Do you think metal fans are more intelligent than the average person?
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Posted by Haddonfield, 20.07.2009 - 01:55
PS: A mate made me notice the same thing with left handed people. Every year the proportion of left handed people in the class tended to rise, I remember one lesson when there were more lefthanded people than right handed and that is not natural.
| CyberSymphony Ollie Posts: 673  |
I think this is an interesting topic, I knew a girl from my secondary/high school, and she listened to metal (mostly heavy/thrash and death metal) and she graduated with high grades in nearly all of her subjects. I listened to metal in half of my time in school and mostly studied/revised at home with metal music playing. On the other hand, I have worked with people who listen to music from popular music charts who are fricking stupid. It kinda works either way in my opinion.
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| nasmith Posts: 113  |
Written by Mattybu on 16.03.2013 at 19:06 I mean, people have been citing honors students who listen to metal as a measure of their intelligence, when in reality the same can be said about grades in school. If you push your ass off to get good grades, then you can do it even if you don't have as high of intelligence per se than that Einstein who sits in the back of the room and daydreams about quantum physics instead of paying attention to the history class he's failing.
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| Skøllgrim Northern Posts: 389  |
I think the term metalhead or metal fan doesn't do justice to the various people contained in it. There's idiots as well as geniuses within the realm of metal, and a lot more comes into play than just being a metal fan. It depends where you are from, what kind of metal you're into and much more. I know this sounds like stereotyping, but honestly though... shit matters.
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 61010  |
Doesnt seems so http://thebatavian.com/howard-owens/arrests-and-citations-reported-mayhem-festival-darien-lake/38447 BTW why media publish names, but same time pfedoffil names are hidden?
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| Sinfonia Posts: 38  |
I don't think metalheads are more intelligent, I think they're more open minded, which is good. More people should be
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| Azarath Free as a.. Fish Posts: 959  |
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| Mattybu Posts: 2589  |
Written by Sinfonia on 12.08.2013 at 23:30 I would have to disagree with you there. Speaking only musically and not in other areas of life anyways. I think metalheads would be some of the first people to dismiss some of the great hip-hop, jazz, pop, and multitude of other genres with good tunes to be found. That's just my personal speculation.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
Written by Mattybu on 13.08.2013 at 21:19 maybe just because they don't like it? That doesn't mean they are close minded. Open minded doesn't mean you like more than one genre, it means you give everything a fair chance.
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| Mattybu Posts: 2589 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.08.2013 at 21:46 I was more getting at not giving it a fair chance. Obviously you can still be open minded and not like stuff, the word(s) doesn't imply you have to like everything. Here is an example. Picture a guy wearing a Pantera shirt with a flame design on it hanging around at a metal show. I can see that guy saying, when asked, what do you think of pop music, "FUCK THAT SHIT ITS NOT FUCKIN HEAVY ENOUGH YEAH1!! RIP DIMEBAG!!! FUCK!!" Meanwhile, probably hasn't actually given the genre as a whole a chance, and it could be replaced with other genres too. Of course I am generalizing and not every metalhead is closed minded and not every Pantera fan is braindead (only about 95%) but thats basically the angle I was coming from. And maybe I am wrong too, I don't know  its just my best guess.
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| Vombatus Potorro Posts: 2355  |
Concerning metal, you have idiots and geniuses alike. Hmmmm like anywhere else, duh. But we know that some metalheads like to think they are totally unique, singular and free compared to the so called "normal people" and bring up stupid ideas and statistics to try to prove how awesome we are. This is one of those threads....
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| Góral Combo Breaker Posts: 490  |
Written by CyberSymphony on 16.03.2013 at 19:15 Damn, and I lose my precious time to learning. All I need is just to listen more metal. And I really need to start listening to more heavy/thrash and death, because black and doom doesn't help in study so far. However, a really interesting theory 
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| Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha Posts: 6815  |
Written by Góral on 14.08.2013 at 09:46 Did you try hip hop? 'Em stuff? i think it gonna help you more rather than listening to thrash/death or doom stuff while studying.
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| Góral Combo Breaker Posts: 490 |
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 14.08.2013 at 10:59 And what is so special in hip hop?
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| Spirit Molecule spirit molecule Posts: 1918  |
Looking through this thread I would have to say no 
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| Thrashette Posts: 624  |
On the topic of metalheads being more open-minded, I think it takes some level of open-mindedness to give metal a fair chance in the first place. One could also argue that metal helps you expand your taste in music. For instance, I hated the sound of opera vocals when I was younger, but symphonic metal got me to like them. Folk metal helped me appreciate actual folk music and all the exotic instruments that come with it. And just about everyone who's been listening to metal for a while will say that they started off being mostly into one subgenre (usually one of the more catchy or melodic ones) and then had their music taste expand to other subgenres. Written by Mattybu on 13.08.2013 at 21:19 I will agree that metal has a lot of these people as well. Some metalheads have a very narrow comfort zone, sometimes to the point of only liking one subgenre of metal. Then again, every genre will have some people who refuse to listen to any other music. My brother is really into rap and we used to argue every day and dismiss each other's taste in music as shit when we were younger. But as we grew up, we "agreed to disagree" and learnt to respect each other's music. A lot of the metalheads who dismiss other genres as shit are young or immature people who are going through their "elitist" phase or just fed up with the equally immature people in other scenes saying that metal is just screaming, hitting random notes, and worshipping Satan.
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| CyberSymphony Ollie Posts: 673 |
Written by Góral on 14.08.2013 at 09:46 I starting listening to Metal half way through my school life, though I hated nearly all of school and came out was only a few good grades. Up to now, I like to listen to alot of atmospheric or 'themed' metal when I'm studying. I have to say electronic/trance music helps me with stuff like that too. May not work for others though.
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| Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 61010 |
I think metal heads are more open mindet because they are modern and free from old conservative way of thunking and also many are athesists and unbelievers, some complain they are satanists or like facebook pick what I saw where was written hail to satin (under was I prefere silk) son some of them are satinists, many are free od old bullshit and it make person open mindet
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| Thrashette Posts: 624 |
Written by Bad English on 14.08.2013 at 21:15 That is true, but it doesn't apply to every metalhead (some of them actually are religious or conservative) and some of those people are at the point of being just as closed minded as the typical conservative old fashioned people that they claim to be the opposite of. I'm referring to those people who are atheists/satanists to the point of criticizing others for being Christian/Muslim/whatever and assuming that all of those types of people are stupid and closed minded. Of course there are religious people like that, but extremists only represent a minority. I'm sure it differs in other places, but I actually have met many religious people who are nice and open minded. It's very much like people who claim to be so unique, rebellious, and open minded but are really just conforming with another clique and shunning everyone who's different from them, another thing very often seen among young/immature metalheads.
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| Mr. Blonde Posts: 66  |
Intelligent is way too broad of a descriptor. Open mindedness is also too general. Metalheads just like any other fans of any other subculture have both ends of the open/close minded spectrum and everything in between. I think metal fans are more BOLD! Why are we more bold? Because we are willing to travel the roads less traveled. Experience listening material that is more challenging and stimulating than what most people are used to and more than what some people can even handle.
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| Schizoid6.6 Posts: 39  |
It's all far too vague to determine. Just like the questions 'are atheists more smarter than theist?' or are vegetarians smarter than meat-eaters? We can't generalize just becuase we may have encountered people who seem intelligent and carry a certain preference. However, playing and instrument will help restore the connections in the brain and generate new brain cells which can improve spatial skills and memory. It takes a lot more effort to play than to listen.
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 668  |
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| Góral Combo Breaker Posts: 490 |
Written by Guest on 17.09.2013 at 19:26 Short and to the point.
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| CobiWan1993 Secundum Filium Posts: 1364  |
No, they aren't anymore or less intelligent than the average person, I've seen my fair share of both smart and dumb metal heads.
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| CobiWan1993 Secundum Filium Posts: 1364 |
Written by Guest on 12.11.2013 at 01:21 Yep, I've seen a ton at those places for sure.
---- Ordinary men hate solitude. But the Master makes use of it, embracing his aloneness, realizing he is one with the whole universe (Lao Tzu).
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| SolracV Posts: 19  |
I'd say yes and no. No, because your music tastes don't determine your intelligence and your perspective towards life. Influences from social, cultural, political and educational occurrences do. Yes, because, in a way, Metal exhorts you to gather knowledge and discover, let it be through the lyrics, through the songwriting or through the people. Metal is one of those genres that actually makes you question towards anything in life, where it might impact you enough to cause change, your curiosity might impulse you to actually learn and find out the many topics within Metal, musically and socially. I guess that's why many Metalheads are deemed as 'smarter'. The Metal genre relates the issues we face throughout life and makes us wonder and question. Moreover, the music that Metal transcends is one of power and emotion.
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). For example, Sunn O))), who play drone metal, try to play minimalist guitar music played so loudly that it gives the audience a drowsy feeling, kind of like meditation (thus it's no surprise that they get a lot of hipsters at their shows as well as metalheads). That's the kind of stuff that makes you think: Is this metal? is this even music? I personally would be interested in going to a gig by them as much as a death metal gig.