Pestilence - Patrick Mameli Denies Racist Accusations, U.S. Tour Cancelled


Following a recent article on Metalsucks accusing Patrick Mameli of being racist, based on his reply to a fan's comment on Facebook back in 2017, the Pestilence frontman has responded with a detailed statement that you can read below.

Patrick Mameli wrote:

"Official statement: Pestilence nor myself are in any way a political band. We do not condone or support nazism or racism in any way. Pestilence exists only to create awesome music for our listeners and fans. We have many fans that know and have followed Pestilence since the beginning. We have never been a political band. Pestilence exists for over 30 years now and we have never had to deal with any accusations on being racist, supporting nazism or anything similar.

"On being a racist, 'for god's sake, my soon-to-be wife is ASIAN, how could I be racist? We LOVE our fans of all races, religious convictions and different beliefs. Being Dutch I can tell that what I said isn't racist at all. It's simply translated incorrectly. That word has no negative association in the Netherlands as the infamous n-word has in the US. There is a different inappropriate word in Dutch that is a better translation. All in all, this is nonsense of the highest order'.

"We will not let our good name be slandered by sites like MetalSucks, that are just out there to create chaos. Most people got our back on this one, but there seem to be some folks out there that still believe those BS stories. My words have been twisted and a ridiculous story was produced to make us look bad. Again: we are not a POLITICAL band. We entertain. That's all. Don't let your judgement be clouded by just a few people out there that want to slander bands for their own personal benefit. This time it's us, the next time it could be you or your band. Stop this madness. This way a lot of bands could get banned from the U.S. just because of false accusations and statements. We can not let this happen. The metal community needs to stand up against these type of sites!!!!
Patrick Mameli"

Patrick Mameli then went on to inform the band's fans that, as a result of this article, the scheduled Pestilence tour in the U.S. has been cancelled by the promoter. He commented: "Thanks to metalsucks and their followers, our US minitour has been cancelled by our U.S. promotor. We are saddened by this and how people believe a shady person, to say the least, over us/me. 30+ years of Death Metal, and never one accusation of racism, nazism or sexism. What a joke. Pestilence's line up has always been international. How can that be racist? Good job done metalsucks and the people involved in trying to slander us. Pestilence will remain with pride and dignity. We love ALL our fans worldwide. No matter race, culture or any difference. Together we stand tall.
Patrizio Mameli"



Photo posted by Patrick Mameli on his Facebook page


Source: facebook.com
Band profile: Pestilence
 
Posted: 28.07.2018 by nikarg


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28.07.2018 - 00:18
nikarg
Old Nick
Marcel can you please enlighten those of us who do not speak Dutch?
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28.07.2018 - 00:29
Maco
Handbanana
Metalcucks strikes again
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28.07.2018 - 04:52
SatanicBlood
It isn't much consolation, but as someone who's taken vacation in the Netherlands 3 years in a row for months at a time, that word got thrown around a lot.
I've asked about it and they gave me the same answer, "it doesn't have the weight that North America has because it's an English word and we are not English"
I won't defend their use but I when I heard it used, it wasn't said in a hateful manner. If that makes sense.
Edit: Mind you, this is also a country who celebrates Christmas in black face and there hasn't been much controversy over it besides foreigners stirring the pot.
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28.07.2018 - 10:03
qlacs
"The Quaker"
Metalsucks seriously, how low you can go?
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28.07.2018 - 10:58
dammage11
I'm really glad this site does not participate in all the drama clickbait bullshit. It seems like this and angrymetalguy are the only good metal blogs on the internet
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28.07.2018 - 12:09
BloodTears
ANA-thema
I don't get why MS is only now talk about something that happened in 2017.

I don't know if Mameli is racist or not but it seems awfully convenient to bring it up now that the U.S. tour is happening.
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28.07.2018 - 14:20
Captain Cumbeard
Written by nikarg on 28.07.2018 at 00:18

Marcel can you please enlighten those of us who do not speak Dutch?


The dutch word 'neger' translates litterally to the english word nigger. In The Netherlands the word neger holds the same meaning as African American, or coloured person.
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28.07.2018 - 15:25
SatanicBlood
Written by BloodTears on 28.07.2018 at 12:09

I don't get why MS is only now talk about something that happened in 2017.

I don't know if Mameli is racist or not but it seems awfully convenient to bring it up now that the U.S. tour is happening.
Becuase there's always going to be someone out there on the internet looking for dirt on someone else.
MS do this with spades.
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28.07.2018 - 15:49
nikarg
Old Nick
Written by Captain Cumbeard on 28.07.2018 at 14:20

The dutch word 'neger' translates litterally to the english word nigger. In The Netherlands the word neger holds the same meaning as African American, or coloured person.

So I guess Metalsucks used the facebook translation for Mameli's comment and made a whole fuss about it even though the word in Dutch does not have the offensive meaning that it has in English...
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28.07.2018 - 16:50
OpethFlames
Written by BloodTears on 28.07.2018 at 12:09

I don't get why MS is only now talk about something that happened in 2017.

I don't know if Mameli is racist or not but it seems awfully convenient to bring it up now that the U.S. tour is happening.

Do they find this and file it away until the band is about to tour or release a new album? They did the same shit with Taake before their US tour.
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28.07.2018 - 18:43
IBlackened
Written by Captain Cumbeard on 28.07.2018 at 14:20

The dutch word 'neger' translates litterally to the english word nigger. In The Netherlands the word neger holds the same meaning as African American, or coloured person.


But does it have the same negative connotation in dutch? Because in portuguese, the word black has the same meaning as it does in english, but (in Brazil at least) calling someone black is offensive.
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28.07.2018 - 18:53
EloZ
I can't believe it! Patrizio Mameli has italian origin from Sardegna, centre/south of Italy. The band had Marco Foddis, another guy from the same part of Italy (and recently count a guy from Venezuela, Santiago Dobles // also Tony Choy is Cuban American). He was born and lives in the Netherlands, a multicultural and free country in so many ways. How can some people's mystification of his words ruin the reputation of a band/guy never involved in something like racism? So sad! How long will we allow some bad journalism to destroy the hard work of good musicians. Even if it was true, we are talkin' about music, men! Everyone has the right to be what he wants to be. There are many ways to think in a free society. We don't condemn opinions in democracy, we fight actions that limits freedom and put other people in danger. We should fight crimes and prevent it, not ideas. Some ideas are good, some are bad. As an example, we don't fight religions, we fight the ones who use religion to do bad things to other people. If someone consider himself nazi, comunist, anarchist, oligarchist, satanist........has the right to be it. The problem begins when in reason of your belief you do something wrong to other people. In this particular case we are talkin' about nothing at all, not even ideas! So tell me how it is possible, in the year 2018, to cancel a tour for no reason. People should choose the concert to attend and the one to avoid. This is not right. Things have gone too far... Anyway, I'm gonna play "Testimony of the ancients" right now! Patrizio I'm with you and your music.
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28.07.2018 - 19:11
Kub
He's alt-right? That's actually worse than using N-word like an idiot. Not a political band but happy to support Trump and Fox News? Fuck him.
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28.07.2018 - 20:09
dammage11
Written by Kub on 28.07.2018 at 19:11

He's alt-right? That's actually worse than using N-word like an idiot. Not a political band but happy to support Trump and Fox News? Fuck him.


Just because you disagree with him does not mean that you should condemn him. That's the main issue with modern politics and why everyone is so divided, both sides propagating hate just because people believe differently
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29.07.2018 - 13:59
Kub
"Both sides the same" doesn't always work - vide Charlottesville. Political discourse is one thing, promoting hatred and bigotry is another.

MetalSucks has a followup on this, by the way:

http://www.metalsucks.net/2018/07/27/editorial-why-it-doesnt-matter-whether-or-not-patrick-mameli-used-the-n-word/
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29.07.2018 - 18:49
Maco
Handbanana
Written by Kub on 29.07.2018 at 13:59

http://www.metalsucks.net/2018/07/27/editorial-why-it-doesnt-matter-whether-or-not-patrick-mameli-used-the-n-word/

Not worth reading. It's metalsucks.
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29.07.2018 - 22:57
Magere Tijn
Written by Captain Cumbeard on 28.07.2018 at 14:20

Written by nikarg on 28.07.2018 at 00:18

Marcel can you please enlighten those of us who do not speak Dutch?


The dutch word 'neger' translates litterally to the english word nigger. In The Netherlands the word neger holds the same meaning as African American, or coloured person.

Well, it's not literally nigger, since the Dutch word for that is 'nikker'. Still, like you said, it has nowhere near the same meaning as nigger. Just some dudes trying to find dirt on others where there's no actual dirt to be found.
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30.07.2018 - 12:21
BloodTears
ANA-thema
Written by OpethFlames on 28.07.2018 at 16:50

Written by BloodTears on 28.07.2018 at 12:09

I don't get why MS is only now talk about something that happened in 2017.

I don't know if Mameli is racist or not but it seems awfully convenient to bring it up now that the U.S. tour is happening.

Do they find this and file it away until the band is about to tour or release a new album? They did the same shit with Taake before their US tour.


They are like the TMZ of metal, in that they seem to be always trying to find the dirt on people.

Some things might be true though, ofc.
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30.07.2018 - 12:23
BloodTears
ANA-thema
Written by nikarg on 28.07.2018 at 15:49

Written by Captain Cumbeard on 28.07.2018 at 14:20

The dutch word 'neger' translates litterally to the english word nigger. In The Netherlands the word neger holds the same meaning as African American, or coloured person.

So I guess Metalsucks used the facebook translation for Mameli's comment and made a whole fuss about it even though the word in Dutch does not have the offensive meaning that it has in English...


Nothing new for them...
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30.07.2018 - 20:54
Bad English
Masterchief
Another bullshit, a reason why people like Viktor Orban is more popular.
Today if you wear a black t shirt, you're a WP, maybe its time wake up and make Europe great again.... and now acuse me
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31.07.2018 - 22:00
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Racism is today being thrown away as a label on pretty much any person that is less politically correct than what the left wants you to be. The term has kinda lost its impact and gravity, and unfortunately the real racists can now get away with it.

I remember one of the many speeches that Denis Prager had when he mentioned how he would get demonized by marxist teachers before holding speeches in universities in colleges, being labeled racist, xenophobic, bigot or anti-Semite (although he is a jew) and only when teachers got to know he is a jew, they retracted the anti-semite accusations, but maintained all others.

Conservatism is the new real rebellion today. And it is needed more than ever. Back to the values that made the West great once upon a time.
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07.08.2018 - 23:08
ToxicGriever
When I entered his original comment in several translation websites "neger" translated to negro, not the other word. With that said, why do people bother with Metal Sucks?
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