Polskie Radio is reporting that Poland's Supreme Court has ruled that Behemoth's frontman Adam "Nergal" Darski, may have committed a crime when he called the Catholic Church "the most murderous cult on the planet" during the band's September 2007 performance in Gdynia, Poland, and tore up a copy of the Bible calling it "a book full of lies."

The court was examining the matter in relation to an appeal against the 2011 aquittal of Nergal. The maximum penalty in Poland for offending religious sensibilities is a two-year prison sentence. The case will now be examined by a district court in Gdansk.

Consequently, a person may be found guilty of offending religious sensibilities even if the defendant had not "directly" intended to do so.

During the 2011 hearing, Darski's lawyers had argued successively that the 2007 concert was for a closed group of fans who had not been offended by the musician's behaviour.

Furthermore, the court accepted that the singer's actions were a kind of "artistic" performance, and that the singer had not "directly" aimed at offending religious sensibilities.

"The crime of offending religious sensibilities is committed not only by he who intends to carry it out, but also by he who is aware that his actions may lead to offence being taken," the court concluded.

Darski had been brought to court by former MP Ryszard Nowak, chairman of the privately run Nationwide Defence Committee against Sects. Following yesterday's hearing, Nowak declared his satisfaction with the ruling.

After emerging from court, Darski said that on the one hand "one should respect the court's verdict." But he also said that his country's mentality "is immature, trying to gag people," and that he was in court for "the good cause", namely the right to "freedom of speech."





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Posted: 30.10.2012 by BloodTears



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Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 13:11  
Poland is most undemocratical country in EU .... football fans go to jail for nothing , things what is banned there for poles was not stoped and taken away in EC days (I talk about communistic symbols what Russian fans wear)
Poland is only countdy in EU (Norge is not EU) where Canal+ dont show porn at nightime
New people shood go in politics and get elected and stop this ...... this is same like islam ......

I never would do what he did , but I dont care and I support freedom of humen wrights .... and if judges are so pute ... remeber folks use a condom is sin and devorce is sin .... when you will be pure , wont use condom , profe you're saint 1th
rpsgc - 30.10.2012 at 13:13  
Freedom of speech is a myth.



Unless you're a 'minority'. Then you can insult and offend whomever you please.
Daniell - 30.10.2012 at 13:22  
Written by Bad English on 30.10.2012 at 13:11

Poland is most undemocratical country in EU .... football fans go to jail for nothing , things what is banned there for poles was not stoped and taken away in EC days (I talk about communistic symbols what Russian fans wear)
Poland is only countdy in EU (Norge is not EU) where Canal+ dont show porn at nightime
New people shood go in politics and get elected and stop this ...... this is same like islam ......

I never would do what he did , but I dont care and I support freedom of humen wrights .... and if judges are so pute ... remeber folks use a condom is sin and devorce is sin .... when you will be pure , wont use condom , profe you're saint 1th


You're so clueless about my country that I won't even dignify your gibberish with an educated answer. But I do try to follow a simple rule in life: if you have no clue, shut the fuck up.
Marcel Hubregtse - 30.10.2012 at 13:32  
Written by Bad English on 30.10.2012 at 13:11

Poland is most undemocratical country in EU .... football fans go to jail for nothing , things what is banned there for poles was not stoped and taken away in EC days (I talk about communistic symbols what Russian fans wear)
Poland is only countdy in EU (Norge is not EU) where Canal+ dont show porn at nightime
New people shood go in politics and get elected and stop this ...... this is same like islam ......

I never would do what he did , but I dont care and I support freedom of humen wrights .... and if judges are so pute ... remeber folks use a condom is sin and devorce is sin .... when you will be pure , wont use condom , profe you're saint 1th


once again you are talking about something you totally know nothing about.
Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 13:39  
Marcel - Daniel
I doubt you will go to jail in Swe for this, not in Lv and probobly other country ,
He did not nothing, he did not burn a churh or rape a nun, murder a priest what is actualy a crime
In USA you can burn america's flag and no punnsihment

PS you cant watch porn in canal+ poland , only country where has canal + and has no porn ¨
I have a good friend who use to work for canal+ program cards , and card security and worc whit encription
Now he works for British Sky
theFIST - 30.10.2012 at 14:06  
Why is honesty forbidden in poland?
jupitreas - 30.10.2012 at 14:23  
@Bad English - as Daniel and Marcel said, you have no idea what you're talking about. Porn and in fact even prostitution is completely legal in Poland and is very much shown on television. Why Canal+ doesn't do it, I don't know, you should probably ask them because there is nothing in Polish law preventing them from doing so.

As for football - don't forget that football is a sport that unfortunately attracts a lot of violent people and to be perfectly honest, I am glad that there was so much Police involved during EURO2012, as a citizen of Warsaw I felt a lot safer. Everything turned out pretty good, there were no big incidents and I was in fact on that bridge when the Russian fans made their march. TV fixated on a few idiot Polish hooligans who were harassing the Russians but in fact the entire march was pretty incident-free and not a big deal at all. Russian people generally felt quite welcome in Warsaw, based on the conversations that I've had with Russian visitors at that time.

=======================

And now, here is my comment on the issue at hand: Poland is a rapidly developing country and it is catching up with the rest of the EU in great strides, but there are still a few issues left behind after all of the misery caused by WWII and communist rule that the Polish people just can't get over that quickly. The whole Church thing is one such thing - since the Catholic Church has been associated as being in opposition to the communist rule back in the day, there is now still a lingering sense of trust for the Church. Even though more and more young people openly identify as atheist these days in Poland, the Church remains a very vital force in this country and as they see their influence slowly crumbling, they go after guys like Nergal. It is stupid and I am quite ashamed of this to be honest, but its not as bad as it used to be either. Hopefully this case, and other cases like this (there are a few more cases related to offending religious sensibilities happening in Poland that we haven't mentioned here) will bring enough publicity to the issue that young people will finally get turned off to the Church and its influence will decrease.

So yeah, this is a very embarrassing thing that is happening here, and I just hope that eventually we will realize how stupid it makes our country look.

Finally, let me just say that freedom of speech is very much protected by the constitution in Poland, this is just a witch hunt and a huge publicity stunt. You can read plenty of articles that are way more offensive to religious sensibilities in the press here in Poland and nobody says anything, Nergal has simply been targeted as he is a celebrity in Poland.
Unhealer - 30.10.2012 at 15:06  
Written by jupitreas on 30.10.2012 at 14:23

Hopefully this case, and other cases like this (there are a few more cases related to offending religious sensibilities happening in Poland that we haven't mentioned here) will bring enough publicity to the issue that young people will finally get turned off to the Church and its influence will decrease.


I was thinking the same thing, they can win this fight but that'd be just a step closer into losing a war if you put it that way.
Too bad for Nergal if he has to face a couple of prison years just after escaping from death.
Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 15:42  
Jup - well it means non of my post make sence for all time? sometimes I have that feeling
What I mean is about EC was Pol-Rus ... all shood be arested whit comunistic simbols and same whit nazie, if boith are banned, but gourement let some go unarested ...
and those violent ppl shood go behind bars , fight in street and riot in sport is crime how say something how in this case

and you are wright about it church helped be opposition aganst communism, but now this is over, young kids dont even remeber how it was in those days . Those days are over , whole east Europe ''suffer from same sydroms'' ....and besides church from law there shood be seperatuion, in Scandinavia such thinks wont happen .....
.... in Swe nat radio was interesting discussion, I miss huge part sinec I was on buss, but they said after 10 years intelectual ppl totaly will reject chrsitianity since it stops progress and in Swe only 10% cosnider them selfs like believers and do all christian rituals.

And Pol is maybe only country in N Europe where church play so huge role and ppl belive

Im sick n tired so called christians close family friends same time real bastards dictae my life , say I will burn in hell, Im sinner bla bla....same time they do more sin
Like I said according to church condoms and devorce is sin .... they say till death do us apart something when ppl get merried ... so how many true belivers are there who follow those rules?

Im off since this post wont make any sence and I dont understand what I talk about
X5452 - 30.10.2012 at 16:20  
It´s 2012, seriously Poland? Your laws are outdated and you should grow up!
Big-Al - 30.10.2012 at 16:51  
Hope there is a retrial.
Fradd - 30.10.2012 at 16:54  
You should see my country then. I'm truly embarrassed.
Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 17:03  
Written by X5452 on 30.10.2012 at 16:20

It´s 2012, seriously Poland? Your laws are outdated and you should grow up!


Go to islam world there be more democracy
X5452 - 30.10.2012 at 17:08  
Written by Bad English on 30.10.2012 at 17:03

Written by X5452 on 30.10.2012 at 16:20

It´s 2012, seriously Poland? Your laws are outdated and you should grow up!


Go to islam world there be more democracy


Islamic countries have even more growing up to do. I am against pulling religion into law thus Sharia law in Islamic countries is an absolute no-go in my opinion. Law should treat everyone equally and when you pull religion into the equation this all goes to shits.
Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 17:15  
According to FIFA rules gourements cant dictate what nat football federations shoodd do
EU shood make stricter laws and force countries deal chrch from gourement
Boxcar Willy - 30.10.2012 at 17:17  
Well this sucks.
ANGEL REAPER - 30.10.2012 at 17:23  
Democracy? freedom? equality ?
its all a myth these days....its only good phrases used by countries when youngsters go to war and die for rich people interests...
anyway i 100% support Nergal in this fight...
jupitreas - 30.10.2012 at 17:31  
Written by Unhealer on 30.10.2012 at 15:06

Written by jupitreas on 30.10.2012 at 14:23

Hopefully this case, and other cases like this (there are a few more cases related to offending religious sensibilities happening in Poland that we haven't mentioned here) will bring enough publicity to the issue that young people will finally get turned off to the Church and its influence will decrease.


I was thinking the same thing, they can win this fight but that'd be just a step closer into losing a war if you put it that way.
Too bad for Nergal if he has to face a couple of prison years just after escaping from death.


I am nearly 100% sure that Nergal will never see jail time for this. In my opinion, this whole case is simply a media opera that is being used in Poland to take attention away from other, far more serious, problems in politics etc.
jupitreas - 30.10.2012 at 17:40  
Written by Bad English on 30.10.2012 at 15:42

Jup - well it means non of my post make sence for all time? sometimes I have that feeling

You should simply be more careful how you phrase your statements. Saying that Poland is the most undemocratic country in the EU based on data that I, and others, have shown to be fallacious is bound to get some people riled up over what you write. BTW, based on the study performed by Freedom House, Poland is actually considered a "Free" country, with a freedom of press rating of 25 (comparison: Finland=10, Denmark=12, Estonia=18, USA=18, UK=21, France=24, Greece=30, Italy=33, Hungary=36, Turkey=55, Egypt=57, North Korea=97 lower is better). If you had first consulted some facts, you would not make such statements and people would not misunderstand your posts.

Quote:

What I mean is about EC was Pol-Rus ... all shood be arested whit comunistic simbols and same whit nazie, if boith are banned, but gourement let some go unarested ...
and those violent ppl shood go behind bars , fight in street and riot in sport is crime how say something how in this case

As far as I know, all of the really violent hooligans who have been harassing Russians and other nations (as well as Polish citizens) have been prosecuted for their deeds. As for the nationalist symbolism used - my guess is that the authorities simply didn't want to stir the nest in order to avoid a larger problem, which IMO was the right decision. In the end, there was no real big incident...

Quote:

and you are wright about it church helped be opposition aganst communism, but now this is over, young kids dont even remeber how it was in those days . Those days are over , whole east Europe ''suffer from same sydroms'' ....and besides church from law there shood be seperatuion, in Scandinavia such thinks wont happen .....
.... in Swe nat radio was interesting discussion, I miss huge part sinec I was on buss, but they said after 10 years intelectual ppl totaly will reject chrsitianity since it stops progress and in Swe only 10% cosnider them selfs like believers and do all christian rituals.

And Pol is maybe only country in N Europe where church play so huge role and ppl belive

Indeed, Poland has a very large percentage of people who identify as Christian and even though Church-government separation is indeed ensured by the constitution, in practice the Church still has an enormous influence on politics and everyday life. We are basically dealing with a behemoth of an infrastructure here (forgive the pun) that has been in place for years and its influence cannot be eradicated quickly. Priests in Poland are often far more important in rural communities than political authorities and this cannot just be stopped immediately, people are not able to change their outlook this rapidly. Rather, it will be a gradual process of secularization that will take many years; however, I am confident that Poland will eventually join the more developed EU countries in having a healthy attitude towards religion. This case is an indication that the Church is feeling threatened, which is actually a good thing - they would not harass Nergal so much if they didn't feel they had something to lose and as they feel their power slowly diminishing, they are not likely to go without a fight.
Opethian - 30.10.2012 at 17:41  
Best of luck Nergal!
Fradd - 30.10.2012 at 17:44  
Written by jupitreas on 30.10.2012 at 17:31

I am nearly 100% sure that Nergal will never see jail time for this. In my opinion, this whole case is simply a media opera that is being used in Poland to take attention away from other, far more serious, problems in politics etc.

Back in '97, we had a similar row in Egypt. Government arrested dozens of metalheads, sentenced them and then issued a pardon. No one went to jail. Later it turned out to be an opera made to take attention away from serious political shit that had been going on at the time.
D.T. Metal - 30.10.2012 at 17:53  
Written by jupitreas on 30.10.2012 at 14:23

Finally, let me just say that freedom of speech is very much protected by the constitution in Poland, this is just a witch hunt and a huge publicity stunt. You can read plenty of articles that are way more offensive to religious sensibilities in the press here in Poland and nobody says anything, Nergal has simply been targeted as he is a celebrity in Poland.

^^^ Exactly THIS ... and Nowak just can't let it go apparently.
BudDa - 30.10.2012 at 18:25  
I don't know Nergal. But the times I have read about him..esp in anything that is not metal related, its this (anti)religious stuff; and I don't know if its just me but Nergal seems to play victim quite well (I read his post/rant on facebook). If this is a publicity stunt then the government orchestrating it and Nergal, deserve each other.
Cynic Metalhead - 30.10.2012 at 18:59  
Written by Opethian on 30.10.2012 at 17:41

Best of luck Nergal!


This dude did a major blunder by tearing down the BIBLE. If he would have raped a minor girl live on stage, I think Poland officials wouldn't give a single fuck about it.

Maaan! he seriously needs A VERY BEST OF BEST LUCK.( considering he's attention seeking whore)
Marcel Hubregtse - 30.10.2012 at 19:09  
Why does Nergal pull such stunts in Poland and not in other countries? Not to take a stance against religion... he knows what will happen when he does it in Poland and that means free publicity for him and his band and they will cash in on it, which they will certainly need to do with the current generic bland death metal they are churning out. A pure marketing trick by current day Behemoth. They never did it when they were a black metal band or during their creatively best period ( Satanica, Zos albums)

The guys is an attention whore first class, simple as that
Vombatus - 30.10.2012 at 19:10  
This case got boring a long time ago.
Unhealer - 30.10.2012 at 19:36  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:09

Why does Nergal pull such stunts in Poland and not in other countries?


I saw them here in Argentina that same tour on 2007 and they did it also.
It's missing here, but on other webzines I read an statement by Orion saying that it was nothing special, effectively they did it the whole tour.
Marcel Hubregtse - 30.10.2012 at 19:39  
Written by Unhealer on 30.10.2012 at 19:36

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:09

Why does Nergal pull such stunts in Poland and not in other countries?


I saw them here in Argentina that same tour on 2007 and they did it also.
It's missing here, but on other webzines I read an statement by Orion saying that it was nothing special, effectively they did it the whole tour.


I saw them on the same tour here in The Netherlands and they didn't do it here, cause guess why? Because they already knew beforehand they wouln'd get any publicity by doing it.

My point stands, Nergal ONLY does it because of the publicity it will get him and his band
Unhealer - 30.10.2012 at 19:47  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:39

I saw them on the same tour here in The Netherlands and they didn't do it here, cause guess why? Because they already knew beforehand they wouln'd get any publicity by doing it.

My point stands, Nergal ONLY does it because of the publicity it will get him and his band


Weird. I didn't intend to contradict you though, since great part of the success Behemoth had has a lot to do with their image and not their music that point is valid even though I wouldn't put it like that.
Just wanted to point out that even if they didn't do it every date of the tour, it wasn't a special stunt for Poland.
SSM - 30.10.2012 at 19:49  
If he was here, he would be executed right away.
"Freedom Of Speech"? a bad joke.
Marcel Hubregtse - 30.10.2012 at 19:54  
Written by Unhealer on 30.10.2012 at 19:47

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:39

I saw them on the same tour here in The Netherlands and they didn't do it here, cause guess why? Because they already knew beforehand they wouln'd get any publicity by doing it.

My point stands, Nergal ONLY does it because of the publicity it will get him and his band


Weird. I didn't intend to contradict you though, since great part of the success Behemoth had has a lot to do with their image and not their music that point is valid even though I wouldn't put it like that.
Just wanted to point out that even if they didn't do it every date of the tour, it wasn't a special stunt for Poland.



aha I see what you mean.

But why I think he did it on the Argentinian date(s) of the tour is because he thought he would stir up the same sort of shitstorm as in Poland, but, luckily, that didn't happen.
But he knew nothing like the Poland controversy would happen in The Netherlands so he didn't do it there.
It really is clear that NERGAL is one of the BIGGEST HYPOCRITES around.
Unhealer - 30.10.2012 at 20:20  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:54

But why I think he did it on the Argentinian date(s) of the tour is because he thought he would stir up the same sort of shitstorm as in Poland, but, luckily, that didn't happen.


Haha, I think nobody did even know they were playing here (or who they were for that matter) except for the aprox. 500 guys that attended the concert If you look up on youtube, you can see videos of several venues where he did bible bashing.
Whether he does it for art or for drawing attention, I don't believe he carefully choose where to do it and where not based on the repercussion it'd have, whatever the actual criteria was. I don't think national media would give a fuck about something like this elsewhere than in their homeland.
AngelofDeth - 30.10.2012 at 20:34  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:39

Written by Unhealer on 30.10.2012 at 19:36

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:09

Why does Nergal pull such stunts in Poland and not in other countries?


I saw them here in Argentina that same tour on 2007 and they did it also.
It's missing here, but on other webzines I read an statement by Orion saying that it was nothing special, effectively they did it the whole tour.


I saw them on the same tour here in The Netherlands and they didn't do it here, cause guess why? Because they already knew beforehand they wouln'd get any publicity by doing it.

My point stands, Nergal ONLY does it because of the publicity it will get him and his band

Its not just that, its about making a statement. He does it in countries that dont approve because it should be allowable to do. So really the polish gov. is just creating more hate and ignorance by punishing him for this. If they allowed him to tear the bible he wouldnt feel the need to do it as much. If they were less part of gov, Nergal would be way less anti-christian. Its the statement that hes portraying is what matters to him.
Marcel Hubregtse - 30.10.2012 at 20:36  
Written by AngelofDeth on 30.10.2012 at 20:34


Its not just that, its about making a statement.


I disagree, if it was about making a statement he would have done it a long time ago already and not only the past couple of years.
Bad English - 30.10.2012 at 21:04  
Written by jupitreas on 30.10.2012 at 17:40

Written by Bad English on 30.10.2012 at 15:42

Jup - well it means non of my post make sence for all time? sometimes I have that feeling



Jup - I mean most undepmocratic where deal is make fun about church like this case
I have no clue about how strong is homosexual wrights and abortion but this case like in EU IMO when deal is church judging its not strong democracy there
and when deal is whit this band somehow church re acts + there was some BM band concerts canceled what I have read in MS.... so rest of countries in N Europe are more free
there is no laws who stop this

I dont wanna go off to , but that banner in Wasrhawa and how some rus re act and get free whit out fines , well if there is law there is law , I dont like when its been changed because of some event and some groop bla bla
about violence , AIK was in Poznan , Helsinborg was Wrozlaw , , Lech boys was in Solna and some Wrozlaw guys wenmt to Helsinkborg even was banned from one away mach

Its in latvia to part who in old days was under polish rule, maybe Lithuania to where priests has more popular and more power in society
in my home town I dont remeber old prest but new one was clown not respected and all church singers was easy women when they were young and secretly like drink ... our priest was before tranbsformed to my viliadge a priest in prison ,
In Swe hmmmm I doubt any priest ha sinfluence in society

But all has in youth hands ....


Marcel - if Begemoth be dutch band and would do same , I doubt there ever be any action, specely punnishment
scapeplan - 30.10.2012 at 21:17  
Written by rpsgc on 30.10.2012 at 13:13

Unless you're a 'minority'. Then you can insult and offend whomever you please.

This isn't Stormfront. Keep your racist bullshit out of this.
Neroese - 30.10.2012 at 21:29  
No...
psykometal - 30.10.2012 at 21:42  
I saw some other pics from the trial, love that he decided to wear a Watain shirt into court hearing about religious sentiment...
Spirit Molecule - 30.10.2012 at 21:42  
This stupid shit cost us a show!!! Fucking cunts!

Anyway, who cares whether he did it for publicity or he did it coz he actually hates religion.
There are so many bands who do things just for the shock value or do something just to get publicity.
I still think that it is quite stupid that they are charging him for it. From what I heard they are trying to show it as a work of art, or something like that so that it can get thrown out of court?
Martinikuss - 31.10.2012 at 00:07  
Destroying Biblie - ok
destroying Koran - not ok -> riots, bombs and killed people

wtf ?
Bad English - 31.10.2012 at 00:08  
Written by psykometal on 30.10.2012 at 21:42

I saw some other pics from the trial, love that he decided to wear a Watain shirt into court hearing about religious sentiment...


well etlesst he alreday has short hair .... not hwos typid Varg cut off hair because of cort(that was what I reed about it)
StephenTheBoss - 31.10.2012 at 00:42  
Well fuck
AngelofDeth - 31.10.2012 at 02:12  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 20:36

I disagree, if it was about making a statement he would have done it a long time ago already and not only the past couple of years.

the charge is from 2007.. so obviously its been more than a couple years. I do admit he is a bit of a dramaqueen but i see the other side of it too.

Written by Spirit Molecule on 30.10.2012 at 21:42

Anyway, who cares whether he did it for publicity or he did it coz he actually hates religion.
There are so many bands who do things just for the shock value or do something just to get publicity.

Thats a good point, the shock factor has always been apart of rock and consequently metal as well.
Voidable - 31.10.2012 at 07:02  
Okay, how is it possible to offend religious sensibilities when religion isn't sensible in the first place?
M C Vice - 31.10.2012 at 10:03  
Do Polish judges really look like that? They look more like cardinals.
Daniell - 31.10.2012 at 10:09  
Written by M C Vice on 31.10.2012 at 10:03

Do Polish judges really look like that? They look more like cardinals.


you obviously haven't seen British judges
M C Vice - 31.10.2012 at 12:02  
Written by Daniell on 31.10.2012 at 10:09

Written by M C Vice on 31.10.2012 at 10:03

Do Polish judges really look like that? They look more like cardinals.


you obviously haven't seen British judges

They're like ours, aren't they? With the wigs and black robes (dresses, lets be honest).
Daniell - 31.10.2012 at 12:38  
Written by M C Vice on 31.10.2012 at 12:02

They're like ours, aren't they? With the wigs and black robes (dresses, lets be honest).


Yes, that's about it.

As for the robes. It's worth knowing that trousers as such are not the oldest form of attire. Admittedly, the first trousers were worn hundreds of years BC (if my memory serves me right, they're from the middle east, where they were initially worn by riders, for obviously practical reasons). But all men of substance for thousands of years wore all kinds of robes, and trousers were only situational. Since courts in every possible country put strong emphasis on tradition, it is only logical that traditional clothes are worn there.
Bad English - 31.10.2012 at 15:02  
Finaly
EU 1-0 Polish Chatolic church .... disturbing the priest in ass


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20143558
MetalHead74 - 01.11.2012 at 16:52  
Written by AngelofDeth on 30.10.2012 at 20:34

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:39

Written by Unhealer on 30.10.2012 at 19:36

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2012 at 19:09

Why does Nergal pull such stunts in Poland and not in other countries?


I saw them here in Argentina that same tour on 2007 and they did it also.
It's missing here, but on other webzines I read an statement by Orion saying that it was nothing special, effectively they did it the whole tour.


I saw them on the same tour here in The Netherlands and they didn't do it here, cause guess why? Because they already knew beforehand they wouln'd get any publicity by doing it.

My point stands, Nergal ONLY does it because of the publicity it will get him and his band

Its not just that, its about making a statement. He does it in countries that dont approve because it should be allowable to do. So really the polish gov. is just creating more hate and ignorance by punishing him for this. If they allowed him to tear the bible he wouldnt feel the need to do it as much. If they were less part of gov, Nergal would be way less anti-christian. Its the statement that hes portraying is what matters to him.



I think he just added that to his show because he wanted someting new, that's it. I saw him a few years back and he tore a bible up on stage and I live in Montreal, Canada, over here you can say whatever the fuck you want

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