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Posted by Ivan, 30.09.2010 - 12:10

I know, it hasn't been long since this system has been introduced, however, we felt that it was inadequate and could use some improving. The main problem is, community points come from everywhere - and if you gained them by writing reviews, for example, it doesn't mean you're competent in editing bands and albums.

The new system keeps track of your achievements in separate areas - bands, albums, videos, trivia, logos, lyrics, lineup and grants you unsupervised access when it looks like you're ready for it. All your edits generate points - 1-3 for edits and 2-6 for additions, depending on quality. Gaining 100 points in Albums will allow you to add albums for invisible bands (200 for visible), 250 points to edit albums for invisible bands (500 for visible) and 300 will allow you to check album edits for invisible bands (600 for visible).

In this way, users can get access to editing pretty much everything in band profiles. As a bonus, you can even add bands after reaching 5000 total points, and edit styles for invisible bands with 2500 total points. You still can't: make bands visible, change band name, edit styles for visible bands.

As soon as you've made any contributions to the bands database and your edits have been accepted, a table will appear in your profile, detailing your progress (example). Retroactively, I transfered all previously recorded stats into the new system. Unfortunately, the records were only for additions, and there were no records for bands, logos and lyrics, so you'll have to start from 0 there, sorry.

If you have any checking permissions unlocked, you'll see a new link at the bottom of the Navigation menu: 'Check edits'. This is a way to help us to get through the piles of edits we're receiving. We trust you to be fair and thorough. Try to check the submitted information and correct whatever mistakes the submitted made. Hit 'Reject' only when the edit is beyond saving. Each checked edit will earn you 4 points in the particular area, plus 3 community points.

In addition to that, all users can now mark things for deletion - just go to the edit screen and hit the 'Delete' button in the bottom. This will be checked and taken care by Staff members.

The old system will remain intact for the moment, but will be most probably removed later.

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Ragana Rawrcat Posts: 4919 From: Latvia	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 22:52 Ragana Rawrcat Posts: 4919 From: Latvia Oh, just live with it. I personally have no idea why I have those points at all. Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 23:14 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic I need to know ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 23:20 Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands Strange, Ellrohir. At first I thought the 1 band edit was maybe still pending, but that's in the case either. My best guess is that the importation of CP's to this new system isn't flawless (maybe some records were lost), and that caused a few disruptions here and there. ---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama Loading...
Ivan Retired Admin Posts: 8850 From: Finland	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 23:31 Ivan Retired Admin Posts: 8850 From: Finland Written by Ellrohir on 01.10.2010 at 22:34 Now when i am looking at K7's profile, i see he has 12789 "band points", which means he is able to Add bands, since it is more than 5000...but next two band options - edit and check - are still marked as unavailable for him, although require much less points... also i am confused with this row in my profile - first i read here i have earned 0 points for editing bands and i have edited 1 band...and i dont know - either it means it are points for editing band info and then i am pretty sure i have made much more such edits, or it is just row for "bands in general" and then i dont understand what is this 1 edit i should have made... Bands = band profiles. If you read the notes under the permissions box (click 'Help'), you'll see that adding bands is determined by total points, while editing and checking is regular (meaning, it needs 'band points'). Not sure where this 1 edit came from in your profile, but normally it should come together with points... Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 23:41 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic Written by Lucas on 01.10.2010 at 23:20 My best guess is that the importation of CP's to this new system isn't flawless (maybe some records were lost), and that caused a few disruptions here and there. i am not against admitting it is sort of a bug...just wanted to point it out in case it can be fixed to prevent more possible harm maybe it cannot... btw. i know fair too well how hard it is to find why user has something that he shouldnt...on my encyclopedia site some people are occasionally going into negative values of "user points" and i am still unsure why it is so... ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands	Permalink 01.10.2010 - 23:49 Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands Written by Ellrohir on 01.10.2010 at 23:41 Written by Lucas on 01.10.2010 at 23:20 My best guess is that the importation of CP's to this new system isn't flawless (maybe some records were lost), and that caused a few disruptions here and there. i am not against admitting it is sort of a bug...just wanted to point it out in case it can be fixed to prevent more possible harm maybe it cannot... btw. i know fair too well how hard it is to find why user has something that he shouldnt...on my encyclopedia site some people are occasionally going into negative values of "user points" and i am still unsure why it is so... Haha yeah, I'm no programmer but I can imagine it can be quite annoying to sift through boring code to find the error. We appreciate all the input, complaints are chances to improve the site. ---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 02.10.2010 - 10:54 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic Now i see i have already 2 band edits... ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands	Permalink 02.10.2010 - 11:56 Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands Written by Ellrohir on 02.10.2010 at 10:54 Now i see i have already 2 band edits... And you did nothing the past couple of hours? What sort of edits did you add? ---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 02.10.2010 - 12:01 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic Well i am mostly working on bands - editing basic info if missing, adding styles, lineup, disco, logos...but i do many of such edits, cant see which should be "problematic" maybe - i know i have written one short biography this morning...but then, right now, i have updated another bio (added info about disbanding band) and this did nothing, still have two edits... ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 02.10.2010 - 18:13 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic Again me - it writes me i have earned 2047 points for editing in bands section...while totally i have "only" 2068 points, although at least 174 (at least according to old counting described in FAQ) should be for my news and reviews, not talking about events edits... i am not hunting for points here, but one of those numbers must be wrong, or? ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 02:32 Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt Written by Ivan on 01.10.2010 at 09:46 Made it only visible for the profile owner and Staff. Don't want to hide it under a link though, as it may confuse new contributors. did i get to be in the staff ?? i can still see the new permissions thing in some people's profiles and in some i cant. ---- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832 Loading...
Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt Posts: 7261 From: USA	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 02:36 Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt Posts: 7261 From: USA Holy shit. At this moment, there are ZERO pending album edits. Either this system is working, or someone is just accepting everything. Loading...
Introspekrieg Totemic Lust Posts: 2747 From: USA	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 02:49 Introspekrieg Totemic Lust Posts: 2747 From: USA Written by Dangerboner on 03.10.2010 at 02:36 Holy shit. At this moment, there are ZERO pending album edits. Either this system is working, or someone is just accepting everything. I've been working on the album edits for the last two days, I basically get paid at my job to sit at a computer/register, so I figured I could take care of them. And I'm not accepting everything if you are worried, there were many, many rejections. I fucked up a couple of times accepting splits that were listed on the other band's profile without connection, but immediately put them up for deletion and learned my lesson. If anyone wants to give me a lyrics permission I could take care of those... Loading...
selken Irreligious Posts: 949 From: El Salvador	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 07:05 selken Irreligious Posts: 949 From: El Salvador I love this system!!! it's even better than the Wiki principle of "anyone can edit" since It eventually only lets appropriate people to submit unaudited editions. I even didn't know there was a permission methodology. Great job ---- Loading...
Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 12:42 Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands Written by Introspekrieg on 03.10.2010 at 02:49 Written by Dangerboner on 03.10.2010 at 02:36 Holy shit. At this moment, there are ZERO pending album edits. Either this system is working, or someone is just accepting everything. I've been working on the album edits for the last two days, I basically get paid at my job to sit at a computer/register, so I figured I could take care of them. And I'm not accepting everything if you are worried, there were many, many rejections. I fucked up a couple of times accepting splits that were listed on the other band's profile without connection, but immediately put them up for deletion and learned my lesson. If anyone wants to give me a lyrics permission I could take care of those... Nice job man. I can't give you the lyrics permission unfortunately. ---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama Loading...
Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 60959 From: Sweden	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 15:44 Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 60959 From: Sweden Written by Introspekrieg on 03.10.2010 at 02:49 Written by Dangerboner on 03.10.2010 at 02:36 Holy shit. At this moment, there are ZERO pending album edits. Either this system is working, or someone is just accepting everything. I've been working on the album edits for the last two days, I basically get paid at my job to sit at a computer/register, so I figured I could take care of them. And I'm not accepting everything if you are worried, there were many, many rejections. I fucked up a couple of times accepting splits that were listed on the other band's profile without connection, but immediately put them up for deletion and learned my lesson. If anyone wants to give me a lyrics permission I could take care of those... hey man we both deal whit it, whyle I did some 60 yesterday :p and all videos :p ---- Life is to short for LOVE, there is many great things to do online !!! Stormtroopers of Death - ''Speak English or Die'' apos;' [image] I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing Loading...
Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 15:59 Lucas Mr. Noise Posts: 13427 From: The Netherlands Written by Zombie on 03.10.2010 at 02:32 Written by Ivan on 01.10.2010 at 09:46 Made it only visible for the profile owner and Staff. Don't want to hide it under a link though, as it may confuse new contributors. did i get to be in the staff ?? i can still see the new permissions thing in some people's profiles and in some i cant. You do? Strange. In which profiles? ---- SLUDGE. DOOM. DEATH. Wait, what? "The reason I'm running for president is because I can't be Bruce Springsteen." - Barack Obama Loading...
Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt	Permalink 03.10.2010 - 16:35 Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt HEY !!! THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN !! can i join hehe ??!! ---- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832 Loading...
Marcus Doit Like Bernie Posts: 642 From: USA	Permalink 04.10.2010 - 09:37 Marcus Doit Like Bernie Posts: 642 From: USA This system is actually really cool, totally digging it. Great job! Loading...
Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt	Permalink 04.10.2010 - 14:46 Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt Written by Lucas on 03.10.2010 at 15:59 Written by Zombie on 03.10.2010 at 02:32 Written by Ivan on 01.10.2010 at 09:46 Made it only visible for the profile owner and Staff. Don't want to hide it under a link though, as it may confuse new contributors. did i get to be in the staff ?? i can still see the new permissions thing in some people's profiles and in some i cant. You do? Strange. In which profiles? mostly profiles of inactive members and members who are low on community points. ---- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832 Loading...
Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk To Mega Therion Posts: 330 From: Serbia	Permalink 04.10.2010 - 21:58 Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk To Mega Therion Posts: 330 From: Serbia I just edited the last Grave Digger album, and there was no "source" field (although I put the source in the "comments of changes" field). Is this how it's supposed to be? I ran a decent number of edits in the last few days, and also, sometimes "source" field was there and sometimes not. I figured it may have something to do with bands being visible or invisible, but this GD thing broke my theory. ---- age] Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and they all stink. Loading...
Janne Hugin Posts: 1721 From: Hungary	Permalink 05.10.2010 - 00:20 Janne Hugin Posts: 1721 From: Hungary Great feat! btw why are we only allowed to see our own stats? it'd be great to see others' as well ---- age] -FOLK METAL HUNGARY- Loading...
GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark	Permalink 05.10.2010 - 12:22 GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark Written by Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk on 04.10.2010 at 21:58 I just edited the last Grave Digger album, and there was no "source" field (although I put the source in the "comments of changes" field). Is this how it's supposed to be? I ran a decent number of edits in the last few days, and also, sometimes "source" field was there and sometimes not. I figured it may have something to do with bands being visible or invisible, but this GD thing broke my theory. There should always be a source field no matter what. Might be a bug ---- Dreams are made so we don't get bored when we sleep Loading...
GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark	Permalink 05.10.2010 - 12:23 GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark Written by Janne on 05.10.2010 at 00:20 Great feat! btw why are we only allowed to see our own stats? it'd be great to see others' as well See the first page. Ivan answers it there ---- Dreams are made so we don't get bored when we sleep Loading...
Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt	Permalink 05.10.2010 - 20:49 Zombie Thrash'tillDeath Posts: 1627 From: Egypt Btw, i think there's a bug with the new points system... i have more "new 'system' points" in that bands permissions section than the total community points ... even though community points include funny stuff, articles, reviews, forum reports, and other criteria not found in the new system.. so how come i have more points in the new system (101) while i have only (99) community points in the 'old' system .. goddamit i want and i deserve a custom title LOL ---- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832 Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 05.10.2010 - 22:37 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic I currently have 2419 "real" points and 2911 "new" points... i already pointed this out few days ago... ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic	Permalink 12.10.2010 - 23:24 Ellrohir Heaven Knight Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic After i have read Ivan's opening post carefully once again, i discovered it probably isnt...his sentence Quote: Each checked edit will earn you 4 points in the particular area, plus 3 community points. invokes, that "band points" and "community points" are two separate things... ---- My rest seems now calm and deep Finally I got my dead man sleep Loading...
iaberis Advice Troll Posts: 1698 From: Greece	Permalink 12.10.2010 - 23:26 iaberis Advice Troll Posts: 1698 From: Greece Oh, my profile was used as an example! I'm flattered ---- Bitch! Please Loading...
Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 60959 From: Sweden	Permalink 17.10.2010 - 01:21 Bad English Tage Westerlund Posts: 60959 From: Sweden How can I edd sugegsted band I have been suggested many bands in past but Kabat, Torr, now Preterfnatural has been edded from this user Immortal SEP How can I do it I thought only staff can do it ---- Life is to short for LOVE, there is many great things to do online !!! Stormtroopers of Death - ''Speak English or Die'' apos;' [image] I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing Loading...
GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark	Permalink 18.10.2010 - 10:09 GT Coffee!! Posts: 5101 From: Denmark Written by Bad English on 17.10.2010 at 01:21 How can I edd sugegsted band I have been suggested many bands in past but Kabat, Torr, now Preterfnatural has been edded from this user Immortal SEP How can I do it I thought only staff can do it My guess is that he suggested it to be featured on the site and when it was accepted his name is given as the one who added it. Otherwise it's only staff that can add bands. ---- Dreams are made so we don't get bored when we sleep Loading...