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Release date: 13 September 2013
Style: Technical death metal, Avantgarde metal

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8.1 | 103 votes

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01. Odium
02. Vermis
03. Clutching Revulsion
04. Weight Of Emptiness
05. Confronting Entropy
06. Fall To Opprobrium
07. The Imperious Weak
08. Cessation
09. Await Rescission

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Lyrics (9)


Line-up
Michael Hoggard - guitars
Jamie Saint Merat - drums
Paul Kelland - bass, vocals


Additional info
Release dates
September 13: Germany/Benelux
September 16: UK/World
September 17: USA

Staff review by
Mr. Doctor

Rating:
9.5
I always wondered what the meaning of art was. As in, what is the main goal for the artist(s)? What would be the greatest achievement? If you ask yours truly, the main goal would be to make something greater than the creator(s) and spectators, a grand monument with such a force that it can stand proud and imposing against anything around it. Ulcerate did just that. Again.

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published 19.09.2013 | Comments (14)

Staff pick by
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10.09.2013 Ulcerate practically need no introduction on this site anymore. They are endeared with the respect and awe of almost everyone that's heard them. If you haven't yet heard them I bet you're well curious about them now, eh?



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Monolithic - 26.09.2013 at 12:39  
Rating: 9 Well, good thing I didn't stay away from Ulcerate. Loved their 2011 album, too.
3rdWorld - 04.10.2013 at 10:05  
  Why the generic band logo instead of the old one which was amazing? (Following in the same vein as Fleshgod Apocalypse).

Well nothing can be perfect it seems.
Rulatore - 19.10.2013 at 06:43  
Rating: 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axw0Z44zdv4

Their drummer must be an alien, jesus.
InnerSelf - 27.10.2013 at 14:48  
Rating: 9
Written by Rulatore on 19.10.2013 at 06:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axw0Z44zdv4

Their drummer must be an alien, jesus.

It's not just the speed, but the mentally challenging tempo/time-signature changes. One of the best drummers alive atm!
deadone - 13.11.2013 at 07:43  
Rating: 4 Meh quite a tedious listen.
mz - 24.11.2013 at 11:38  
Rating: 9 It's really hard to describe but I've been convinced that this album has a little bad production. Not a big problem though
Troy Killjoy - 24.11.2013 at 20:39  
 
Written by mz on 24.11.2013 at 11:38
bad production

You and I appear to have different opinions when it comes to production, I think it suits the sound perfectly.
Mr. Doctor - 24.11.2013 at 20:41  
Rating: 9 Zero problems from this end.
Lit. - 25.11.2013 at 03:30  
  Ditto.
Unhealer - 25.11.2013 at 04:35  
Rating: 8 Phew, it happened again. Didn't like this at the first listens but something just forced me to keep trying, I'm really enjoying this now.
mz - 25.11.2013 at 13:27  
Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2013 at 20:39

You and I appear to have different opinions when it comes to production, I think it suits the sound perfectly.

production is not a big problem here for me. I just wished it was a little, duno, better.
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.11.2013 at 13:55  
 
Written by mz on 25.11.2013 at 13:27

I just wished it was a little, duno, better.


Define what would be better for you? What aspect of the current production?
Fritillaria - 25.11.2013 at 15:29  
Rating: 7
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2013 at 13:55

Written by mz on 25.11.2013 at 13:27

I just wished it was a little, duno, better.


Define what would be better for you? What aspect of the current production?


but he said before that he didn't know, just better.
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.11.2013 at 15:48  
  What is 'just better'? Just better as such does not mean anything at all. If he thinks it could be better he must have an idea what aspect could be better according to him?
The word better as such is devoid of any meaning when it comes to production. It could mean 'clearewr' sound, fuller sound, vocals more to the foreground or less clear sound, thinner sound vocals to the backgroundd. Etc etc.
Fritillaria - 25.11.2013 at 15:50  
Rating: 7
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2013 at 15:48

What is 'just better'? Just better as such does not mean anything at all. If he thinks it could be better he must have an idea what aspect could be better according to him?
The word better as such is devoid of any meaning when it comes to production. It could mean 'clearewr' sound, fuller sound, vocals more to the foreground or less clear sound, thinner sound vocals to the backgroundd. Etc etc.


OK, at this point you're quite right.
mz - 25.11.2013 at 15:57  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2013 at 13:55

Define what would be better for you? What aspect of the current production?


Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.11.2013 at 15:48

What is 'just better'? Just better as such does not mean anything at all. If he thinks it could be better he must have an idea what aspect could be better according to him?
The word better as such is devoid of any meaning when it comes to production. It could mean 'clearewr' sound, fuller sound, vocals more to the foreground or less clear sound, thinner sound vocals to the backgroundd. Etc etc.


I think this is sounds rather thin. For lack of better word, I might also call this even sharp and artificial sounding at points. Slightly thicker production more akin to regular forms of DM would probably do better for me. Before posting this reply, I listened to some songs from their last three albums and compared to TDoA and EIF, vermis sounds a little badly produced.
I agree that "better production" does not have a single, definitive definition and would vary from album to album.
Now, excuse the lack of better description for what would be a "better production" for this album. I even could not properly explain that in Persian.
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.11.2013 at 16:01  
  Imo changing the sound as to how you describe it would mean a worse production for me. Then it would lose its individuality and start to sound quite run of the mill dm.
mz - 25.11.2013 at 16:07  
Rating: 9 Vermis is unique in DM spectrum prominently because of its songwriting and not production IMO.
Troy Killjoy - 25.11.2013 at 16:10  
  How can anyone call this thin? If anything, this is one of the most dense death metal albums of the year. Production-wise I found it very similar to Abyssal's latest. Both have a sort of cavernous intensity about them, and at times bludgeon the listener with a wall of sound.
mz - 25.11.2013 at 16:47  
Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2013 at 16:10

How can anyone call this thin? If anything, this is one of the most dense death metal albums of the year. Production-wise I found it very similar to Abyssal's latest. Both have a sort of cavernous intensity about them, and at times bludgeon the listener with a wall of sound.


I'm not sure that this is one of the most dense DM albums of year since I have heard only a few 2013 metal records but no doubt that this is dense. I call its production thin because it feels thin for the songwriting. IMO production reduces its density.
As I said on multiple occasions, I really love vermis. Problem is that production deviates from perfection more than songwriting, performance etc.
MechanisT - 25.11.2013 at 17:05  
  An Antediluvian-ish or a Flourishing-esque thick production is exactly what I don't want for Ulcerate. It would totally drown their sound in excessive murkiness. The wall of dissonance they generate is more than adequate and the production on this one does nothing but accentuate and compliment it in its entirety.
Masonics - 12.01.2014 at 10:51  
Rating: 7 If the Song lengths were a bit shorter, this would easily be a high 9 for me. The murky atmosphere they create is amazing regardless.
deadone - 13.01.2014 at 01:12  
Rating: 4
Written by mz on 25.11.2013 at 16:07

Vermis is unique in DM spectrum prominently because of its songwriting and not production IMO.



Don't hear much song writing here or at least good song writing.

It's very repetitive in a bad way.

You can do DM with good song writing but IMO this isn't an example of it.
mz - 13.01.2014 at 09:12  
Rating: 9
Written by deadone on 13.01.2014 at 01:12

Don't hear much song writing here or at least good song writing.

It's very repetitive in a bad way.

You can do DM with good song writing but IMO this isn't an example of it.


Then we just should disagree. Ulcerate is my favorite death metal band and this albums is very great.
Lit. - 18.01.2014 at 21:48  
 
Written by Masonics on 12.01.2014 at 10:51

If the Song lengths were a bit shorter, this would easily be a high 9 for me. The murky atmosphere they create is amazing regardless.

In comparison to The Destroyer Of All? Because that was one of the things that kept the album from being best of 2011 for me. The songs are shorter, there're just more of them.

I also like the colossal atmosphere and song-writing, and love the production that's so thick you could beat someone to death with it.
Masonics - 19.01.2014 at 11:00  
Rating: 7
Written by Lit. on 18.01.2014 at 21:48

Written by Masonics on 12.01.2014 at 10:51

If the Song lengths were a bit shorter, this would easily be a high 9 for me. The murky atmosphere they create is amazing regardless.

In comparison to The Destroyer Of All? Because that was one of the things that kept the album from being best of 2011 for me. The songs are shorter, there're just more of them.

I also like the colossal atmosphere and song-writing, and love the production that's so thick you could beat someone to death with it.


Yeap thats it pretty much and the same reason why Vermis just falls short in that regard.

I find to able to digest the dissonant song structures better listening to the songs not all at once. Like 2-3 songs in one listen you can pick up on the songs better.
mz - 19.01.2014 at 11:14  
Rating: 9 As much as it sounds pretentious, I wished vermis and TDoA were twice is length. Most of the time, I go for an 6 hour+ ulcerate experience in a row and thus, wouldn't have problem listening to a 100 minutes album by them.
InnerSelf - 20.01.2014 at 19:06  
Rating: 9 The best thing I ever did this year was saving this album to when I had not much of new stuff stuff to go through and I had the time to really savor it.
Oh. My. God.
Chobo_jokeR - 25.01.2014 at 22:36  
Rating: 9
Written by InnerSelf on 20.01.2014 at 19:06

The best thing I ever did this year was saving this album to when I had not much of new stuff stuff to go through and I had the time to really savor it.
Oh. My. God.


Good to see it on the top of your list.

Cheers haha.
InnerSelf - 01.02.2014 at 20:45  
Rating: 9
Written by Chobo_jokeR on 25.01.2014 at 22:36

Good to see it on the top of your list.

And the easiest vote casted on the awards.
Fritillaria - 07.03.2014 at 11:44  
Rating: 7 This record sounds so strange to me, it's totally a kind of new thing for my ears, it was a bit hard for me to digest this kind of sound, but generally speaking it's a good attempt. Weight of Emptiness is the highlight in my opinion.

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