Wintersun - The Forest Seasons



8 | 278 votes |
Release date: 21 July 2017
Style: Extreme power metal

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01. Awaken From The Dark Slumber (Spring)
02. The Forest That Weeps (Summer)
03. Eternal Darkness (Autumn)
04. Loneliness (Winter)
05. Loneliness (Winter) [acoustic version] [Digibook bonus]

Line-up
Jari Mäenpää - vocals, guitars, drums, bass, synthesizers, samples, orchestrations
Teemu Mäntysaari - choirs, additional vocals
Jukka Koskinen - choirs, additional vocals

Additional musicians:
Kasper Mårtenson - choirs
Jesper Anastasiadis - choirs
Aleksi Sihvonen - choirs
Daniel Freyberg - choirs
Mikko Huvinen - choirs
Jussi Wickström - choirs
Perttu Vänskä - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Mathias Nygård - choirs
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Mikko Salovaara - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Mitja Harvilahti - choirs

Additional info
Produced, written and arranged by Jari Mäenpää.
Available as:
  • Standard CD
  • Digibook (including instrumental CD)
  • 2LP (vinyl in gatefold) in different colors
  • CD Boxset (including instrumental and "Live At Tuska 2013" CDs)
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    19.08.2017 - 20:00
    Rating: 8
    Hooman
    I didn't like the album and wanted to give it a generous 6 honestly, but when i listened to the instrumental version of the first two tracks, I really enjoyed and changed my generous 6 to a generous 8.
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    19.08.2017 - 22:07
    Rating: 10
    MeatWolf
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    And the same ppl who argued that got infinetly upset when it actually worked out.

    Certainly the case. They're so smart and right but 450k goes to someone else. That's what hurts the most.

    Also look at how someone worked out something remotely resembling free market by contacting the fans directly and a shitstorm arose instantly. Because what would the big asses do if listeners can fund what they like directly instead of getting what they're given?

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    other bands don't need supercomputers to master the music

    I read something about the mixing of Endless Forms More Beautiful taking several months because it was so complex! It contained 200 tracks per song and the epic containing 630. Oh my! Definitely should have done that in the bedroom. Once costed around 250k to make and DPP costed around 500k, with the real orchestra but the engineer cut was definitely not something NB would be ready to give Wintersun. How do you think, how much would an album with 1 song out of 7 containing over 1500 tracks cost to mix?
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    20.08.2017 - 04:01
    Marcel Hubregtse
    Grumpy Old Fuck
    Written by MeatWolf on 19.08.2017 at 22:07


    Quote:
    other bands don't need supercomputers to master the music

    I read something about the mixing of Endless Forms More Beautiful taking several months because it was so complex! It contained 200 tracks per song and the epic containing 630. Oh my! Definitely should have done that in the bedroom. Once costed around 250k to make and DPP costed around 500k, with the real orchestra but the engineer cut was definitely not something NB would be ready to give Wintersun. How do you think, how much would an album with 1 song out of 7 containing over 1500 tracks cost to mix?


    you believe that bullshit about the number of tracks? if so you're one of the most gullible people I have ever come across.
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    20.08.2017 - 09:53
    Rating: 10
    MeatWolf
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    you believe that bullshit about the number of tracks? if so you're one of the most gullible people I have ever come across.

    I have ears to hear that myself. Check the orchestration isolated track for Sons of Winter and Stars. There are tons of everything playing almost every second. Jari showed how they sounded separately, youtube video Sons of Winter and Stars Project Demonstration.
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    21.08.2017 - 19:26
    Rating: 8
    Toxik
    Well I actualy saw somewhere that Wintersun were of the bands that received the most money from Nuclear Blast but I'm not sure if it's true or not... Anyway thank you guys
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    21.08.2017 - 23:35
    Rating: 8
    Toxik
    Back to the album, I think that what made me like this so much was because it was my first Wintersun exposure (imo there is a big lack of the "epic" feeling from Time 1). IMO Awaken From The Dark Slumber is the best song on the album (the build-up to the verses is really cool and the chorus is amazing), The Forest That Weeps repeats a litle too much draggin the song down a bit, Eternal Darkness can get a bit annoying 'till half of the song due to the blast beats but picks up after and Loneliness have the best vocals in the whole album and suits really well and it's very emotional. So despite all the flaws I mentioned, the album flows really nicely.
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    25.08.2017 - 13:34
    qlacs
    "The Quaker"
    Written by MeatWolf on 20.08.2017 at 09:53

    Quote:
    you believe that bullshit about the number of tracks? if so you're one of the most gullible people I have ever come across.

    I have ears to hear that myself. Check the orchestration isolated track for Sons of Winter and Stars. There are tons of everything playing almost every second. Jari showed how they sounded separately, youtube video Sons of Winter and Stars Project Demonstration.

    Most people will never hear the immense depth goes into even the most prolific (non-sampled) pop song, let alone the wide range of a symphonic orchestra. You need really good headphones or sound system and a well treated room. And ears.

    On the other hand, very good mixing can be done without high-end equipment. Sometimes less is more. And Jari fails to create a punchy wall of sound like Devin Townsend for example, I don't feel justified throwing this many sh*t into the music.
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    26.08.2017 - 07:28
    Rating: 8
    Until the End
    On 'Spring', from 6:10 onward you can definitely tell Jari's just taking the piss out of Ensiferum. He hasn't even put in full effort yet he's still created a better song than anything on the last 3 Ensiferum albums.
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    26.08.2017 - 08:33
    Boxcar Willy
    yr a kook
    Written by MeatWolf on 19.08.2017 at 22:07

    It contained 200 tracks per song and the epic containing 630.

    Ya fucking right.
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    26.08.2017 - 15:57
    Rating: 10
    MeatWolf
    Quote:
    You need really good headphones or sound system and a well treated room. And ears.

    You can't hear every instrument separately but you're not supposed to. You can hear the overall picture and the harmony created with all of those. It definitely differs from anything I've heard in any symphonic metal album.

    Devin's Deconstruction featured a full-time orchestra. He has pretty different budgets compared to WS.
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    03.09.2017 - 16:59
    stewsandgoulash
    This album is alright. It feels just thrown together though. The musical ability is there, but the composition is lacking in my opinion.
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    16.09.2017 - 13:05
    Rating: 9
    Litvin
    Written by bddidier on 24.07.2017 at 18:05

    Written by Litvin on 21.07.2017 at 15:15

    Ahhh Jari could of done better...I believe he spend more time on marketing that on actually writing the album


    And still you gave it a 9 ...

    Yeah, otherwise I would give it a 10
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    17.09.2017 - 05:55
    Rating: 7
    bddidier
    Written by Litvin on 16.09.2017 at 13:05

    Written by bddidier on 24.07.2017 at 18:05

    Written by Litvin on 21.07.2017 at 15:15

    Ahhh Jari could of done better...I believe he spend more time on marketing that on actually writing the album


    And still you gave it a 9 ...

    Yeah, otherwise I would give it a 10

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    18.10.2017 - 09:20
    Rating: 7
    berba_
    After few spins it's getting stronger and stronger every time I hear it.
    Definitely worth spending some extra hours with it.
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    21.10.2017 - 09:27
    Rating: 9
    Heavy Heathen
    *Some of this review is guitar-based.*

    One thing I've noticed Wintersun doing is scaling back on the guitar parts while having most of the melodies be done by vocals and orchestrations. While the debut album was guitar heavy alongside Jari's screaming vocals and blast beats, Time I created a trend of using guitar only in a rhythmic or melodic context. The guitar parts aren't necessarily a cakewalk, but they do have simplicity over the first album. Listening to "Battle Against Time" or "Starchild" sounds much different than listening to 'Sons of Winter and Stars" or "Land of Snow and Sorrow".

    Part of it has to do with the pacing of the albums. The debut album isn't conceptual. It's mostly fragments of ideas regarding time, death, creation and the universe that continue to persist throughout Wintersun's small discography.

    Now we come to The Forest Seasons. This album is even more primitive than both the self-titled and Time I by several walks through the forest (see what I did there?). There guitars are more prominent than on Time I, but they're extremely muddy in the mix and it is often difficult to pick out many of the rhythms note for note without a great pair of headphones. Exceptions to this include the guitar soloish thingy in the middle of "The Forest that Weeps" and "Eternal Darkness".

    It's much more primitive with more of a focus on a black metal aesthetic, although it isn't a black metal album. It seems to have certain elements of it. Examples of this include the opening riff on "Awaken from the Dark Slumber" and "Eternal Darkness". All in all, the guitar work appears to have remained similarly consequential as Time I, where it doesn't have a lot of lead work, but enough to make a guitarist happy.

    As I stated above, the albums are becoming more conceptual in nature. This aligns with the band's progression in their discography, where they are taking ideas such as time and death from the self-titled album and morphing them into a single album all their own. Time I was about nonother then time and how it fades away from us. In The Forest Seasons, time is scene as a progressive concept, taking place within a year of natural decay surrounding a vague character of loneliness and a transcendental battle against humans, where (and I hope I word this right) themes about the violent awakening of the forest combine alongside the cycle of being human.

    With The Forest Seasons, we have an album that isn't perfect, but also isn't bad. It's actually really good. There's not a lot of crazy fast guitar work besides the guitar solo in "Eternal Darkness", but there is progression in the band in terms of concept and songwriting.
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