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Arizmenda - Without Circumference Nor Center



6.4 | 14 votes |
Release date: May 2011
Style: Psychedelic black metal

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Odes Of Prurience
01. Endless Hunger And Pain... The Need To Feed
02. Riders Of The Pale Horse... Crucifixion Of The Worm
03. Tear You Out From Within... Tear You Out With My Sin

Odes Of Satiation
04. Virginity Without Breath... Touch Me
05. Swallowing Seas Of Dirac... Smashing Vessels Spilling Thought
06. Embrace Beauty In Your Arms... And Slit Her Throat

Additional info
First press limited to 100 hand-numbered cassettes.
Second press limited to 200 hand-numbered cassettes.

Guest review by
Slayer666
Rating:
8.4
If you still haven't heard Arizmenda's debut, you need to drop whatever you're doing and go listen to it. Got a date with an Italian supermodel? Forget that bitch, go listen to the album. Took an arrow in the knee? Pull it out and rush off to get that record. House on fire? I don't care, just go listen to Within The Vacuum Of Infinity already. That said, Without Circumference Nor Center is less of a must-listen than its incredible predecessor. Somewhere in the process of transition between Arizmenda's full-on psychedelic black metal to a much more raw, lo-fi sound, a chunk of magic was lost: leaving us with an album which, albeit great in its own right, doesn't exactly live up to the predecessor.

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published 20.12.2011 | Comments (3)


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15.12.2011 - 06:51
Rating: 5
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
The only track I found even momentarily pleasing was the final one. Maybe because it signified the torture was finally coming to an end.

Bitchin' cover though.
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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15.12.2011 - 15:47
Rating: 8
Slayer666

Calling dibs on reviewing this too. >:[
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15.12.2011 - 19:24
Rating: 5
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Slayer666 on 15.12.2011 at 15:47
Calling dibs on reviewing this too. >:[

I might review the debut for fun to be honest. Won't be frontpage material, but it'll still be awesome.
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16.12.2011 - 19:01
Rating: 8
Slayer666

Written by Troy Killjoy on 15.12.2011 at 19:24

I might review the debut for fun to be honest. Won't be frontpage material, but it'll still be awesome.


I didn't have a creative block like this one in a loooong while, so the review might take some time to write... :/
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16.12.2011 - 20:50
Rating: 5
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Slayer666 on 16.12.2011 at 19:01
I didn't have a creative block like this one in a loooong while, so the review might take some time to write... :/

Meh, take your time. I know how it feels to run out of steam and describing a band like Arizmenda isn't an easy thing to do.

Well, it'd be easier for me to say why I like the debut as opposed to why I don't like this one. I can't seem to put my finger on it, aside from the "eerie vibe" thing.
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17.12.2011 - 00:20
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.12.2011 at 20:50

Meh, take your time. I know how it feels to run out of steam and describing a band like Arizmenda isn't an easy thing to do.

Well, it'd be easier for me to say why I like the debut as opposed to why I don't like this one. I can't seem to put my finger on it, aside from the "eerie vibe" thing.

I think this record doesn't have the three-dimensional sense of depth that the debut has. Everything is very foregrounded so it often sounds like a regular raw black metal album without the glorious overlapping, intermingling guitars that's present on the debut. I definitely don't like this in the way I do the debut. It's too rough around the edges and poorly mixed, but I think there's probably much to get from it given some effort (which to be honest I haven't done).

There's no doubt it's a very different record.
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17.12.2011 - 00:22
Rating: 5
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Guest on 17.12.2011 at 00:20
There's no doubt it's a very different record.

That's a much better explanation than I could have ever hoped to give.
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17.12.2011 - 00:24
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.12.2011 at 00:22

That's a much better explanation than I could have ever hoped to give.

Skipping back and forth between album songs really does reveal a lot about the differences. New one has more of an improv feel.
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21.07.2014 - 19:35
Rating: 6
mz

The production is too much to handle.
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21.07.2014 - 19:37
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by mz on 21.07.2014 at 19:35

The production is too much to handle.

It's not as good as the debut but I can certainly handle it. It's not an Omen Ex Simulacra clusterfuck
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21.07.2014 - 19:40
Rating: 6
mz

Written by Guest on 21.07.2014 at 19:37

It's not as good as the debut but I can certainly handle it. It's not an Omen Ex Simulacra clusterfuck

duno. I really hated the fact that I was eagerly waiting for the end of this record, and skipped the final parts of a two tracks because it was damn boring.
Also, I'm not sure if the songwriting it self is very good, regardless of the production.
The boned I got after checking their debut got ruined :'(
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21.07.2014 - 19:42
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Written by mz on 21.07.2014 at 19:40

duno. I really hated the fact that I was eagerly waiting for the end of this record, and skipped the final parts of a two tracks because it was damn boring.
Also, I'm not sure if the songwriting it self is very good, regardless of the production.
The boned I got after checking their debut got ruined :'(

Thankfully the new album sounds like it's going to improve on this record a lot. Maybe not quite as nice as the debut's production but definitely a step up from this.

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21.07.2014 - 19:44
Rating: 6
mz

Written by Guest on 21.07.2014 at 19:42


Thankfully the new album sounds like it's going to improve on this record a lot. Maybe not quite as nice as the debut's production but definitely a step up from this.

link


I am on the final minutes of that track now =p went to it after this record.I agree that it's great. Looking forward to the new album.
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21.07.2014 - 19:46
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Written by mz on 21.07.2014 at 19:44

I am on the final minutes of that track now =p went to it after this record.I agree that it's great. Looking forward to the new album.

Keep an eye out for the new Volahn too. Sounding good

http://crepusculonegro.bandcamp.com/track/najtir-ichik
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21.07.2014 - 19:50
Rating: 6
mz

Written by Guest on 21.07.2014 at 19:46

Keep an eye out for the new Volahn too. Sounding good

http://crepusculonegro.bandcamp.com/track/najtir-ichik

cheers. Will check it tonight
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21.07.2014 - 21:20
Rating: 3
Ilham
Giant robot
I already didn't go head over heels for the debut, you can imagine how hard it would be for me to finish it. Which I didn't.
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21.07.2014 - 22:23
Rating: 7
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
It's not the masterpice of the debut but I like this a lot as well. I might be influenced by the awesome artwork but whatevers...
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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23.11.2014 - 17:55
!J.O.O.E.!
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Cool, I finally found the other version of this that was supposed to exist. The "remastered Dismal Cursings" version apparently. A lot less noisy and abrasive but as a result it sounds weirdly bassy. Whether not it's better I can't be sure. Some of the detail seems to have been lost. I'd probably say it's better as a result overall though.

(fucksake, had the EQ on Winamp turned on fsr so sounded extra bassy. Still quite bassy though). This is the superior version for sure.
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02.11.2016 - 13:46
!J.O.O.E.!
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So the shirt with the artwork is back in stock: https://arizmenda.bandcamp.com/merch/without-circumferance-nor-center-short-sleeved-schizophrenia

Don't love the album but the artwork is soooo good.

Fuck the pound being absolutely worthless these days though, would cost more than usual to ship it to me. Might ask for it as an xmas present from someone.
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02.11.2016 - 13:54
Mik
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^i will so buy this shirt damn. Is there a t-shirt with the debut too?
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02.11.2016 - 13:55
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:54

^i will so buy this shirt damn. Is there a t-shirt with the debut too?

Yes https://arizmenda.bandcamp.com/merch/within-the-vacuum-of-infinity-short-sleeve-sin
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02.11.2016 - 13:58
Mik
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:55

Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:54

^i will so buy this shirt damn. Is there a t-shirt with the debut too?

Yes https://arizmenda.bandcamp.com/merch/within-the-vacuum-of-infinity-short-sleeve-sin

It looks beautiful
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02.11.2016 - 13:59
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:58

It looks beautiful

It really does, I want both
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02.11.2016 - 14:03
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 14:02

The poses with the gun is some of the cringiest shit lolol

Maybe it's an Evoker from Persona 3. Weird reference but what the hey.
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02.11.2016 - 14:05
Mik
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:59

Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 13:58

It looks beautiful

It really does, I want both

I think I will buy just both. Costs a bit, but its probably worth it.
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02.11.2016 - 14:06
!J.O.O.E.!
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 14:05

I think I will buy just both. Costs a bit, but its probably worth it.

Jealous. Post photos though when you get them
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02.11.2016 - 14:13
Mik
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Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 14:06

Written by Guest on 02.11.2016 at 14:05

I think I will buy just both. Costs a bit, but its probably worth it.

Jealous. Post photos though when you get them

Oh yeah, I will surely do. Hope that I have enough money for it though
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02.11.2016 - 18:27
Zap
Guest
I'd love one (or both) of those shirts but the shipping costs are about the same as the price of the fucking shirt. I'll wait for them to maybe one day come to Europe, hopefully.
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03.01.2017 - 22:23
3rdWorld
China was a neat
Just re-listened to this today and the first two songs are kinda ok but then it gets really muddy and muddled in all that thick bass. Would've been atleast a decent release if it wasn't for those. Sounds not so Arizmenda-ish for the bulk of it then.

Anyway, the cassette version of this album is epic and the artwork is beyond rad. Just can't stop looking at it. Even the clown-like thing in the inner sleeve is beyond words.



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26.04.2020 - 11:56
LuciferOfGayness
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Relistened to this today and I used to agree what has been said in this thread. I changed my mind a bit - this demands a bit more from the listener than the debut and Stillbirth, but now I do think that this is as good as those. Its more demented and and lacks some of those wow riffs that the other albums has but just the originality of the style here and the effort to put this lunacy on tape makes it an interesting album. I get the feeling that side a and side b are recording from different times as there is big change in style. Side a is more demented and b is slkightly more energetic. That change in style is the biggest negative on this album imo.

I dont know how they did it but it sounds like they recorded the inner life of some mental patient inside an institution.
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