arms" is great. Better than any ballad they did recently and way better than "Smile OF The Sun"...


I actually didn't think "Hold Me In Your Arms" was anything special, until I adjusted the pitch so that it was in standard tuning... and then all of a sudden it was transformed into an awesome ballad! I really like "Smile Of The Sun"... though that song was a grower for me. I didn't think much to it initially.

About the album's longevity, I think it will have it for one fundamental reason: It's a very dynamic album. There's a lot of different sounds and flavours to the album, so it's likely it will never get repetitive, or dull to listen to in it's entirety.
LeChron James - 19.01.2013 at 06:21  
  I'm only four songs deep on this beast and I already love it WAY more than 7 Sinners. Not that the aforementioned was a poor effort, I just couldn't get it up for that album. WOO!
Iamawalker - 19.01.2013 at 08:36  
Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 19.01.2013 at 02:50

About the album's longevity, I think it will have it for one fundamental reason: It's a very dynamic album. There's a lot of different sounds and flavours to the album, so it's likely it will never get repetitive, or dull to listen to in it's entirety.


Hmm, yeah I think you're right. It makes sense!
R'Vannith - 19.01.2013 at 12:39  
Rating: 8 I definitely agree. That's the only problem I had with the previous one, it was fantastic at the time and a bit edgier but didn't have the longevity that I'm guessing this one will have. Time will tell.
Mountain King - 19.01.2013 at 14:34  
Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 19.01.2013 at 02:50

Written by Mountain King on 18.01.2013 at 18:05

The ballad "Hold Me In Your Arms" is great. Better than any ballad they did recently and way better than "Smile OF The Sun"...


I actually didn't think "Hold Me In Your Arms" was anything special, until I adjusted the pitch so that it was in standard tuning... and then all of a sudden it was transformed into an awesome ballad! I really like "Smile Of The Sun"... though that song was a grower for me. I didn't think much to it initially.

About the album's longevity, I think it will have it for one fundamental reason: It's a very dynamic album. There's a lot of different sounds and flavours to the album, so it's likely it will never get repetitive, or dull to listen to in it's entirety.

I like that Deris is not singing in high pitch on this ballad cause he is really good at low octaves when it comes to ballads and the mid section piano part is really good. Smile of the sun was okay, maybe the production spoiled it. When I think of Helloween with Deris ballads, I think of "In The Middle Of The Heartbeat", "Forever And One", "Light The universe" "Time" and definitely not "The Smile Of The Sun"...
Snbn - 19.01.2013 at 14:47  
Rating: 7 Listened the album 6 times full and got say that next time i listen this next button gonna be pushed on these songs : Live Now!, Waiting for the Thunder, Hold Me in Your Arms, Wanna be God and Asshole.

Live Now! : I dont get it why this song is on the album. So boring chorus and nothing special on the song.
Waiting for the Thunder : Trying to be If I Could Fly 2.....
Hold Me in Your Arms : Never get these ballads on every fucking power metal albums. So cheezy to get pussy.
Wanna be God: Worst song from Helloween since Chameleon album
Asshole: why why why?????
PhantomLord21 - 19.01.2013 at 15:25  
  I'm one of the unlucky ones: my copy doesn't arrive until the 28th.

That said, this is a kickass album, judging from the three songs I've heard of it on the internet. I wasn't overly fond of "Nabataea" when I first heard it, but I love it now, "World Of War" sounds pretty solid and "Live Now!" (calling it now: title for next Helloween live album) is a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Probably not going to be better than 7 Sinners for me (I love just about every track off that one), but it definitely starts on a higher note than 7 Sinners did ("Where The Sinners Go" wasn't a bad starter to the album, but it definitely wasn't a great song).
Metal Invader - 19.01.2013 at 15:53  
Rating: 9
Written by Snbn on 19.01.2013 at 14:47

Listened the album 6 times full and got say that next time i listen this next button gonna be pushed on these songs : Live Now!, Waiting for the Thunder, Hold Me in Your Arms, Wanna be God and Asshole.

Live Now! : I dont get it why this song is on the album. So boring chorus and nothing special on the song.
Waiting for the Thunder : Trying to be If I Could Fly 2.....
Hold Me in Your Arms : Never get these ballads on every fucking power metal albums. So cheezy to get pussy.
Wanna be God: Worst song from Helloween since Chameleon album
Asshole: why why why?????

Imo on every album after Keeper albums they have one or two songs when i ask myself WHY!?
So im used to this kind of songs now (for me that is not Asshole..its Live Now! and Wanna Be God) but that is matter of taste imo!
Rulatore - 19.01.2013 at 17:54  
  The chorus on "Burning Sun" reminds me of another power metal band, I don't know where I heard something like that before, sounds a bit like Rhapsody.
Metal Invader - 19.01.2013 at 18:55  
Rating: 9
Written by Rulatore on 19.01.2013 at 17:54

The chorus on "Burning Sun" reminds me of another power metal band, I don't know where I heard something like that before, sounds a bit like Rhapsody.

I have the same problem with No Eternity(japanese bonus track)..i heard that chorus but not necessarily in metal song but its almost the same
and now its killing me cos i cant remember where i heard it!:)
Stratoman - 19.01.2013 at 21:30  
Rating: 10 Without a doubt this album is an awesome follow-up to 7 Sinners which was also a great success of Helloween (which is one of my favourite bands). When I first hear Nabataea single I was kind of disappointed (I guess many of you haven't noticed as previous comments don't mention it) as the rythm guitars are a copy (or recycled version) of "The king of 7 eyes" of Andi Deris solo album "Come in From the Rain" in 2000 (if I'm not mistaken, take the time to listen to that album if you haven't some good songs are worth it), also Make Fire Catch the Fly has some items similar to that same song. Nevertheless, Nabataea has some awesome parts like the slow bridge when the song is about to end (I guess after two spins more both songs will grow on me).
Now the good (or perhaps excelent) songs of the album I, without a doubt would state that Straight Out of Hells is my favourite song of the album and an excellent choise for the album title.
Second place would be Far from the Stars (even if the lyrics are followed by Waiting for the Thunder, World of War and Burning Sun (which fight fiercely for the second place, I agree with one comment said before of Halford vocals style in Painkiller, somehow it reminded me the same). No doubt helloween returned in 2013 with a fast mind raping album, fast drums and riffs in most of the songs are proof of that, even lytics are more aggresive and elaborated than some of the songs in 7 Sinners (like If a Mountain Could Talk, Are You Metal or Raise the Noise, which I have to admit, even if lyrics are not complex and don't say much I enjoy a lot, the three of them).
Only two songs have not made it for me, as many have said before, I Wanna Be God (which is a song dedicated to Freddie Mercury, only because of the drumming and riffs "We will Rock You" style) and Live Now! which is not the worst from Helloween but is not in harmony with the other items presented in the album. I have to add that I haven't found No Eternity so that is why I did not include it so far.
Finally I have to say only one thing "Helloween Nailed it One More Time", hopefully will be One of the best albums of 2013.
Angelic Storm - 19.01.2013 at 23:12  
Rating: 9
Written by Mountain King on 19.01.2013 at 14:34
I like that Deris is not singing in high pitch on this ballad cause he is really good at low octaves when it comes to ballads and the mid section piano part is really good. Smile of the sun was okay, maybe the production spoiled it. When I think of Helloween with Deris ballads, I think of "In The Middle Of The Heartbeat", "Forever And One", "Light The universe" "Time" and definitely not "The Smile Of The Sun"...


"Smile Of The Sun" is a darker ballad, and so is very different in tone and feeling than the other Helloween ballads you mentioned. It's a very bleak lyric, and the music certainly is fitting for it. I do love the song now, but much like most of the other songs on "7 Sinners", it didn't initially click with me. It took 3 or 4 plays before I started to really love it.

In many ways, "7 Sinners" was like the natural spiritual successor of "The Dark Ride", as it really pushed the darker, heavier side of the band to the fore, in a very similar way to that album. In contrast, "Straight Out Of Hell" is almost to "7 Sinners", what "Rabbit Don't Come Easy" was to "The Dark Ride". A follow up that retains some of the darker nature of it's predecessor, but is overall brighter sounding, with a more optimistic and uplifiting tone.

As this line-up of the band has matured, the more assured it has become, and Sascha's very different sounding, and diverse compositions this time around shows that he's no longer "the new guy". As he now has the confidence to spread his wings musically, and offer ideas that are outside of the conventinal box, to the band. And more importantly, make them work within the Helloween framework. On paper, "Asshole" really should be an awful song, but it is in fact, one of the album's greatest triumphs, and helps give the album it's very fresh and dynamic feel.

Helloween somehow keep managing to stay on top of the power metal pile, and it's their dynamism, the not being afraid to step out of the box that they themselves helped create, which has helped them to do that. It is a very difficult thing to do, to stay true to your roots, whilst also experimenting, and trying new ideas, and even more difficult to do that and succeed. But Helloween have done this, and "Straight Out Of Hell" is perhaps the most assertive statement of that yet. Being able to marry the hulking, mechanized, futuristic pummel of prime Fear Factory, with a classic power metal attack as they do in "World Of War", is just one shining example of how they are able to reinvent themselves whilst retaining their core identity. It really is a great album!
Mountain King - 20.01.2013 at 03:18  
Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 19.01.2013 at 23:12

Written by Mountain King on 19.01.2013 at 14:34
I like that Deris is not singing in high pitch on this ballad cause he is really good at low octaves when it comes to ballads and the mid section piano part is really good. Smile of the sun was okay, maybe the production spoiled it. When I think of Helloween with Deris ballads, I think of "In The Middle Of The Heartbeat", "Forever And One", "Light The universe" "Time" and definitely not "The Smile Of The Sun"...


"Smile Of The Sun" is a darker ballad, and so is very different in tone and feeling than the other Helloween ballads you mentioned. It's a very bleak lyric, and the music certainly is fitting for it. I do love the song now, but much like most of the other songs on "7 Sinners", it didn't initially click with me. It took 3 or 4 plays before I started to really love it.

In many ways, "7 Sinners" was like the natural spiritual successor of "The Dark Ride", as it really pushed the darker, heavier side of the band to the fore, in a very similar way to that album. In contrast, "Straight Out Of Hell" is almost to "7 Sinners", what "Rabbit Don't Come Easy" was to "The Dark Ride". A follow up that retains some of the darker nature of it's predecessor, but is overall brighter sounding, with a more optimistic and uplifiting tone.

As this line-up of the band has matured, the more assured it has become, and Sascha's very different sounding, and diverse compositions this time around shows that he's no longer "the new guy". As he now has the confidence to spread his wings musically, and offer ideas that are outside of the conventinal box, to the band. And more importantly, make them work within the Helloween framework. On paper, "Asshole" really should be an awful song, but it is in fact, one of the album's greatest triumphs, and helps give the album it's very fresh and dynamic feel.

Helloween somehow keep managing to stay on top of the power metal pile, and it's their dynamism, the not being afraid to step out of the box that they themselves helped create, which has helped them to do that. It is a very difficult thing to do, to stay true to your roots, whilst also experimenting, and trying new ideas, and even more difficult to do that and succeed. But Helloween have done this, and "Straight Out Of Hell" is perhaps the most assertive statement of that yet. Being able to marry the hulking, mechanized, futuristic pummel of prime Fear Factory, with a classic power metal attack as they do in "World Of War", is just one shining example of how they are able to reinvent themselves whilst retaining their core identity. It really is a great album!

Anything that Helloween do is great, I never disliked any album and they are may fav Power Metal band for a reason . Although 7 Sinners was praised a lot and it is a solid album, I prefer other Deris albums over it...
R Lewis - 20.01.2013 at 15:32  
Rating: 8 The intro for "Live Now!" reminds me pretty much Bon Jovi's "It's My Life"...
Mountain King - 20.01.2013 at 19:55  
Rating: 9 I love the progressive outro of "Church Breaks Down". Great riff with odd drumming. Love this band...
quisableed - 20.01.2013 at 22:45  
Rating: 10 I didn't expect a thing like this. I really love it, they re still amazing
Metal Invader - 21.01.2013 at 21:45  
Rating: 9
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 21.01.2013 at 20:05

...but much like most of the other songs on "7 Sinners"...
...As this line-up of the band has matured, the more assured it has become...

-7 Sinners is good ? Everyone said it was bad except listeners in here. I have listened to it more than 10 times in order to find out why I was different from others.
-Last month a music shop assistant told me new Helloween album would be out soon, I asked him if 7 Sinners was sellable ? He told me zero so far in these 2 years. I was glad I am normal, not "different".
-7 Sinners is a heavy metal, sounds like Metallica's Death Magnetic, which is deliberately overproduced. Helloween played awful Heavy Metal. I hope this album is not another 7 Sinners.

Did I misunderstood or you called all of us not normal who like 7 sinners!?
I dont care cos "everyone" said its bad,cos i have my own opinion and i like it!
You dont and its ok (matter of taste imo,not "normality")
Straight Out Of Hell is imo great album which contains some elements of 7 Sinners and Gambling with the devil but you should listen to it and make you own opinion!Peace
PhantomLord21 - 21.01.2013 at 22:02  
 
Quote:
Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 21:45

Written by Lustful Maid on 21.01.2013 at 20:05

...but much like most of the other songs on "7 Sinners"...
...As this line-up of the band has matured, the more assured it has become...

-7 Sinners is good ? Everyone said it was bad except listeners in here. I have listened to it more than 10 times in order to find out why I was different from others.
-Last month a music shop assistant told me new Helloween album would be out soon, I asked him if 7 Sinners was sellable ? He told me zero so far in these 2 years. I was glad I am normal, not "different".
-7 Sinners is a heavy metal, sounds like Metallica's Death Magnetic, which is deliberately overproduced. Helloween played awful Heavy Metal. I hope this album is not another 7 Sinners.

Did I misunderstood or you called all of us not normal who like 7 sinners!?
I dont care cos "everyone" said its bad,cos i have my own opinion and i like it!
You dont and its ok (matter of taste imo,not "normality")
Straight Out Of Hell is imo great album which contains some elements of 7 Sinners and Gambling with the devil but you should listen to it and make you own opinion!Peace

You just covered what I was going to say.
Metal Invader - 21.01.2013 at 22:18  
Rating: 9
Quote:
You just covered what I was going to say.

Well i can not believe I have to defend my(and others) opinions!
PhantomLord21 - 21.01.2013 at 23:07  
 
Quote:
Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 22:18

You just covered what I was going to say.

Well i can not believe I have to defend my(and others) opinions!

Yeah, the guy overstepped a mark or two by saying he was normal because he didn't like it. I was actually tempted to write a long post/rant pointing out every tiny flaw in his argument (including the fact that, in fact, there is a lot of positive praise for 7 Sinners across the web), but you saved me from having to do that. I'm seriously wondering whether that guy is a troll or not anyway...
Metal Invader - 21.01.2013 at 23:45  
Rating: 9
Quote:
Written by PhantomLord21 on 21.01.2013 at 23:07

Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 22:18

You just covered what I was going to say.

Well i can not believe I have to defend my(and others) opinions!

Yeah, the guy overstepped a mark or two by saying he was normal because he didn't like it. I was actually tempted to write a long post/rant pointing out every tiny flaw in his argument (including the fact that, in fact, there is a lot of positive praise for 7 Sinners across the web), but you saved me from having to do that. I'm seriously wondering whether that guy is a troll or not anyway...

I was thinking the same "to put him on the ground" but then i was saying to my self:what if i misuderstood him(cos my English is limited and steem was still blowing from my ears):) so i calm my self down first and then wrote
And yes its true that 7 Sinners have some good reviews from metal magazines and even high place on chart and good selling in some countries..but i say,he also have right to dislike the album but not to insult us who like it..thanx for support
PhantomLord21 - 22.01.2013 at 00:57  
 
Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 23:45

I was thinking the same "to put him on the ground" but then i was saying to my self:what if i misuderstood him(cos my English is limited and steem was still blowing from my ears):) so i calm my self down first and then wrote
And yes its true that 7 Sinners have some good reviews from metal magazines and even high place on chart and good selling in some countries..but i say,he also have right to dislike the album but not to insult us who like it..thanx for support

To be honest, my first language is English and I could barely make sense of what he was saying anyway, it was that poorly phrased.

And I agree with you: if you dislike something, you have a right to say it. What you don't have a right to do is insult the people who do like it. It's something quite a few people do when they find something they don't like, but it's one of those things that really shouldn't be done. It's something a few people seem to forget when they use the internet and assume that, because it's not a face to face conversation, they can say what they want without repercussions. In fact, I find the opposite is true: you need to be more respectful online than offline because anyone can read what you say and, without the face to face contact, can interpret what you say in ways you genuinely didn't intend (for example, they might think you're being serious when you're not).
Stratoman - 22.01.2013 at 04:04  
Rating: 10
Written by PhantomLord21 on 22.01.2013 at 00:57

Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 23:45

I was thinking the same "to put him on the ground" but then i was saying to my self:what if i misuderstood him(cos my English is limited and steem was still blowing from my ears):) so i calm my self down first and then wrote
And yes its true that 7 Sinners have some good reviews from metal magazines and even high place on chart and good selling in some countries..but i say,he also have right to dislike the album but not to insult us who like it..thanx for support

To be honest, my first language is English and I could barely make sense of what he was saying anyway, it was that poorly phrased.

And I agree with you: if you dislike something, you have a right to say it. What you don't have a right to do is insult the people who do like it. It's something quite a few people do when they find something they don't like, but it's one of those things that really shouldn't be done. It's something a few people seem to forget when they use the internet and assume that, because it's not a face to face conversation, they can say what they want without repercussions. In fact, I find the opposite is true: you need to be more respectful online than offline because anyone can read what you say and, without the face to face contact, can interpret what you say in ways you genuinely didn't intend (for example, they might think you're being serious when you're not).


Probably the store that guy mentions is in the middle of a desert, such an unfair comment for songs like "Who is Mr. Madman" or "World of Fantasy"... Anyway I just listened to No Eternity and as many others I cannot believe how Live Now! made it to the album with this great song competing for a place...
I have spinned this album so many times I can't stop enjoying Straight Out of Hell, Burning Sun, Far From the Stars, Waiting for the Thunder, Church Breaks Down, Asshole and World of War though the others are good too they haven't grown on me yet... Nabataea defenitely is better in the album than in the single (But still feel the same when comparing to The King of 7 Eyes, same goes to Make Fire Catch the Fly).
Metal Invader - 22.01.2013 at 12:50  
Rating: 9
Written by PhantomLord21 on 22.01.2013 at 00:57

Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 23:45

I was thinking the same "to put him on the ground" but then i was saying to my self:what if i misuderstood him(cos my English is limited and steem was still blowing from my ears):) so i calm my self down first and then wrote
And yes its true that 7 Sinners have some good reviews from metal magazines and even high place on chart and good selling in some countries..but i say,he also have right to dislike the album but not to insult us who like it..thanx for support

To be honest, my first language is English and I could barely make sense of what he was saying anyway, it was that poorly phrased.

And I agree with you: if you dislike something, you have a right to say it. What you don't have a right to do is insult the people who do like it. It's something quite a few people do when they find something they don't like, but it's one of those things that really shouldn't be done. It's something a few people seem to forget when they use the internet and assume that, because it's not a face to face conversation, they can say what they want without repercussions. In fact, I find the opposite is true: you need to be more respectful online than offline because anyone can read what you say and, without the face to face contact, can interpret what you say in ways you genuinely didn't intend (for example, they might think you're being serious when you're not).

That is so true mate!
I think he is just a kid and have to learn that kind of stuff(Obviously the hard way)
Metal Invader - 22.01.2013 at 13:26  
Rating: 9
Written by Stratoman on 22.01.2013 at 04:04

Written by PhantomLord21 on 22.01.2013 at 00:57

Written by Metal Invader on 21.01.2013 at 23:45




Probably the store that guy mentions is in the middle of a desert, such an unfair comment for songs like "Who is Mr. Madman" or "World of Fantasy"... Anyway I just listened to No Eternity and as many others I cannot believe how Live Now! made it to the album with this great song competing for a place...
I have spinned this album so many times I can't stop enjoying Straight Out of Hell, Burning Sun, Far From the Stars, Waiting for the Thunder, Church Breaks Down, Asshole and World of War though the others are good too they haven't grown on me yet... Nabataea defenitely is better in the album than in the single (But still feel the same when comparing to The King of 7 Eyes, same goes to Make Fire Catch the Fly).

A perfect example of a matter of taste..i dont like No Eternity much as Find My Freedom,Aiming High or Faster We Fall bonuses (but still its way better then Live Now!)
Straight Out Of Hell is also my least favorite song among Nabatea,Make Fire Catch the Fly,Years,World of War but decent song still (they need more variety imo)
As for the desert store i think that most of Malaysia is covered with forest but you could be right!:)
Vombatus - 22.01.2013 at 15:59  
  I usually don't check out new power metal but somehow eneded up listening this.

And don't regret it at all ! Has some really good tunes though taking about 2 or 3 of the weaker songs would make it an excellent album... 1 hour for this kind of PM is a bit long for my taste.
Metal Invader - 22.01.2013 at 16:47  
Rating: 9
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 22.01.2013 at 15:22

...what if i misuderstood him(cos my English is limited and steem was still blowing from my ears...
...7 Sinners have some good reviews from metal magazines and even high place on chart ...
...he also have right to dislike the album but not to insult us who like it...

Certainly, you have misunderstood me. "Nomal" in here means "People who like a popular album or follow a trend even musically it is not that good, such as One Republic's albums". I did not say who like 7 Sinners are "abnormal or twisted". It was your own defination.

You believe in Magazines and Charts ?


Then i apologize!

But you said that you are glad that you are normal and not "different" cos you dont like it!
So if you dont explain it more you are stuck in contex that we understand it was,insult!Agree?

As for magazines they have more independent reviews and a bit more profesional then our is(imo)

Charts are imo just indications is album on some track or just crap and obviously 7 Sinners is not what "everyone" around you said it is for many many people in the world!
(So I do not know why you're surprised that here people like the album?)

I repeat again;you have right to your own opinion and dislike album! (just next time put more explanations so there will be no mistakes please) peace
Metal Invader - 22.01.2013 at 18:22  
Rating: 9
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 22.01.2013 at 17:37

...But you said that you are glad that you are normal and not "different" cos you dont like it!
So if you dont explain it more you are stuck in contex that we understand it was,insult!Agree?

What's wrong ? I think it is geographic misunderstanding.
I thought I was alone did not like it, finally found out actually many people (in my area) agreed with me (did not like it), so I was glad.
Many people agreed with me = I was not different.
I dont see this as an insult.


And now that you are explain that like this in last post i can see its not an insult!
Your first post whas little "odd" at first for some off us
So sadly there whas misunderstanding..you clear it up now..peace!:)
scapeplan - 22.01.2013 at 23:29  
Rating: 8 This is almost definitely going to be the best power metal album of 2013. It's probably their best since since SKII.
Guib - 23.01.2013 at 00:52  
Rating: 7
Written by scapeplan on 22.01.2013 at 23:29

This is almost definitely going to be the best power metal album of 2013. It's probably their best since since SKII.


I don't know man Scape, I found it kind of average... anyways its my opinion. I know everyone's all so hyped about it
but Idk, it did not make that much of an impact on me. Lol Its okay I guess. Could've been alot better than that.
PhantomLord21 - 23.01.2013 at 01:22  
 
Quote:
Written by Lustful Maid on 22.01.2013 at 15:36

....To be honest, my first language is English and I could barely make sense of what he was saying anyway, it was that poorly phrased..

I did not expect I had written in such a simple english, yet you still confused with what I had said. Furthermore claiming your first language is english.
I dont think yor problem is language but your intelligence level (Your misconception : First languguage is english = High intelligence)

That was not my misconception and never has been: I know many people who have lived their entire lives in the UK with intelligence that barely rivals that of a squirrel (and yes, that is where I was born and where I have lived my entire life: if I had any reason to say my first language wasn't English, I'd have made it) and I would argue myself as being only a bit above average intelligence, with a fondness for philosophical matters and the creative arts. However, if you read back what you said, you'll realise that, through your choice of words, you implied that you were better than those who liked the 7 Sinners album by saying they were abnormal and you were normal. That is a very serious insult. You've explained yourself since then, so I know that wasn't the intention of your comment, but, at the time, all I had to go on was what you'd said, which was a serious insult to those who liked the album.

Also, to explain the difficulty in understanding your last comment, I have to ask: have you ever tried reading something that is poorly phrased while sleep depraved? It's not difficult, but it does mean it can take even longer than usual to be sure you've understood it. In that particular instance, your poor phrasing, combined with this lack of sleep (less than 3 hours the previous night due to late night studying for a driving theory test), meant I had a little difficulty in being sure I'd completely understood you. Which, obviously, I did not. I'm now much more awake (thank you, energy drinks!) and I can see that, whilst you didn't phrase it so poorly that it was almost completely unintelligible (as I thought at the time), it was still poorly phrased enough for some serious potential for miscommunication, which did indeed happen. I apologise for being overly harsh in my previous comment, although I do recommend you take the time to double check what you are saying in the future to prevent misunderstandings like this from happening again.

Since I think we've derailed this thread far enough, I suggest we end this discussion here (if you need to respond to anything I've said, PM me) and let people talk about this album in peace.
Bizzaremifo - 23.01.2013 at 13:42  
Rating: 9 Wow. finaly album from Helloween i like after long time. It's fast, heavy, melodic and none song is boring (maybe just "Wanna be god" , but it's not a song in a true sense). Well, should i visit their live show after long long time?
Metal Invader - 23.01.2013 at 14:36  
Rating: 9
Written by Bizzaremifo on 23.01.2013 at 13:42

Wow. finaly album from Helloween i like after long time. It's fast, heavy, melodic and none song is boring (maybe just "Wanna be god" , but it's not a song in a true sense). Well, should i visit their live show after long long time?

Well i think you should if you have a chance..i was when they promote 7 sinners in my county and it was great..lots of fun!(i even have my own dvd from that show):)
Sadly they are not coming with GR this time but i think i will gow to neighbors cos i dont wanna miss that show with GR!

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