14:09 - Zaphod Ok, bad example, but you get the point. Metalcore has metal in it, so it's metal for me.
14:07 - Zaphod Yeah and Ensiferum is metal mixed with Finnish folk music, both genres have metal in them.
14:00 - Hex_Omega Well Metalcore is Metal mixed with Hardcore. It is something different, theoretically.
13:58 - Hex_Omega Nu Metal bands can be controversial for some metalheads and thats why I am not surprised that they don't have Slipknot on their site. However their music is metal.
13:56 - Zaphod Yeah, that's what I meant with 'true metal' (not that I agree with them, for the record) It confuses me how some people don't consider metalcore metal. Sure, you might not like it, but that doesn't mean it's not metal.
This band's profile is 'invisible', meaning that it's much less prominent on the site - either because it's incomplete, or maybe doesn't entirely fit MS format.
The band made headlines due to YouTube user Sturmgeist89 (Pekka-Eric Auvinen) - who was responsible for school shootings - bearing the same name as the band. Tabloids tried connecting the shootings to Auvinen's screen name and the band's music. Sturmgiest front man Cornelius Jakhelln later composed "Sturmgeist_89" on the 2009 album Manifesto Futurista, with the chorus: "Sturmgeist_89 why did you do it?"