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Stats problem that's getting on my nerves.



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01.06.2008 - 17:12
-tom-
Mr FancyPants
How would you work out the answer to this:

There is a ball pit. 20% of the balls are blue. If you are blindfolded and select 5 balls at random, what are the chances that at least one is blue?


Sorry, it seems like a bit of a pointless thread but it's really bothering me. If someone can tell me the answer and how you would find it, then I'd be eternally grateful.
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01.06.2008 - 17:29
Stalker
Lone wanderer
Damn, Im to lazy to think now, but there is actually a mathematical furmula for that.... If I fond it ill post it...
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01.06.2008 - 17:35
Sunioj
To me it still seems like 20%.
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01.06.2008 - 18:18
-tom-
Mr FancyPants
It'd be 20% chance if you only tookone ball, but what if you took 5? It can't simply be 100% as most people would initially think.
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01.06.2008 - 18:56
Buggy
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Basically, you have to detract from 100% the probability that none of the balls you took is blue. That is (4/5)^5 = approx. 0.33. So 1-0.33=0.67= 67%
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01.06.2008 - 19:00
Lucas
Mr. Noise
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Written by -tom- on 01.06.2008 at 17:12

How would you work out the answer to this:

There is a ball pit. 20% of the balls are blue. If you are blindfolded and select 5 balls at random, what are the chances that at least one is blue?

Sorry, it seems like a bit of a pointless thread but it's really bothering me. If someone can tell me the answer and how you would find it, then I'd be eternally grateful.


I just had an entire exam about shit like this. That was last week, and seriously, I am completely baffled. (Ok, I failed the test anyway, but still, I should remember this).
But let me think for a second...

For the record: P = chance
P(at least one is blue) = P(a maximum of 4 balls is non-blue)

Which can be calculated with a Cumulative Binomial Distribution. So let me get my calculator.
Now we should fill in:

N = 5 (number of tries)
P = 0.8 (chance of succes, i.e. a non-blue ball)
X = 4 (the number of succeses, i.e. a non-blue ball)

binomcdf(5, 0.8, 4) = 0.67232

So I think the answer you are looking for is 0.67232. But as I said, I am not sure. So don't pin me down on it.

EDIT: It comes quite close to Buggy's reasoning, so I guess what I did was the (one of) the right way(s).
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01.06.2008 - 19:39
Buggy
Account deleted
It was just the long way around The tiny difference in results is merely due to the fact that I used approximation.
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01.06.2008 - 20:17
Necrogeddon
Born Too Late
woooow im so glad i didnt take statistics haha! i dont really get any of it....
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