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Release date: 2000
Style: Death metal

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01. Higher Coward
02. Father You're Not A Father
03. Furthest From The Truth
04. Fall From A High Place
05. Unpardonable Sin
06. Lost Passion
07. Put My Hand In The Fire
08. Close To A World Below

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Staff review by
Herzebeth

Rating:
9.7
The good old Immolation, you can't loose with this band if you are into Extreme Metal, there is a question that most Immolation fans can't answer (or don't want to answer, or don't even care), Is Unholy Cult better than Close To A World Below? Well I'll do my best to answer this question right now.

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published 13.02.2005 | Comments (4)

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Dangerboner - 08.02.2010 at 13:09  
Rating: 9 This album is more brutal than giving a poodle a sex change. Furthest From The Truth is my fav
Illog1cal - 25.05.2012 at 19:54  
  I really like the lurching and discordant guitar parts. Excellent album, definitely an album you must have even if you are not really a fan of Immolation.
esw1026 - 27.05.2012 at 21:57  
Rating: 9 Very very close to perfection
deadone - 21.03.2014 at 02:53  
Rating: 6 Like most things Immolation I've always found this one to be inconsistent. There are some moments of greatness and then completely generic and overdone Death Metal moments or what sounds like half formed ideas.

I always think that if you scraped together their entire discography and then sifted through it you'd get get 2 phenomenal albums.

I think these guys only ever truly did it well on Harnessing Ruin
Lit. - 21.03.2014 at 03:21  
  ^ Pffffffhahaha.

Immolation are not a band I'd call inconsistent, and this album is certainly not. This is one brutal death metal album.
Troy Killjoy - 22.03.2014 at 01:49  
  I actually think this is one of the most consistent death metal albums out there, made by one of the most consistent death metal bands.
deadone - 22.03.2014 at 02:05  
Rating: 6
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.03.2014 at 01:49

I actually think this is one of the most consistent death metal albums out there, made by one of the most consistent death metal bands.



My problem with Immolation is that the albums always start off well but then midway lose steam and either start repeating ideas or just go all generic. They also often disrupt the flow of a song with disjointed riff changes

Majesty and Decay is a great example of this. It starts off like it's going to be the greatest DM album of all time and then runs out of steam and goes all generic Immolation.

Harnessing Ruin is the only one where think they actually pulled it off fro start to finish.


The new one is meh.
Lit. - 22.03.2014 at 03:21  
  That's as backwards an opinion if I've ever seen one. Harnessing Ruin is definitely their worse, even considering how consistent the band is. It's totally average, even Kingdom of Conspiracy is better by miles. This album (and the ones before it) are easily Immolation's best and prime death metal albums.
Mr. Doctor - 22.03.2014 at 16:34  
Rating: 8 The album is fantastic from start to finish... Specially the ending. What a finale.
LeKiwi - 30.06.2014 at 13:57  
Rating: 9 Jesus. Christ. (irony intended). Why did I put off listening to this for so long. Although this hardly sounds like straight forward death metal now, does it?
Ozman - 30.06.2014 at 14:27  
 
Written by LeKiwi on 30.06.2014 at 13:57

Jesus. Christ. (irony intended). Why did I put off listening to this for so long. Although this hardly sounds like straight forward death metal now, does it?


How isn't this straight forward death metal?
LeKiwi - 30.06.2014 at 14:45  
Rating: 9
Written by Ozman on 30.06.2014 at 14:27

How isn't this straight forward death metal?

Doesn't sound like typical death metal at all...sounds like a relaxed version of Ulcerate. Those riffs...they're so...sophisticated.

Listen (to everyone), I'm not trying to fuel another another genre argument...That's just what I'm hearing from this album.
Ozman - 30.06.2014 at 14:55  
 
Written by LeKiwi on 30.06.2014 at 14:45

Written by Ozman on 30.06.2014 at 14:27

How isn't this straight forward death metal?

Doesn't sound like typical death metal at all...sounds like a relaxed version of Ulcerate. Those riffs...they're so...sophisticated.

Listen (to everyone), I'm not trying to fuel another another genre argument...That's just what I'm hearing from this album.


What Immolation plays is straight forward old school death metal. Slow and relaxed dm.
If you think this isn't straight forward dm you're probably extremely unfamiliar with the osdm sound.
LeKiwi - 30.06.2014 at 14:56  
Rating: 9
Written by Ozman on 30.06.2014 at 14:55

What Immolation plays is straight forward old school death metal. Slow and relaxed dm.
If you think this isn't straight forward dm you're probably extremely unfamiliar with the osdm sound.

Well, I really liked this - can you recommend me any similar bands?
LeKiwi - 01.07.2014 at 15:55  
Rating: 9
Written by Ozman on 30.06.2014 at 14:55

What Immolation plays is straight forward old school death metal. Slow and relaxed dm.
If you think this isn't straight forward dm you're probably extremely unfamiliar with the osdm sound.

I found this thread on OSDM and listened to all the bands you cited as classified under that style:
Written by Ozman on 12.03.2011 at 16:36

Try out Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma (sounds a lot like Morbid Angel when you play their vinyl on 45rpm instead of 33rpm ), Cruciamentum, Miasmal, Stench Of Decay, Anatomia (very very Autopsy like) to name but a few


I also had a listen to some other OSDM bands like Entrails and old Entombed. There seems to be an conspicuous difference between this and OSDM.

I'll admit that after to listening to Dead Congregation's 2008 output, I heard some similarities, but then again, that doesn't sound like OSDM either
Ozman - 01.07.2014 at 15:59  
 
Written by LeKiwi on 01.07.2014 at 15:55

Written by Ozman on 30.06.2014 at 14:55

What Immolation plays is straight forward old school death metal. Slow and relaxed dm.
If you think this isn't straight forward dm you're probably extremely unfamiliar with the osdm sound.

I found this thread on OSDM and listened to all the bands you cited as classified under that style:
Written by Ozman on 12.03.2011 at 16:36

Try out Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma (sounds a lot like Morbid Angel when you play their vinyl on 45rpm instead of 33rpm ), Cruciamentum, Miasmal, Stench Of Decay, Anatomia (very very Autopsy like) to name but a few


I also had a listen to some other OSDM bands like Entrails and old Entombed. There seems to be an conspicuous difference between this and OSDM.

I'll admit that after to listening to Dead Congregation's 2008 output, I heard some similarities, but then again, that doesn't sound like OSDM either


There's a difference between US osdm and Swedish osdm and Finnish osdm.
Especially due to the fact that Swedish osdm primarily gets their guitar sound from the Boss HM2 pedal. Whereas that one isn't used by the US osdm bands.
LeKiwi - 01.07.2014 at 16:00  
Rating: 9
Written by Ozman on 01.07.2014 at 15:59

There's a difference between US osdm and Swedish osdm and Finnish osdm.
Especially due to the fact that Swedish osdm primarily gets their guitar sound from the Boss HM2 pedal. Whereas that one isn't used by the US osdm bands.

I see...well could you share some US OSDM? Like I said, I love the sound and want some more
Ozman - 01.07.2014 at 16:08  
  Incantation, though even slower.
!J.O.O.E.! - 01.07.2014 at 16:12  
Rating: 7
Written by LeKiwi on 01.07.2014 at 16:00

I see...well could you share some US OSDM? Like I said, I love the sound and want some more

Check out Dark Descent Records and Invictus Productions bandcamps. Plenty of great OSDM on those. There's another great label for it too but I can't remember it at then moment.
Ozman - 01.07.2014 at 16:22  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 01.07.2014 at 16:12

Written by LeKiwi on 01.07.2014 at 16:00

I see...well could you share some US OSDM? Like I said, I love the sound and want some more

Check out Dark Descent Records and Invictus Productions bandcamps. Plenty of great OSDM on those. There's another great label for it too but I can't remember it at then moment.


Nuclear War Now? Nuclear Winter? Iron Bonehead? Sepuchral Voice?
Ozman - 01.07.2014 at 16:25  
  Memnto Mori si a good label as is Vic Records and both mostly for re-releases. Same goes for The Crypt/Dark Symphonies for re-releases.
LeKiwi - 01.07.2014 at 18:02  
Rating: 9 So, I listened to a bunch of new OSDM and I still can't find anything labelled as that style which sounds remotely like this. This sounds closer to Ulcerate, Mitochondrion, etc.
Troy Killjoy - 01.07.2014 at 18:44  
  I think due to the production this album especially stands out as more smothering than the typical Immolation album, which is also probably why it's typically regarded as one of their best - if not the best album in their discography. I personally don't think it has the same kind of catacomb-like atmosphere of a Mitochondrion per se, but I do agree that it isn't your typical old school death metal album.
!J.O.O.E.! - 01.07.2014 at 19:36  
Rating: 7
Written by Ozman on 01.07.2014 at 16:22

Nuclear War Now? Nuclear Winter? Iron Bonehead? Sepuchral Voice?

Nuclear War Now was the one I was thinking of.
LeKiwi - 01.07.2014 at 20:46  
Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 01.07.2014 at 18:44

I personally don't think it has the same kind of catacomb-like atmosphere of a Mitochondrion per se, but I do agree that it isn't your typical old school death metal album.

Yeah, I should have been been clearer. I just meant that the guitar riffing style is very similar, despite that Mitochondrion can get a bit avant-garde with that sometimes.
God Buster 鬼 - 17.12.2014 at 08:42  
 
Written by deadone on 22.03.2014 at 02:05

Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.03.2014 at 01:49

I actually think this is one of the most consistent death metal albums out there, made by one of the most consistent death metal bands.



My problem with Immolation is that the albums always start off well but then midway lose steam and either start repeating ideas or just go all generic. They also often disrupt the flow of a song with disjointed riff changes

Majesty and Decay is a great example of this. It starts off like it's going to be the greatest DM album of all time and then runs out of steam and goes all generic Immolation.

Harnessing Ruin is the only one where think they actually pulled it off fro start to finish.


The new one is meh.

The problem is Death Metal is always not easy to listen especially pure death (probably that's why Morbid Angel added thrash to Altar of Madness for the sales).

Immolation is a very lyric-orientated band, they're different from other bands, they usually write lyrics before melodies. If you don't pay attention to their lyrics you don't get the whole composition. That's why a lot of listeners found their albums very inconsistant, actually they missed the direction.
Fearmeister - 17.12.2014 at 20:57  
Rating: 9 Just when I thought he couldn't get any stupider...
Alex Fenger - 18.12.2014 at 00:11  
Rating: 7
Written by Fearmeister on 17.12.2014 at 20:57

Just when I thought he couldn't get any stupider...

I have no clue where he pulls that shit from. As far as I know, Immolation don't have some predetermined philosophy for coming up with lyrics before song-writing.
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.12.2014 at 00:14  
Rating: 7
Written by Alex Fenger on 18.12.2014 at 00:11

I have no clue where he pulls that shit from. As far as I know, Immolation don't have some predetermined philosophy for coming up with lyrics before song-writing.

From an interview with the band's founding member:

Quote:
"Does an Immolation song start with a riff, a signature bleeding lead, or a blasphemous lyric - or does it change from album to album or even song to song? Also, is the entire band involved in the writing process, or can that vary, too?

Usually I will write the music first -- come up with a basic arrangement. Then we work on it together until the arrangement is solid. After that is where the lyrics come in -- you get the feeling from the song and pretty much match it up with some concepts you may have. Each song has a particular feel that lends itself to a certain subject matter. It changes from time to time, though."
Alex Fenger - 18.12.2014 at 00:21  
Rating: 7
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.12.2014 at 00:14

From an interview with the band's founding member:

Ah so it's basically the exact opposite of what GodBuster said... good to know!
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.12.2014 at 00:23  
Rating: 7
Written by Alex Fenger on 18.12.2014 at 00:21

Ah so it's basically the exact opposite of what GodBuster said... good to know!

Fearmeister - 18.12.2014 at 00:58  
Rating: 9 I more had a problem with this quote.

Quote:
The problem is Death Metal is always not easy to listen especially pure death (probably that's why Morbid Angel added thrash to Altar of Madness for the sales).
God Buster 鬼 - 18.12.2014 at 10:34  
 
Written by Alex Fenger on 18.12.2014 at 00:21

Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.12.2014 at 00:14

From an interview with the band's founding member:

Ah so it's basically the exact opposite of what GodBuster said... good to know!

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.12.2014 at 11:15  
Rating: 7
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 10:34

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.

No, you were just talking shit again. Speaking factually when you had no possession of any facts. Pretty standard for you. You have no credibility any more.
God Buster 鬼 - 18.12.2014 at 11:23  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.12.2014 at 11:15

Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 10:34

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.

No, you were just talking shit again. Speaking factually when you had no possession of any facts. Pretty standard for you. You have no credibility any more.

This is only a forum for disccusion, not reporting something.

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.12.2014 at 11:33  
Rating: 7
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 11:23

This is only a forum for disccusion, not reporting something.

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive

When you say that a band writes the lyrics before the music this is not speculation; it's either pure guesswork or proven fact. There can either be one right answer or a wrong one, and you got it flat out wrong which shows that you were lying. You can try to wriggle out of it if you like, like you usually do, but that won't save you from the fact you "report" things as though actual facts on a regular basis when you are clearly making them up.
God Buster 鬼 - 18.12.2014 at 11:42  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.12.2014 at 11:33

Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 11:23

This is only a forum for disccusion, not reporting something.

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive

...it's either pure guesswork or proven fact. There can either be one right answer or a wrong one...

It's my pure guesswork, it could be wrong (and it could be right)
You didn't ask that's why your assumptions were always not valid
!J.O.O.E.! - 18.12.2014 at 11:48  
Rating: 7
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 11:42

It's my pure guesswork, it could be wrong (and it could be right)
You didn't ask that's why your assumptions were always not valid

Maybe stop presenting factual statements as part of your arguments then. Maybe do the research before embarrassing yourself. Just a thought.
God Buster 鬼 - 19.12.2014 at 07:41  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 18.12.2014 at 11:48

Written by God Buster 鬼 on 18.12.2014 at 11:42

It's my pure guesswork, it could be wrong (and it could be right)
You didn't ask that's why your assumptions were always not valid

Maybe stop presenting factual statements as part of your arguments then. Maybe do the research before embarrassing yourself. Just a thought.

I don't find expressing personal opinion is embarassing as I know music composition far more better than you.
You don't know art direction in music, you're just a metal listener that's all.

If you don't agree just leave it !
I find you have too much free time to keep on argueing with people here...do you need to work ? what is your job (occupation) actually ? A student ?
!J.O.O.E.! - 19.12.2014 at 14:12  
Rating: 7
Written by God Buster 鬼 on 19.12.2014 at 07:41

I don't find expressing personal opinion is embarassing as I know music composition far more better than you.
You don't know art direction in music, you're just a metal listener that's all.

Once again, going into a discussion with 13% of the facts, 87% making-it-up-as-you-go-along: http://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=3593

Come back when you have an actual leg to stand on. I'll be quite happy to have a real debate with you when it's not based on bald-faced lies and ill-educated nonsense on your part.
Dima - 20.12.2014 at 01:33  
  Nup go home you're a plonker as your fellow brits would say.
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.12.2014 at 01:36  
Rating: 7 Aye, that we would.


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