Everyday we hear about conflicts all around the world, and there are just more and more of them. One of the most recent was (is) the war in Georgia, in which Russia was also engaged. Being that Russia and its rival USA are probably 2 dominant world forces, we could even see the "3rd world war" and similar phrases being mentioned. My opinion is that the 3rd world war, or any such large scale conflict isnt likely in the near future, but something is definitely going on.

The aforementioned Russian-Georgian conflict, in spite of US and NATO's attempts make Russian to retreat, both Russian and US war ships at the Black Sea, NATO's anti-rocket shield at Russian doorstep, and rising tensions between two leading military forces, all remind me of the Cold War provocations, nuclear parades, weapon racing and similar things. So, what do you think, could this be the beginning of the "2nd Cold War"??

I don't think there will be a war between Russia and the USA. Russia is not stong enough, yet. They want to occupy eastern-europe firstly. (not by weapons but economically) after that maybe there will be a war again but i hope there won't be untill I'm alive.

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Written by Fhuesc on 28.08.2008 at 08:49

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Yeah, it was between western countries, NATO, and Eastern Bloc, and we dont have communism in Russia today, nor the Berlin wall, but today we have still have opposite interests between the 2 sides, and what was Berlin wall once, today is anti rocked shield (in some sense) but moved further, into the territory of the former Soviet Union, which of course isnt what Russia wants.

Written by Stalker on 27.08.2008 at 23:30

Everyday we hear about conflicts all around the world, and there are just more and more of them. One of the most recent was (is) the war in Georgia, in which Russia was also engaged. Being that Russia and its rival USA are probably 2 dominant world forces, we could even see the "3rd world war" and similar phrases being mentioned. My opinion is that the 3rd world war, or any such large scale conflict isnt likely in the near future, but something is definitely going on.

The aforementioned Russian-Georgian conflict, in spite of US and NATO's attempts make Russian to retreat, both Russian and US war ships at the Black Sea, NATO's anti-rocket shield at Russian doorstep, and rising tensions between two leading military forces, all remind me of the Cold War provocations, nuclear parades, weapon racing and similar things. So, what do you think, could this be the beginning of the "2nd Cold War"??

1)Frodo dónt quote me

2)Man Ukraina sad Russia shood take them ships away from Cerno Moro , and If Ukariana be NATO , I hope thay bouth whit Georgia be soon, then I dont know what hepens , but generaly Russia are alone whit his politics , thay has no supporters like EU and NATO , and Russian politcs are so old and retired, thay shood live in 21th century not after WWII

It was so hilarious to see Mrs.Rice, Sarkzoy and rest of the "crew" whine about breaking of international law by Russian recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia just few months after they did exactly the same With Serbian province of Kosovo which was Serbian cultural heritage for 10 centuries, haha, when Serbian medieval country was found on Kosovo, America was no even a planned country. Also, it is funny how everyone complain about Russians invasion of S.Ossetia while Georgians attacked Russian soldiers with backing of western "democracy", retards are easy to manipulate. Hopefully my country will never recognize Kosovo as an independent state and stay allied with fellow nation. This bitching game between Israel and United States and Russia should not be our concern, haha, hilarious thing, Georgians warns about new Bolshevism and Soviet Imperialism while the main responsible for all of that, mr.Stalin was Georgian himself haha

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Written by Guest on 29.08.2008 at 15:59

It was so hilarious to see Mrs.Rice, Sarkzoy and rest of the "crew" whine about breaking of international law by Russian recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia just few months after they did exactly the same With Serbian province of Kosovo which was Serbian cultural heritage for 10 centuries, haha, when Serbian medieval country was found on Kosovo, America was no even a planned country. Also, it is funny how everyone complain about Russians invasion of S.Ossetia while Georgians attacked Russian soldiers with backing of western "democracy", retards are easy to manipulate. Hopefully my country will never recognize Kosovo as an independent state and stay allied with fellow nation. This bitching game between Israel and United States and Russia should not be our concern, haha, hilarious thing, Georgians warns about new Bolshevism and Soviet Imperialism while the main responsible for all of that, mr.Stalin was Georgian himself haha

You can not say nothing about 50 and 60 it was diferent times diferent political situation and remeber your parents born in Cehoslovakia(or Yugoslavia) whatever, it dont pay rolle, maybe I spend 5 childish years in USSR didnt saw what shit was in 60's but I always will say thank's to America , even for osmebody its be unfair and IMO only unfair USA attack in history was to Iraq

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You can not say nothing about 50 and 60 it was diferent times diferent political situation

I can say everything that I need is important to be said, yours is to prove me wrong with arguments and facts and not by your rambling which I am not sure I even understood correctly, if you already bring that up I would care if you write why it was different, human lives were cheaper back than or what? OR America have a license to bomb and kill whoever and whenever they think they should? Mess into others people business and loose their soldiers in countries they would never go even in a dream? Loose millions of dollars on wars they could have spent to fix at least dozens of problems in their own country? What changed mister? Please don't quote me if you are not ready to discuss it with argument and facts and not on your free notice.

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and remeber your parents born in Cehoslovakia(or Yugoslavia) whatever

Not me or my parents were born in Czechoslovakia and especially not in Yugoslavia since Yugoslavia existed since 1992 to 2003, do your homework before posting crap, if you mean on Socialist Yugoslavia it had a different name. And even if they or me were, what does it really have to do with your "points"?!

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it dont pay rolle, maybe I spend 5 childish years in USSR didnt saw what shit was in 60's but I always will say thank's to America

Dude, I am not trying to put you down or anything, BUT, what the fuck are you talking about?! Thanks to America for what? For more wars and hatred in the world? For trying o establish new world order in which you would be just a mindless zombie in the line? What? What? What are you talking about? Do you know who started problems in the middle east anyway?

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even for osmebody its be unfair and IMO only unfair USA attack in history was to Iraq

Again, Seriously WHAT? ROFL I'll skip first part since I obviously have no clue what is the point in it, about the 2nd part... I will just say I am really sorry for you. Each and every attack was unfair and not of their business, anyway, I wonder what Children who are grown up now and whose fathers died in some Vietnamese swamp or Somalian dust have to say to you, but yeah dude, they had to do it for their nations, otherwise Vietnamese or Serbs would conquer United States, raped their woman and kill their pets, so yeah, they had to prevent that by bombing and killing thousands of those 6 years old children who would surely burn white house when they are 18.

Written by Stalker on 28.08.2008 at 13:03

Written by Fhuesc on 28.08.2008 at 08:49

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Yeah, it was between western countries, NATO, and Eastern Bloc, and we dont have communism in Russia today, nor the Berlin wall, but today we have still have opposite interests between the 2 sides, and what was Berlin wall once, today is anti rocked shield (in some sense) but moved further, into the territory of the former Soviet Union, which of course isnt what Russia wants.

There isn't opposite interests, it's the same interest... OIL!!!, did you watched the 007 movie where the whole mess it's about an oilduct, well that's exactly what's happening now. The missile shield it's just an excuse, kinda the weapons of mass destruction on Irak.

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 00:42

Written by Stalker on 28.08.2008 at 13:03

Written by Fhuesc on 28.08.2008 at 08:49

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Yeah, it was between western countries, NATO, and Eastern Bloc, and we dont have communism in Russia today, nor the Berlin wall, but today we have still have opposite interests between the 2 sides, and what was Berlin wall once, today is anti rocked shield (in some sense) but moved further, into the territory of the former Soviet Union, which of course isnt what Russia wants.

There isn't opposite interests, it's the same interest... OIL!!!, did you watched the 007 movie where the whole mess it's about an oilduct, well that's exactly what's happening now. The missile shield it's just an excuse, kinda the weapons of mass destruction on Irak.

Bullshit. When did Russia occupy any country because of oil?? Russia is the main energy exporter for Europe, they dont need anybody's oil... USA on the other hand, had war in every country where you can find oil or anything similar...

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 00:48

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 00:42

Written by Stalker on 28.08.2008 at 13:03

Written by Fhuesc on 28.08.2008 at 08:49

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Yeah, it was between western countries, NATO, and Eastern Bloc, and we dont have communism in Russia today, nor the Berlin wall, but today we have still have opposite interests between the 2 sides, and what was Berlin wall once, today is anti rocked shield (in some sense) but moved further, into the territory of the former Soviet Union, which of course isnt what Russia wants.

There isn't opposite interests, it's the same interest... OIL!!!, did you watched the 007 movie where the whole mess it's about an oilduct, well that's exactly what's happening now. The missile shield it's just an excuse, kinda the weapons of mass destruction on Irak.

Bullshit. When did Russia occupy any country because of oil?? Russia is the main energy exporter for Europe, they dont need anybody's oil... USA on the other hand, had war in every country where you can find oil or anything similar...

Exactly!!! Russia is the main energy exporter to Europe since it's the country that control the oilducts, and Georgia it's a very important country if someone wants to make new oilducts. so USA wants these new oilducts secured cuz it'll bring an enormous amount of money and will give them a huge control over Europe. And Russia wants to remain as the principal energy exporter for the same reasons that USA.

See?, they have the same interests cuz they have the same ideology (Capitalism) that's why this isn't a 2nd Cold War.

theres no new cold war.

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 01:05

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 00:48

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 00:42

Written by Stalker on 28.08.2008 at 13:03

Written by Fhuesc on 28.08.2008 at 08:49

No, it can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War. The Cold War was not only a war between the URSS and the US, it was a propaganda war and a war fought in different places, but nor the URSS or USA had anything official to do with most of them, and third it's was a war between to different social ideologies, and since non of this elements is present here, that's why it can't be called a 2nd Cold War.

Yeah, it was between western countries, NATO, and Eastern Bloc, and we dont have communism in Russia today, nor the Berlin wall, but today we have still have opposite interests between the 2 sides, and what was Berlin wall once, today is anti rocked shield (in some sense) but moved further, into the territory of the former Soviet Union, which of course isnt what Russia wants.

There isn't opposite interests, it's the same interest... OIL!!!, did you watched the 007 movie where the whole mess it's about an oilduct, well that's exactly what's happening now. The missile shield it's just an excuse, kinda the weapons of mass destruction on Irak.

Bullshit. When did Russia occupy any country because of oil?? Russia is the main energy exporter for Europe, they dont need anybody's oil... USA on the other hand, had war in every country where you can find oil or anything similar...

Exactly!!! Russia is the main energy exporter to Europe since it's the country that control the oilducts, and Georgia it's a very important country if someone wants to make new oilducts. so USA wants these new oilducts secured cuz it'll bring an enormous amount of money and will give them a huge control over Europe. And Russia wants to remain as the principal energy exporter for the same reasons that USA.

See?, they have the same interests cuz they have the same ideology (Capitalism) that's why this isn't a 2nd Cold War.

OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 12:51

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Yes, I think you are probably the first one to understand what I wanted to say. (probably my not so great English vocabulary is fault for that, but ok )

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 12:51

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Yes, the methods are similar, but the ideology don't, and that's what really meant the Cold War, a fight between two different socioeconomic systems. That's why i'm saying that this problem can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War.

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 19:05

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 12:51

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Yes, the methods are similar, but the ideology don't, and that's what really meant the Cold War, a fight between two different socioeconomic systems. That's why i'm saying that this problem can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War.

Yes, but I didnt think of it as a continuation of Cold War, the name just suits very well.

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 19:05

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 12:51

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Yes, the methods are similar, but the ideology don't, and that's what really meant the Cold War, a fight between two different socioeconomic systems. That's why i'm saying that this problem can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War.

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 23:20

Written by Fhuesc on 31.08.2008 at 19:05

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 12:51

Written by Stalker on 31.08.2008 at 11:34


OK, well here you pretty much supported what I want to say, but you probably didnt understand my post well, since I didnt think of it as literary Cold War 2, as communism vs capitalism thing, space and nuclear race, and stuff like that, but something on a similar level that will result in further hostilities between the 2, but in this "peaceful" manner rather than in some direct war between those 2.

Exactly, there doesn't have to be any opposing interests for something to be a cold war. A cold war actaully means more a war of words and arms race than actual attacks on each other.

Yes, the methods are similar, but the ideology don't, and that's what really meant the Cold War, a fight between two different socioeconomic systems. That's why i'm saying that this problem can't be labeled as a 2nd Cold War.

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

yeah, and as long as you don't harm us for liking The Black Album, it's not a "hot" war

basically a cold war is a 'wierd' war: there isn't any offensive action and stuff, it only uses words and intimidation tactics(this could be a purpose for the invasion of Georgia, like the russians wanted to say "hey, we're still here, and we've got a big army so NATO, don't fuck with us")

and i do agree that with the missile shield to protect europe from the supposed weapons of mass destruction of Iran is just a silly excuse, the real aim is to intimidate the russians, and the fact that Ukraine and Georgia are all of a sudden worthy candidates for joining NATO... please. years ago no-one gave a shit about them, now that the russians invaded Abhazia and Osetia, they're all in (quote Condoleeza Rice) "because the countries are in favor of it"... no shit! how stupid does she think we are?? i'm sure Turkey or Moldavia or other coutries would like to join in, how are Ukraine and Georgia any different? it's pretty much a plan to isolate the russians by taking away one of the most powerful countries that were part of the USSR, Ukraine, and i might be wrong, but an aim of this plan could be also to stop the black sea from becoming, like a historian once said, a "Russian Lake"....

Written by Valentin B on 01.09.2008 at 00:35

yeah, and as long as you don't harm us for liking The Black Album, it's not a "hot" war

basically a cold war is a 'wierd' war: there isn't any offensive action and stuff, it only uses words and intimidation tactics(this could be a purpose for the invasion of Georgia, like the russians wanted to say "hey, we're still here, and we've got a big army so NATO, don't fuck with us")

and i do agree that with the missile shield to protect europe from the supposed weapons of mass destruction of Iran is just a silly excuse, the real aim is to intimidate the russians, and the fact that Ukraine and Georgia are all of a sudden worthy candidates for joining NATO... please. years ago no-one gave a shit about them, now that the russians invaded Abhazia and Osetia, they're all in (quote Condoleeza Rice) "because the countries are in favor of it"... no shit! how stupid does she think we are?? i'm sure Turkey or Moldavia or other coutries would like to join in, how are Ukraine and Georgia any different? it's pretty much a plan to isolate the russians by taking away one of the most powerful countries that were part of the USSR, Ukraine, and i might be wrong, but an aim of this plan could be also to stop the black sea from becoming, like a historian once said, a "Russian Lake"....

Pretty much, yeah.
And if they reeealy want to put a missile shield, I think it would be far more reasonable to put it in Israel (which is closer to Iran-Iraq-Afganistan, whatever) and is anyway one of the biggest US allies. But heeey, that waqy it wouldnt be in under Russians nose...

Written by Stalker on 01.09.2008 at 00:44

Pretty much, yeah.
And if they reeealy want to put a missile shield, I think it would be far more reasonable to put it in Israel (which is closer to Iran-Iraq-Afganistan, whatever) and is anyway one of the biggest US allies. But heeey, that waqy it wouldnt be in under Russians nose...

and they wouldn't want to draw more unnecesary attention to the lack of weapons of mass destruction that Iran has, right?

i mean how in the name of fuck can anyone develop a nuclear bomb, test it and stuff without the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD going completely apeshit?? with the sattelite technology we have these days i could spot a nuclear explosion in Google Earth if i wanted to, FFS.

Written by Valentin B on 01.09.2008 at 00:49

Written by Stalker on 01.09.2008 at 00:44

Pretty much, yeah.
And if they reeealy want to put a missile shield, I think it would be far more reasonable to put it in Israel (which is closer to Iran-Iraq-Afganistan, whatever) and is anyway one of the biggest US allies. But heeey, that waqy it wouldnt be in under Russians nose...

and they wouldn't want to draw more unnecesary attention to the lack of weapons of mass destruction that Iran has, right?

i mean how in the name of fuck can anyone develop a nuclear bomb, test it and stuff without the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD going completely apeshit?? with the sattelite technology we have these days i could spot a nuclear explosion in Google Earth if i wanted to, FFS.

Well, it would be Iraq like scenario: Fuck the hell out of a country, kill bunch of people, and say "wooops! they didnt have any mass destruction weapons after all!!" . "but hey, from now on, you live in democracy!!! yeah. what ever that is"

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL87549220080908

After US navy ships in the Black Sea, Russians announce they will send their nuclear battle ship, one of the biggest war ships in the world, to Caribbean sea, for a joint military exercise with Venezuela. It is the first time since Cold War for such maneuvers to take place in the Washington's sphere or interest.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 23:20

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

Well lets differ, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

Written by Fhuesc on 08.09.2008 at 21:43

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 23:20

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

Well lets differ, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

Blaaah, if you mind it that much, name it better and Ill change the topic name.... But ok, we didnt really need that link, we are aware of what Cold War is.. (was)... Naturally you wont see "Cold War 2" page on Wikipedia...

Written by Stalker on 08.09.2008 at 21:49

Written by Fhuesc on 08.09.2008 at 21:43

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 23:20

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

Well lets differ, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

Blaaah, if you mind it that much, name it better and Ill change the topic name.... But ok, we didnt really need that link, we are aware of what Cold War is.. (was)... Naturally you wont see "Cold War 2" page on Wikipedia...

How about USA vs Russia: the current conflict.

Written by Fhuesc on 08.09.2008 at 22:01

Written by Stalker on 08.09.2008 at 21:49

Written by Fhuesc on 08.09.2008 at 21:43

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.08.2008 at 23:20

The term Corld War has noting to do with ideology, somehow you think it does but it doesn't at all. I, f.e. can have a cold war concerning whatever with eveyone else. I don't know nwhere you got the idea that it has to do with opposing ideologies,
Hell, in everyday life and language I can be in a cold war with every single one of you concerning Metallica's music.

Well lets differ, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

Blaaah, if you mind it that much, name it better and Ill change the topic name.... But ok, we didnt really need that link, we are aware of what Cold War is.. (was)... Naturally you wont see "Cold War 2" page on Wikipedia...

How about USA vs Russia: the current conflict.

Well, there is still no conflict, nor anything officially "US vs Rus" yet... Nevermind that.... Back on topic, who has anything to say...

Well, with Russian ships and strategic bombers sailing and flying towards Venezuela, the stuff that's been going on since August 8th reminds me of Cold War. You know, USA and Russia not attacking each other, but arguing about virtually anything, calling each other imperialists and so forth, and engaging in conflicts in other small countries to defend their own interests and harm the interests of the other side... I dunno, but I think Cold War never actually ended, it simply died down after the USSR collapsed and Yeltsin came to power and was spending considerable time drinking rather than leading the country... USA is all too scared of Russia (everyone should be afraid of Russia's nuclear arsenal, or anyone's nuclear arsenal for that matter) now that the Russians started to fight for their own interests once again, and naturally, the conflicts are to start all over again.

Russian bombers meet 2 U.S. F 15 fighters, near the coast of Iceland, also NATO member, where US units have base. Read further: http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/01/russia.pentagon/

I simply hope this "rivalry" will never go on full scale, plus don't forget that the contemporary world has more "middle" or "big" powers than 20 years ago. USA and Russia should not forget the presence of the European Union, China, India, Brazil, Iran and whatever. The situation is on a very thin line of balance, but I suppose that no country is going to do the "first move". At least, I hope so XD A war this big would be a serious catastrophe