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Posted by Azhidahak, 09.04.2008 - 15:53
By that I mean only the really old school death/doom and basically the founders of the sub genre. Bands such as: Winter, Sempiternal Deathreign, Cianide, Paradise Lost, diSEMBOWELMENT etc. are the first bands that comes to my mind (alongside the very early MDB).
25.11.2011 - 19:21
JÄY
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.11.2011 at 11:44

Written by JÄY on 25.11.2011 at 09:37

Slumber's Fallout - Amazing album


Pretty good album, but has almost nothing to do with old school death/doom.

Then we are in disagreement.....while it wasn't released alongside the oldschool classics, it is in the same style as old Katatonia so I think it's quite relevant
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25.11.2011 - 21:04
theflyingmachine

I checked out a few of the bands and they are mostly too slow-paced for my liking, although Cianide isn't bad. Which of their albums is the best?

Does Coffins fall into the Death/Doom genre? If so, they are good.
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25.11.2011 - 21:07
vezzy
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Written by theflyingmachine on 25.11.2011 at 21:04

I checked out a few of the bands and they are mostly too slow-paced for my liking, although Cianide isn't bad. Which of their albums is the best?


Their debut is essential.
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25.11.2011 - 21:16
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.11.2011 at 11:44
Pretty good album, but has almost nothing to do with old school death/doom.

Agreed. Too melodic and modernized to be considered an old school sounding release. The only Katatonia similarities I could hear are from their modern alt-rock/metal releases.
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25.11.2011 - 21:17
Slayer666

Written by JÄY on 25.11.2011 at 19:21

Then we are in disagreement.....while it wasn't released alongside the oldschool classics, it is in the same style as old Katatonia so I think it's quite relevant


Hm... The only Katatonia album this sounds like is Brave Murder Day, and I don't really consider that classic Death/Doom. Has a bit of it, fo' sure, but when someone says death/doom I think either Winter or Disembowelment and Slumber have little to nothing in common with them.
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25.11.2011 - 21:29
Troy Killjoy
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Written by theflyingmachine on 25.11.2011 at 21:04
Does Coffins fall into the Death/Doom genre? If so, they are good.

I would definitely say so.
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25.11.2011 - 21:30
JÄY
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.11.2011 at 21:17

Hm... The only Katatonia album this sounds like is Brave Murder Day, and I don't really consider that classic Death/Doom. Has a bit of it, fo' sure, but when someone says death/doom I think either Winter or Disembowelment and Slumber have little to nothing in common with them.

Thinking Brave Murder Day is not a classic Death/Doom album is definitely not a common opinion but your'e certainly entitled to it.
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25.11.2011 - 21:53
Troy Killjoy
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Well Brave Murder Day is classic death doom, but there's a difference in their sound. Brave Murder Day is death doom that is more reliant on doom, whereas something like Mental Funeral is death doom more reliant on death.

Marcel writes it as death/doom vs. doom/death, with the latter half of the genre being more prevalent in the sound.
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25.11.2011 - 22:13
theflyingmachine

Written by vezzy on 25.11.2011 at 21:07

Written by theflyingmachine on 25.11.2011 at 21:04

I checked out a few of the bands and they are mostly too slow-paced for my liking, although Cianide isn't bad. Which of their albums is the best?


Their debut is essential.

Thanks I will give that one a spin
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26.11.2011 - 00:27
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2011 at 21:53

Well Brave Murder Day is classic death doom, but there's a difference in their sound. Brave Murder Day is death doom that is more reliant on doom, whereas something like Mental Funeral is death doom more reliant on death.

Marcel writes it as death/doom vs. doom/death, with the latter half of the genre being more prevalent in the sound.


Yep Mental Funeral would be doom / death. Simple grammatical rule actually about the right element being the prevelant one. It's called "the right hand head rule" so the most right hand element is the strongest one.
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26.11.2011 - 00:32
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2011 at 21:53

Well Brave Murder Day is classic death doom, but there's a difference in their sound. Brave Murder Day is death doom that is more reliant on doom, whereas something like Mental Funeral is death doom more reliant on death.

Marcel writes it as death/doom vs. doom/death, with the latter half of the genre being more prevalent in the sound.



it's much easier to distinguish between old Katatonia and old Anathema and such on the one hand and Winter and diSEMBOWELMENT and Coffins and Cianide and such on the other hand
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26.11.2011 - 01:20
!J.O.O.E.!
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Posted this yesterday but then deleted it as I wasn't sure it was appropriate. What the hey, it's rare I like some some old school death and dunno where else to put it.

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26.11.2011 - 13:43
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Guest on 26.11.2011 at 01:20

Posted this yesterday but then deleted it as I wasn't sure it was appropriate. What the hey, it's rare I like some some old school death and dunno where else to put it.


But I don't hear any doom in their sound on the songs I checke by them
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26.11.2011 - 18:03
!J.O.O.E.!
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Nope, that's why I deleted the post yesterday. Thought I'd chuck 'em here anyway ;]
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26.11.2011 - 18:03
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Guest on 26.11.2011 at 18:03

Nope, that's why I deleted the post yesterday. Thought I'd chuck 'em here anyway ;]


chuck em in an old school death metal thread
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28.11.2011 - 03:35
@gent_-_orange

Hooded Menace are very good Death/Doom that you should check out if you havent already.
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28.11.2011 - 03:50
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by @gent_-_orange on 28.11.2011 at 03:35

Hooded Menace are very good Death/Doom that you should check out if you havent already.


Great band, but on album better than live, unfortunately.
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29.11.2011 - 03:52
Thyroid

Karelian Isthmus by Amorphis might just fit the profile.
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29.11.2011 - 04:05
Troy Killjoy
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Fuck yes that's a great album. Amorphis' best by far.
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11.12.2011 - 03:49
Lord Clamhandler

Check out DEHUMANIZED...old school death metal from New York.

http://youtu.be/ILDujrUEfX4
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11.12.2011 - 16:26
theflyingmachine

Written by Lord Clamhandler on 11.12.2011 at 03:49

Check out DEHUMANIZED...old school death metal from New York.

http://youtu.be/ILDujrUEfX4

I started a thread for Dehumanized a year or two ago and didn't get too many replies. Prophecies Foretold is a classic album and they deserve more respect. But, I'm not sure that they really fall into the death/doom category.
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11.12.2011 - 17:58
Lord Clamhandler

The band appreciates the kind words, flyingmachine, and yes, Prophecies is definitely a classic.
The new Dehumanized material is picking up right where that album left off, you'll really dig it.
Thanks again for all the support!
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12.12.2011 - 20:19
metalheadpunk
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Hmmm, what about Saint Vitus or Sleep? Those are some of the first doom metal bands i ever listened to. As for The Sword, are they considered doom metal?
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12.12.2011 - 20:21
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Guest on 12.12.2011 at 20:19
Hmmm, what about Saint Vitus or Sleep? Those are some of the first doom metal bands i ever listened to. As for The Sword, are they considered doom metal?

This thread is for death doom, not traditional doom.
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12.12.2011 - 20:32
metalheadpunk
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.12.2011 at 20:21

Written by Guest on 12.12.2011 at 20:19
Hmmm, what about Saint Vitus or Sleep? Those are some of the first doom metal bands i ever listened to. As for The Sword, are they considered doom metal?

This thread is for death doom, not traditional doom.


Ah my bad haha.
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13.12.2011 - 17:54
Lit.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.12.2011 at 20:21

Written by Guest on 12.12.2011 at 20:19
Hmmm, what about Saint Vitus or Sleep? Those are some of the first doom metal bands i ever listened to. As for The Sword, are they considered doom metal?

This thread is for death doom, not traditional doom.


They're traditional? I thought they were stoner?
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13.12.2011 - 18:21
vezzy
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Sleep are Sabbath-y though, even if stoner.
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13.12.2011 - 20:20
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Guest on 13.12.2011 at 17:54
They're traditional? I thought they were stoner?

Oh no that was just a generalization - as in doom that isn't death doom.

I forget "traditional doom" is a genre sometimes. Since it sounds the exact same as just "doom", but I guess since it's like "old" doom then it needs its own adjective. >>
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13.07.2012 - 19:56
Aristarchos

These are album I really love, although more death metal than doom:

Sororicide - The Entity
Cemetary - An Evil Shade Of Grey/Godless Beauty
Convulse - World Without God
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16.07.2012 - 18:46
Wanhoop

I'm looking for a label to release the first full-album of Wanhoop.

Wanhoop released a split-album back in 2004 on NephereX and did a couple
of shows with bands as Shining, Forgotten Tomb& even My Dying Bride (on
a festival).

I recorded some cross-fading streams of new tracks and put it into a
youtube video, so the listener can have a sneak preview of the style in
2 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhrt_vUbFII&feature=plcp

We still have to record the album for real.

Feedback is always appreciated.
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