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The fact that Exumer is in the thrash category shows how 2012 was for thrash... I don't know 2012 just seemed lame to me  other than CC who didn't even get nominated so... wrote in my vote for let-down and that's basically the only one I felt it was worth voting on |
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Well I've already listened to plenty of albums in 2012 but looking at MS AWARDS, I got seriously disappointed,now I still should listen to plenty of albums  |
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Good work, by the staff, from what I've seen so far Written by Ceddybu on 02.02.2013 at 08:10
The fact that Exumer is in the thrash category shows how 2012 was for thrash... I don't know 2012 just seemed lame to me other than CC who didn't even get nominated so... wrote in my vote for let-down and that's basically the only one I felt it was worth voting on I can agree with most of this, but it's nice to see a few more among the write-ins for me to investigate. I can throw in Mastery (from Canada)'s effort as another candidate, but it's unlikely I'll be voting it Best Thrash of the Year |
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Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 01:46
The latest Circus Maximus album appeared to be unnoticed by most of people 
lol It's tough competition for prog every year, you know. I would love to see Vertigo Steps up there and they didn't make it either. it's always a very difficult category. What do you think about the other nominees though? |
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| I'm fine with the nominees, it's not like there were many albums I really really wanted to be nominated. There were three, and all three were nominated, and I'm voting for them, so yah, that's cool. |
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Written by Syk on 02.02.2013 at 16:11
Written by Ceddybu on 02.02.2013 at 08:10
The fact that Exumer is in the thrash category shows how 2012 was for thrash... I don't know 2012 just seemed lame to me other than CC who didn't even get nominated so... wrote in my vote for let-down and that's basically the only one I felt it was worth voting on I I can throw in Mastery (from Canada)'s effort as another candidate, but it's unlikely I'll be voting it Best Thrash of the Year
Well, then i'll slide Lich King's latest than Mastery's In The Key Of Kill.
But, won't deny the fact that Lich's latest record isn't even close to nominees of 2012. It could be tough call in thrash cat but I think i'll be going for "Deathhammer". |
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Iriki - 02.02.2013 at 18:27
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Written by BloodTears on 02.02.2013 at 16:35
Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 01:46
The latest Circus Maximus album appeared to be unnoticed by most of people
lol It's tough competition for prog every year, you know. I would love to see Vertigo Steps up there and they didn't make it either. it's always a very difficult category. What do you think about the other nominees though?
Most of them I just got a quick look up. Ørkenkjøtt and Dissona have very interesting avantgardish passages, although it's not my daily cup of tea, it's good to hear sometimes. I really need to dig them up.
BTBAM, Threshold and OSI are pretty enjoyable and with personality, they are closer to my taste, I have to listen more times.
To-Mera is an special case, I think it's the only band with female vocals that I actually like. I used to listen to them before a lot, but then I got tired, because I wanted something different than the usual Dream Theater-style or the ethereal one in Earthbound. This album have a new style, this motivated me to listen back to them.
The albums i listened more were Ne Obliviscaris, Enochian Theory, and Enslaved.
In RITIIR the atmosphere relies a bit too much in the vocals, I was expecting something like Axioma Ethica Odini. On the other hand, they improved their song structures. In the Silence debut looks promising. Enochian newer showed that they really reafirm their style, avoiding those harsh vocals that didn't fit on Evolution. I was following Ne Obliviscaris since their demo, their expected debut really blows me away. |
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| GREAT. I have been waiting for this, it is time to find some good bands in the nominees. BUT, where is Swallow The Sun and Wintersun for God's sake?! since I know I vote for Swallow The Sun in Doom category but in which category do I vote for Wintersun? |
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Written by Justicelust on 02.02.2013 at 18:28
GREAT. I have been waiting for this, it is time to find some good bands in the nominees. BUT, where is Swallow The Sun and Wintersun for God's sake?! since I know I vote for Swallow The Sun in Doom category but in which category do I vote for Wintersun?
Both didn't make it into the final ten nominees in doom and Melodeath / Extreme Power / Gothenburg Metal because when tallying the votes of all staff/elites the final nominated ones scored a lot higher than those two albums. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.02.2013 at 18:44
Written by Justicelust on 02.02.2013 at 18:28
GREAT. I have been waiting for this, it is time to find some good bands in the nominees. BUT, where is Swallow The Sun and Wintersun for God's sake?! since I know I vote for Swallow The Sun in Doom category but in which category do I vote for Wintersun?
Both didn't make it into the final ten nominees in doom and Melodeath / Extreme Power / Gothenburg Metal because when tallying the votes of all staff/elites the final nominated ones scored a lot higher than those two albums.
Thanks Marcel  it's weird but reasonable that they didn't make it into the nominees. I may reconsider my votes, I will listen to all the nominated albums before rather than rushing into voting for my favorite albums. |
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Iriki - 02.02.2013 at 23:59
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Yeah, no mentioning Swallow the Sun annoyed me a bit, that was my favorite album this year  |
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So then write it in.  |
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Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 23:59
Yeah, no mentioning Swallow the Sun annoyed me a bit, that was my favorite album this year
Their video was great. That might have chances. |
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Another year of really strange genre placements but strong titles. Only missing Menace Ruine, Profetus, Hail Spirit Noir and P.H.O.B.O.S. as must-names. I guess I could write in Menace Ruine but I'm not sure where. I just voted Pallbearer in doom. This time around I had already heard every album in doom, and missed only 1 or 2 in black, extreme doom and sludge/stoner. Not a whole lot of new albums to check out, which is a relief.
But how could I have missed that new A Million Dead Birds Laughing album? Really glad that it was nominated or I wouldn't have learned of it. Sounds great and might take Anaal Nathrakh's position as my fave in that category. A few to check out, but I know from descriptions that I won't like Cattle Decapitation and co. |
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Written by IronAngel on 03.02.2013 at 00:45
I guess I could write in Menace Ruine but I'm not sure where.
The Nuke Station might help you. |
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| One may talk about tastes and likes and so on, but having awards for 2012 without nominating Sabaton - Carolus Rex, Mors Principium Est - ...And Death Said Live and Wintersun - Time I ... more than strange. Worse thing is, I remebered they are missing and that I should add them only after I voted and you can't alter your votes... |
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Written by RhaegarTargaryen on 03.02.2013 at 00:55
Worse thing is, I remebered they are missing and that I should add them only after I voted and you can't alter your votes...
Heh, doesn't it like by definition mean that the missing bands weren't good enough if you remembered about them only afterwards? Be reasonable and face it. As for the votes, you should be able to erase your vote and cast again. Use the awards index page.
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Written by IronAngel on 03.02.2013 at 00:45
Profetus, P.H.O.B.O.S.
Damn, didn't notice it until you mentioned it ... both are really deserving of a spot among the nominees. |
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Written by IronAngel on 03.02.2013 at 00:45
Another year of really strange genre placements but strong titles. Only missing Menace Ruine, Profetus, Hail Spirit Noir and P.H.O.B.O.S. as must-names. I guess I could write in Menace Ruine but I'm not sure where. I just voted Pallbearer in doom. This time around I had already heard every album in doom, and missed only 1 or 2 in black, extreme doom and sludge/stoner. Not a whole lot of new albums to check out, which is a relief.
But how could I have missed that new A Million Dead Birds Laughing album? Really glad that it was nominated or I wouldn't have learned of it. Sounds great and might take Anaal Nathrakh's position as my fave in that category. A few to check out, but I know from descriptions that I won't like Cattle Decapitation and co.
I would have loved P.H.O.B.O.S. and Menace Ruine to be in the awards, but it would have made the extreme doom cat. even more complicated and difficult! also find it weird that Hail Spirit Noir didn't make it. To me that record had a kind of across-the-board appeal, be it black, avant garde or whatever. Oh well. |
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Written by IronAngel on 03.02.2013 at 00:45
I guess I could write in Menace Ruine but I'm not sure where.
They go in Extreme Doom but as WaterTrident/Array (Damnit Array!!! ) said there is a special thread for those questions.  |
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Written by RhaegarTargaryen on 03.02.2013 at 00:55
One may talk about tastes and likes and so on, but having awards for 2012 without nominating Sabaton - Carolus Rex, Mors Principium Est - ...And Death Said Live and Wintersun - Time I ... more than strange. Worse thing is, I remebered they are missing and that I should add them only after I voted and you can't alter your votes...
you can delete your votes from the awards front page. |
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@Rhaegar
On the MSA front page there are little red x's next to the individual votes or at the very bottom you can click on "Delete all votes" |
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Moose - 03.02.2013 at 08:59
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Written by psykometal on 01.02.2013 at 01:57
Written by demonsarising on 01.02.2013 at 01:48
How did Periphery's Periphery II not make a nomination in Djent/Math metal? It was a seriously good album!
For the same reason anything does not make the top 10 of any cat, we in Staff did not agree with your opinion. 
I guess that is the fairest way nominees can be chosen.... still, what I've read over at getdjent.com suggests fans of the genre might pick it as djent album of the year... so to not make the list at all seems strange  |
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Written by Moose on 03.02.2013 at 08:59
I guess that is the fairest way nominees can be chosen.... still, what I've read over at getdjent.com suggests fans of the genre might pick it as djent album of the year... so to not make the list at all seems strange
Well of course a site dedicated to djent is going to list the release from the biggest known djent band in the world (save for Meshuggah if you count them as djent, I prefer not to  ) as the best djent album of the year. But several of the Metal Storm Staff (and users as well) are not a bunch of crazy djent fanatics who go gaga for every djent band that pops up in the world (not saying you are) so I guess you could say our opinions of it are a bit more unbiased.
And by no means am I saying that we're a bunch of "djent haters who had to stomach our way through all the djent releases just so we could include it into a category" either, just indicating that our tastes are a bit more varied than the average djent fan who probably worships the very ground that Misha Mansoor plays guitar upon.  |
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Moose - 03.02.2013 at 09:45
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Written by psykometal on 03.02.2013 at 09:15
But several of the Metal Storm Staff (and users as well) are not a bunch of crazy djent fanatics
Wait... but wouldn't it be best if the selections for the DJENT category were made by DJENT fanatics?
I feel as if they would have the most educated opinion, given it's their favorite genre of music.
(On a related note, i've always thought it would be cool to have an extra rating section for albums... keep the general rating system, but add another rating reserved only for people who list themselves as a fan of that genre. Then you could see for example, the highest rated thrash metal album, as voted only by fans of thrash metal). |
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Written by Moose on 03.02.2013 at 09:45
Wait... but wouldn't it be best if the selections for the DJENT category were made by DJENT fanatics?
I feel as if they would have the most educated opinion, given it's their favorite genre of music.
On a djent site, yes. On a more varied site that caters to many different users/genres, no.
For a site like Metal Storm it's best to have a more unbiased opinion because then maybe those djent haters/detracters might find something in the genre they actually like rather than seeing the same popular djent bands over and over and over again without ever getting any exposure to the lesser known bands that maybe they will like because they aren't just the "popular shit bands".
Also that's part of the point and the fun of the MSAs, to help users find bands they might not have otherwise known existed and to help expose lesser known bands to users who might not have discovered those bands otherwise. If somebody wants to know who the latest and greatest djent bands are they can go to a site like getdjent for that but if they want djent that isn't the same popular drivel you find plastered all over sites like getdjent, djent that is also liked by metalheads that don't just follow popular trends and who actually judge the bands on their music and not their popularity index then come check out the MSA noms. |
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Written by Moose on 03.02.2013 at 09:45
Written by psykometal on 03.02.2013 at 09:15
But several of the Metal Storm Staff (and users as well) are not a bunch of crazy djent fanatics
Wait... but wouldn't it be best if the selections for the DJENT category were made by DJENT fanatics?
I feel as if they would have the most educated opinion, given it's their favorite genre of music. Djent is indeed a favourite of at least one of the staff. But there are quite a lot of categories and it will be silly to exclude other's opinions when their absolute favourite genre isn't djent. We still appreciate the music. In fact, just taking me as an example, I don't think I have a favourite sub-genre of metal.
Besides, if we had identical opinion as some other genre-specific sites, that makes our own awards a bit useless, doesn't it?
We genuinely hope you've found some cool music from the awards otherwise you would have missed |
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Written by Ivor on 03.02.2013 at 01:13
Written by RhaegarTargaryen on 03.02.2013 at 00:55
Worse thing is, I remebered they are missing and that I should add them only after I voted and you can't alter your votes...
Heh, doesn't it like by definition mean that the missing bands weren't good enough if you remembered about them only afterwards? Be reasonable and face it. As for the votes, you should be able to erase your vote and cast again. Use the awards index page.
I.
Not when you cast your votes from work, so you do it with half mind set on it. I realised what was missing when I got home.
Thank you and BitterCOld for the direction about deleting votes, of course when I opened page today, I realised there are option to delete it. Silly me, note to self: never post in a hurry and with mind half set on it. |
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Kamil - 03.02.2013 at 12:07
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Btw. I am happy with the fact that potential of Dark Empire has finally been recognized and appreciated by metal community. They have earned it  |
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Written by RhaegarTargaryen on 03.02.2013 at 12:04
Thank you and BitterCOld for the direction about deleting votes, of course when I opened page today, I realised there are option to delete it. Silly me, note to self: never post in a hurry and with mind half set on it.
don't sweat it. you asking probably saved a couple other people from having to do likewise. |
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| Cool stuff, it was fun being able to vote here for the first time. Some of my favorite bands appeared in the polls, and a few cool surprises were there too. Looking forward to starting the process over again for 2013. |
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Written by Moose on 03.02.2013 at 08:59
Written by psykometal on 01.02.2013 at 01:57
Written by demonsarising on 01.02.2013 at 01:48
How did Periphery's Periphery II not make a nomination in Djent/Math metal? It was a seriously good album!
For the same reason anything does not make the top 10 of any cat, we in Staff did not agree with your opinion.
I guess that is the fairest way nominees can be chosen.... still, what I've read over at getdjent.com suggests fans of the genre might pick it as djent album of the year... so to not make the list at all seems strange
I'm not a fan of the genre, but still picked it as favorite djent album of the year
Well, Periphery and Skyharbor. For some reason Periphery weren't all that popular with the other staffers though, especially not with those who consider themselves fans of the genre. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 03.02.2013 at 01:46
I would have loved P.H.O.B.O.S. and Menace Ruine to be in the awards, but it would have made the extreme doom cat. even more complicated and difficult! also find it weird that Hail Spirit Noir didn't make it. To me that record had a kind of across-the-board appeal, be it black, avant garde or whatever. Oh well.
It would have been great to see P.H.O.B.O.S. in the awards indeed... About Hair Spirit Noir: It was going to be in the Avantgarde awards and it didn't make it. It was quite close though... Same with De Magia Veterum. |
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| Still I'm glad that the other two albums "made in Mories" make it |
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About the "omissions" and similar questions:
The reason why we do this in the first place is because this is a team of people who like keeping in touch with modern metal - some are genre enthusiasts, and some listen to a little bit of everything - and who would be listening to hundreds of albums every year either way. Sometimes there's way too many good releases in a year so some get inevitably omitted, but we hope we manage to find ten amazing albums with, to steal Joe's expression, across-the-board appeal, and we hope you all listen to them and like them and we really like getting feedback on our efforts... which was overwhelmingly positive this year! Thank you.
It's a colossal things and it takes us about a month to get this sorted out after the year ends (not to mention the work that's done over the year, but in January it gets crazily hectic - ask the first timers in the staff/elite!) In February people usually stop caring about year-end lists and similar, but whoever listens to current albums just in order to make a neat year-end list deserves to be slapped in the face it's the discovery that counts, and we hope you aren't tired of discovering because the MSA will make an appearance every year until we're old and wrinkly, and gently tickle your ears, or perhaps blast them off, depending on the type of metal you listen to 
As you can notice, I'm full of love today. Cheers! |
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| Are there any catagories left that Wintersun hasn't ben written in? |
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Written by M C Vice on 05.02.2013 at 02:58
Are there any catagories left that Wintersun hasn't ben written in?
I went on a quest to find an answer to your question.... the answer is no |
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Written by Alex Lemon on 05.02.2013 at 03:00
Written by M C Vice on 05.02.2013 at 02:58
Are there any catagories left that Wintersun hasn't ben written in?
I went on a quest to find an answer to your question.... the answer is no
Bugger. I didn't have anything to vote for in death, so I was hoping to use that. |
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Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 18:27
Written by BloodTears on 02.02.2013 at 16:35
Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 01:46
The latest Circus Maximus album appeared to be unnoticed by most of people
lol It's tough competition for prog every year, you know. I would love to see Vertigo Steps up there and they didn't make it either. it's always a very difficult category. What do you think about the other nominees though?
Most of them I just got a quick look up. Ørkenkjøtt and Dissona have very interesting avantgardish passages, although it's not my daily cup of tea, it's good to hear sometimes. I really need to dig them up.
BTBAM, Threshold and OSI are pretty enjoyable and with personality, they are closer to my taste, I have to listen more times.
To-Mera is an special case, I think it's the only band with female vocals that I actually like. I used to listen to them before a lot, but then I got tired, because I wanted something different than the usual Dream Theater-style or the ethereal one in Earthbound. This album have a new style, this motivated me to listen back to them.
The albums i listened more were Ne Obliviscaris, Enochian Theory, and Enslaved.
In RITIIR the atmosphere relies a bit too much in the vocals, I was expecting something like Axioma Ethica Odini. On the other hand, they improved their song structures. In the Silence debut looks promising. Enochian newer showed that they really reafirm their style, avoiding those harsh vocals that didn't fit on Evolution. I was following Ne Obliviscaris since their demo, their expected debut really blows me away.
And what about Ihshan's "Eremita"? i was extremely involved by this album, and i don't understan why it didn´t appear in the list. |
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| I miss P.H.O.B.O.S. too, as it was easily on my top 10 from 2012. But still I'm gonna check their other contenders in Extreme Doom? Industrial? I don't know... |
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Written by Evil Chip on 05.02.2013 at 18:01
I miss P.H.O.B.O.S. too, as it was easily on my top 10 from 2012. But still I'm gonna check their other contenders in Extreme Doom? Industrial? I don't know...
Industrial is doing amazing... Blows away most of the industrial albums in most of the past Awards.
Blut Aus Nord, CSSABA and Igorrr are probably the strongest there. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 05.02.2013 at 20:09
Industrial is doing amazing... Blows away most of the industrial albums in most of the past Awards.
Blut Aus Nord, CSSABA and Igorrr are probably the strongest there.
The best thing about it is is that either BaN or Igorrr are odds on to win if we go by amount of votes those albums have received. |
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| Just gave a listen to "The Chant" album in the Gothic Metal category... Wtf is a progressive rock album doing there? |
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mz - 05.02.2013 at 21:23
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I was totally out of scene in 2012 and will check the nominates for black, death, extreme doom, industrial and progressive. Thank you staff of metal storm
Btw, I have a suggestion: it seems that extreme doom category is too competitive. I think it is because the fact that this category consists of too many sub genres including black doom, death doom, sludge doom, funeral doom and drone and probably something else which I am not familiar with. Is it possible to divide extreme doom category into two or more ones? For example, putting the whole noise/dark ambient/drone thing into one category? |
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| Obligatory complaining that Allegaeon wasn't in for Melodeath |
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Iriki - 05.02.2013 at 22:51
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Written by skorpio1977 on 05.02.2013 at 15:39
Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 18:27
Written by BloodTears on 02.02.2013 at 16:35
Written by Iriki on 02.02.2013 at 01:46
The latest Circus Maximus album appeared to be unnoticed by most of people
lol It's tough competition for prog every year, you know. I would love to see Vertigo Steps up there and they didn't make it either. it's always a very difficult category. What do you think about the other nominees though?
Most of them I just got a quick look up. Ørkenkjøtt and Dissona have very interesting avantgardish passages, although it's not my daily cup of tea, it's good to hear sometimes. I really need to dig them up.
BTBAM, Threshold and OSI are pretty enjoyable and with personality, they are closer to my taste, I have to listen more times.
To-Mera is an special case, I think it's the only band with female vocals that I actually like. I used to listen to them before a lot, but then I got tired, because I wanted something different than the usual Dream Theater-style or the ethereal one in Earthbound. This album have a new style, this motivated me to listen back to them.
The albums i listened more were Ne Obliviscaris, Enochian Theory, and Enslaved.
In RITIIR the atmosphere relies a bit too much in the vocals, I was expecting something like Axioma Ethica Odini. On the other hand, they improved their song structures. In the Silence debut looks promising. Enochian newer showed that they really reafirm their style, avoiding those harsh vocals that didn't fit on Evolution. I was following Ne Obliviscaris since their demo, their expected debut really blows me away.
And what about Ihshan's "Eremita"? i was extremely involved by this album, and i don't understan why it didn´t appear in the list.
Indeed, actually I voted on him in the Black Metal as a Write-in vote |
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| Obligatory "get over it"ing people complaining THEIR fave albums wasn't in for [cat] |
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Written by Iriki on 05.02.2013 at 22:51
Indeed, actually I voted on him in the Black Metal as a Write-in vote
He goes in Progressive. |
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Iriki - 06.02.2013 at 00:40
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Written by psykometal on 05.02.2013 at 22:59
Written by Iriki on 05.02.2013 at 22:51
Indeed, actually I voted on him in the Black Metal as a Write-in vote
He goes in Progressive.
It could be, but i chose putting him in Black Metal because I got so many favs in prog that I wouldn't have chosen him among them.
BTW, it was the same problem with Shining's lastest, which I didn't find as nominated in any category. ): |
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Written by Iriki on 06.02.2013 at 00:40
It could be, but i chose putting him in Black Metal because I got so many favs in prog that I wouldn't have chosen him among them.
BTW, it was the same problem with Shining's lastest, which I didn't find as nominated in any category. ):
That's all fine and dandy that you didn't want to put him in Progressive but that's the cat he goes in. This thread was setup to ask what cats albums go in so I'd advise using it. And Shining goes in Black metal BTW.
And that makes no sense to put Shining in Prog and Ihsahn in Black when Shining is more black than Ihsahn and Ihsahn is more prog than Shining... O.o |
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