"Do you like female vocalists in metal bands?"
The answer for me is simple: no. Not at all.

About this:

Written by F0rang3l on 12.08.2010 at 13:34

It seems symphonic metal is the best option for female vocalists.

Most of the bands people refer to as 'symphonic metal' (sorry but I always found this label ridiculous, as you can find symphonic music in pretty much every genre, including Death and Black Metal - and this reminds me of the pompous, pretentious and ludicrous way Rhapsody have the habit to call their music Hollywood Metal or Film Score Metal, as if they're in a superior league and better than any other band on earth, another example of Turilli's inflated ego), is not even metal from my point of view or barely metal. So, if female vocals fit only in this 'false metal' genre, then it means female vocals don't fit any metal genre, in fact.

I have same preference with the topic creater.

Written by Angelic Storm on 12.08.2010 at 13:58

Written by F0rang3l on 12.08.2010 at 13:34

I rarely like female vocalists in Metal, but Epica and Leave's Eyes are the bands that have got it right. It seems symphonic metal is the best option for female vocalists.

Im not really a fan of symphonic metal with female vocals, and I think any metal that is harder musically just doesnt fit with female vocals. Unless its death vocals where they sound more like men than women.

Angela Gossow creeps me out but she sings really good. When I first heard them I didn't even realise she was a woman.

Written by F0rang3l on 12.08.2010 at 21:55
:D Angela Gossow creeps me out but she sings really good. When I first heard them I didn't even realise she was a woman.

Ive heard that quite a lot actually. A lot of people apparently thought it was a man singing when they first heard Angela. When I first became a fan of Arch Enemy, it was while Johan Liiva was still in the band, so I knew even before I bought "Wages Of Sin" that their new vocalist was a woman. I was taken aback still when I first heard that album though. Id never heard a woman doing death vocals before. Although I had myself attempted them in the past...

Written by Angelic Storm on 12.08.2010 at 23:06

Although I had myself attempted them in the past...

Except it's easiest to make them come from the throat, when they're supposed to come from the abdomen (which is hard to me, then again I haven't put any devotion whatsoever).

Written by vezzy on 12.08.2010 at 23:32
Except it's easiest to make them come from the throat, when they're supposed to come from the abdomen (which is hard to me, then again I haven't put any devotion whatsoever).

Well, Ive had a lot of throat problems due to a chronic sinus condition Ive had since I was 14. So I cant really sustain singing any type of metal, especially death metal, for any great length of time without my throat becoming really sore. I have heard that in most professional death metal singers, especially those who employ the gutteral style, it comes from the diaphragm. I never knew that way back when, when I was attempting it. I just growled and rasped.

It depends. In symphonic metal, you have Simone, Lisa, Heidi, Tarja, Vibeke, Floor, etc and they are very good. In thrash or let's say metal that contains growling, you have Sabina, Candace, Krysta, Alissa, Maria, etc, they are very good too. In doom, you have Lisa and Carmen. They fit perfectly with the music. Nera is amazing too, she fits perfectly.
Sometimes, female vocalists don't fit too well. For example, Angela, don't get me wrong. I like her, but I don't think her voice fits perfectly with the music, but that's just my opinion.

Written by Guest on 17.08.2010 at 22:02

It depends. In symphonic metal, you have Simone, Lisa, Heidi, Tarja, Vibeke, Floor, etc and they are very good. In thrash or let's say metal that contains growling, you have Sabina, Candace, Krysta, Alissa, Maria, etc, they are very good too. In doom, you have Lisa and Carmen. They fit perfectly with the music. Nera is amazing too, she fits perfectly.
Sometimes, female vocalists don't fit too well. For example, Angela, don't get me wrong. I like her, but I don't think her voice fits perfectly with the music, but that's just my opinion.

Can you give last names of thrash n doom whose what you mention, and there many many many female vocals into doom ,)

Well, i really like female vocalist in metal bands!
Maybe cause my fav. female metal band is so awesome!
Her name is Marya Roxx and she is a kick ass!

I would be greatful to anyone if he/she check out her!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXsbAdKVd8Y&feature=related

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Can you give last names of thrash n doom whose what you mention, and there many many many female vocals into doom ,)

Sure! My bad, Anyways, here they are, plus a few more.

*Holy Moses (Sabina) - Thrash - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0akBho3jig

*In This Moment (Maria) - Metalcore - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAo3Nefox2w

*Cripper - Thrash - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o0JVewgJR8

*Straight Line Stitch (Alexis) - Metalcore - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrfLMOGMrM

*The Agonist (Alissa) - Metalcore/Melodeath? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jud_SnKTlY

*Malsain - Black Metal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOowSwmtJqQ

*Orphan Hate - Thrash/Death - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwTve_20w0

*Walls Of Jericho (Candace) - Metalcore - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nw4KM3Ineg

*Wykked Wytch - Black Metal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssx3KptQMM

*Bloodshoteye - Metalcore/Grindcore - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua49HEM-SoY

*Astarte - Black Metal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcA_DWk2S1o

*Estuary - Thrash/Melodeath - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCqmnWJWMJE

*Adorior - Death/Black - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPlU_4fyxM8

*Ava Inferi (Carmen) - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUmDpTV_-A

*Elegeion - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyAe8bMQJg

*Chalice - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJ2t6xLspo

*Lisa is from Draconian, you probably know them.

*Sonata Nocturna - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZCfnrluvY

*Even Vast - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEvESp8vQGU

*The Sins Of Thy Beloved - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGws7l-F-3o

*Depressed Mode - Doom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2zNiv0g2I

*Darzamat (Nera) - Symphonic Black - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8xVEvQYNY0

I can't think of more. My apologies if they suck.

A bonus band from me, they are heavy/old school, and again they are worth checking out:

*Sister Sin - Heavy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB3UiwAdfec

I'd say that I dislike about 90% of female metal vocalists. This is due mainly to the obligatory narcissism that having a female fronted band entails.

My point is that a band with an ugly yet talented male vocalist is going to generally be taken a lot more seriously than a band with an ugly female vocalist regardless of how good she is.

It just goes to show that there will always be a double standard for males and females in any realm, including metal.

It doeant matter if metal band with female vocal is proffesional and popular, I still think (and my opinion will never change) that metal scene is for men ONLY. growling and screaming females look like transvestites on the scene (it makes me puke).

FEMALES FUCK UP METAL MUSIC!!!!

don't feel insulted, girls (im a girl myself)...but your place is in gothic or rock scene, not metal.

\m/ to all metal chicks who support metal guys and their music!

Written by InfernalChaos on 26.08.2010 at 10:43

It doeant matter if metal band with female vocal is proffesional and popular, I still think (and my opinion will never change) that metal scene is for men ONLY. growling and screaming females look like transvestites on the scene (it makes me puke).

FEMALES FUCK UP METAL MUSIC!!!!

don't feel insulted, girls (im a girl myself)...but your place is in gothic or rock scene, not metal.

\m/ to all metal chicks who support metal guys and their music!

Holy Moses proves you wrong.
Thorr's Hammer proves you wrong.
Warlock proves you wrong.
Znöwhite proves you wrong.
Girlschool proves you wrong.
Acid King proves you wrong.
Dracena proves you wrong.
Gallhammer proves you wrong.

Now, none of this shit features Tarja vocals or Angela Gossow vocals, which is a good thing, to say the least.

That said, female vocals sound great in traditional heavy metal, speed metal, thrash metal, doom metal and even some variants of blackened metal. It is a shame that the worst examples have become the most known (Tarja and Gossow).

Fear Of God and Détente prove her wrong, as do Sinister and Acrostichon and Mythic

Haha. I really like Acid King and Détente. Should better get round to check out Thorr's Hammer before Marcel pounces on me

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 26.08.2010 at 16:22

Written by InfernalChaos on 26.08.2010 at 10:43

It doeant matter if metal band with female vocal is proffesional and popular, I still think (and my opinion will never change) that metal scene is for men ONLY. growling and screaming females look like transvestites on the scene (it makes me puke).

FEMALES FUCK UP METAL MUSIC!!!!

don't feel insulted, girls (im a girl myself)...but your place is in gothic or rock scene, not metal.

\m/ to all metal chicks who support metal guys and their music!

Holy Moses proves you wrong.
Thorr's Hammer proves you wrong.
Warlock proves you wrong.
Znöwhite proves you wrong.
Girlschool proves you wrong.
Acid King proves you wrong.
Dracena proves you wrong.
Gallhammer proves you wrong.

Now, none of this shit features Tarja vocals or Angela Gossow vocals, which is a good thing, to say the least.

That said, female vocals sound great in traditional heavy metal, speed metal, thrash metal, doom metal and even some variants of blackened metal. It is a shame that the worst examples have become the most known (Tarja and Gossow).

You really like Gallhammer? I only know the album "Ill Innocence" but that is one of the worst I've heard up to now

Yeeeahhh, it's so much fun to "support guys" ....... *rolls eyes*. That's what girls are for.

I was going to say WHAT NO MALSAIN! but they are indeed on Wishmaster's list, nice one :-) Added bonus of Phobos on drums in that band, he's ace.

I wouldn't intentionally seek out a band with a female vocalist, but I wouldn't avoid them for that reason either. Give everything a shot and judge it on the same level.... and if Gossow's all that springs to mind, widen your listening net!

One of my favourite non-extreme voices is Swawa, who fronts Taunusheim and has her own project, Carved in Stone, which is simply gorgeous. She's good in those acts because her voices simply fits.

As soon as I know that the vocalist is female, I won't even bother to give a listen. That's how I have no interest for female vocalists in metal.

Written by RavenKing on 29.08.2010 at 15:00

As soon as I know that the vocalist is female, I won't even bother to give a listen. That's how I have no interest for female vocalists in metal.

Merlin (Rus) asks you to reconsider.

Yeah, i love Female fronted metal bands very much

Written by RavenKing on 29.08.2010 at 15:00

As soon as I know that the vocalist is female, I won't even bother to give a listen. That's how I have no interest for female vocalists in metal.

Avoiding a band just because they have a female vocalist is just as stupid(imo) as listening to a band because they're female fronted.

Written by lilith on 30.08.2010 at 10:06

Avoiding a band just because they have a female vocalist is just as stupid(imo) as listening to a band because they're female fronted.

The reason is quite simple. I know my tastes very well, so I'm aware there's no chance I could enjoy a metal band if they use female vocals, unless it's impossible to hear that the vocalist is female.
Find it stupid or not, I don't care. My tastes are what they are.
And there are way too many female-fronted metal bands since a while. This trend is getting ridiculous.

Written by RavenKing on 30.08.2010 at 14:19

The reason is quite simple. I know my tastes very well, so I'm aware there's no chance I could enjoy a metal band if they use female vocals, unless it's impossible to hear that the vocalist is female.

So, if a female vocalist tricked you into thinking that it's male vocals, you'd possibly even enjoy the band?
And when you knew the truth you'd stop enjoying the band??
It's a peculiar case of anti-feminism and misoginism...

Written by RavenKing on 30.08.2010 at 14:19

And there are way too many female-fronted metal bands since a while. This trend is getting ridiculous.

I don't even know what to say to that... It's not a trend, it's a normal thing. Do you also oppose female bank clerks and female teachers?

Written by RavenKing on 30.08.2010 at 14:19
The reason is quite simple. I know my tastes very well, so I'm aware there's no chance I could enjoy a metal band if they use female vocals, unless it's impossible to hear that the vocalist is female.
Find it stupid or not, I don't care. My tastes are what they are.
And there are way too many female-fronted metal bands since a while. This trend is getting ridiculous.

You can barely tell Merlin (Rus)'s vocalist is female. They're a death metal band and they don't have the annoying Gossow growl/shriek.

But I agree with the last sentence.

Written by Daniell on 30.08.2010 at 14:27
So, if a female vocalist tricked you into thinking that it's male vocals, you'd possibly even enjoy the band?
And when you knew the truth you'd stop enjoying the band??
It's a peculiar case of anti-feminism and misoginism...

I could be wrong here, but I think he means he could enjoy female vocals if they didnt sound female. I dont think he has a problem with the gender, just the female sounding voice along with metal music. I can hardly be accused of anti-feminism and mysoginism seeing as a I am female, and I dont like female vocals in metal music. There are rare exceptions like Angela Gossow, because her vocals are very male sounding, but generally, I dont think female voices suit metal imo.

Written by Angelic Storm on 30.08.2010 at 15:08
There are rare exceptions like Angela Gossow, because her vocals are very male sounding

Then you haven't really heard much female-fronted metal.

Written by vezzy on 30.08.2010 at 15:12
Then you haven't really heard much female-fronted metal.

I actually have heard most of the bands mentioned in this thread, and some that havent been.

Written by Angelic Storm on 30.08.2010 at 15:13

Written by vezzy on 30.08.2010 at 15:12
Then you haven't really heard much female-fronted metal.

I actually have heard most of the bands listed in this thread, and some that havent been.

Well then, I find it hard to believe how you could claim Angela Gossow is more male-sounding than say, Sabina Classen.

Written by vezzy on 30.08.2010 at 15:17
Well then, I find it hard to believe how you could claim Angela Gossow is more male-sounding than say, Sabina Classen.

On the later Holy Moses stuff, where she sings in a much more death metal way, she is very like Angela. But on the early albums, you can tell the difference. Although even back then they were pretty harsh. I much prefer her vocals now, to how they were before.

Written by Angelic Storm on 30.08.2010 at 15:24
On the later Holy Moses stuff, where she sings in a much more death metal way, she is very like Angela. But on the early albums, you can tell the difference. Although even back then they were pretty harsh. I much prefer her vocals now, to how they were before.

Weird. The way she sings in Queen of Siam isn't that noticeable, it's pretty fine actually. On the newer albums, I'd say she's harsher than Angela.