My opinion on this: I love Evile and Bonded By Blood, Municipal Waste has potential so I'd leave them there and I'd rather have Gama Bomb instead of Toxic Holocaust. Tell me which of the four that you like the most and which band you'd rather have in the new big four if you had to choose.
Yeah that's pretty much my big four since there really isn't a big four for me in this new thrash metal thing/movement/revival going on. I'm usually not big on bands trying to bring a style back if they don't have anything interesting to add to it. Most of the bands listed on this thread (in my opinion I should say) don't. I mean at least have a cool gimmick like Ghost. I know they aren't thrash but they are bringing back an older style of metal while at the same time injecting something cool and fun into it. It's about as lame as all those second-wave black metal copycats out there. There is one band in my mind doing something cool and interesting with the thrash genre; Darkthrone. But then again the fact that they are my favorite band of all time doesn't hurt anything either. I'll take A Blaze in the Northern Sky over Nevermind any day for best album of the early 90's. LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!!!!
Hmmmm...Destruction being traded out for Kreator isn't necessarily too big of an issue for me but I'm definitely on the Metallica side of the fence. Up until 86 at least. After that I don't claim them anymore. Not trying to be hip or anything by saying that just my opinion. Mustaine's style never did anything for me.
"Hazardous Mutation" is THE only good album I heard for municipal waste I guess,, the rest disappointed me!! i would rather list them with metalcore..this is not how i want new thrash to become like...
anyhow I might want these two among the new thrashy big four (though the topic is kinda old but interesting):
There won't be bands who reach that level of popularity any time soon. Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax became so popular because they brought a certain aggression and presence to their music, whether it be Slayer's attempts to be darker than everyone else, Megadeth's drama mongering (I say Megadeth, Megadave is actually a very accurate term) or Metallica's attempts to battle the "posers"... which really ironic these days considering how hard they sold out. One thing I never understood though was Anthrax's popularity... no one I know listens to 'em, Exodus was probably just as popular at the time... Point is, it's more than music. It's presence outside of the music world which all of these new bands simply lack. I love Municipal Waste very much, but I doubt they'll ever have the sheer influence Megadeth has.
Anthrax were lots bigger than Exodus at the time. In the Eighties and early Nineties. Load more popular.
I was fan of both bands back in the day and prefered Exodus but it was clear to all that Anthrax were far more popular. Way more exposure on MTV and they also featured in an episode of Married With Children at the time. And that sitcome was HUGE back then.
Like deadone said Exodus were usually mentioned in terms of being "Kirk Hammett's old band." even though Hunolt and Holt were and are superior guitar players to Hammett.
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Anthrax was ver popular, exposed more to MTV, way far to the point they have collaboration with rap scene, as I remember with wu tan clan, leastly marketing or could be musically involvement. I do enjoy Anthrax, but if battle with Exodus, I've seen more fan to lean on and respect more, even like Exodus beat Metallica, come closed to Slayer.
If you would ask me there is no New Big Four of Thrash, because no other thrash bands are reaching anywhere near the original Big Four's success. If you put it in relative terms then maybe you could get away with it but new Thrash just isn't mainstream like it used to be, even in the metal community.
And of course Dave had to put some pretentious statement in there about bashing Glam and saying Thrash is the best.. Reminds me of how Nergal's been putting down other Metal bands lately too. What douches...
The other thing is the new bands aren't innovative. It's just rehashing stuff from the 1980s.
The original Big 4 each pioneered elements of Thrash and were very good at song writing.
I think most of this current crop of Thrash would be 3rd or even 4th tier if they were around in the 1980s- they're not original sounding, they're not strong song writers nor are they particularly innovative.
I havent listened to new Thrash a whole lot but from what I've heard that seems to be generally true, just doesnt sound fresh! Meanwhile the Big 4, as you said were extremely innovative and perfected the genre(imo).
Though, Municipal Waste is fairly innovative imo, they probably still wouldve been 2nd tier back in the day but at least they have their own unique sound/image. Cant vouch for any other bands though.
Instead of rehashing, new bands should try to push the genre like the oldies. It would be cool to hear a sort of Extreme Power influenced Thrash album with heavy on the leads, maybe even keys- kind of like "Trashed, Lost & Strungout" by Children of Bodom.
Not even close! Metallica were innovators in the genre and had massive influence. Municipal Waste are still clones.
I still don't think there is a big 4 of new Thrash as the genre is nowhere near as new or innovative as the 1980s.
And Thrash is no longer the leading genre. It's just one genre of many and other forms of metal are getting more commercial success (Metalcore, Symphonic Metal. Progressive Metal as well as old school stuff).
You obviously didnt get my point, since it packed a good punch of sarcasm. If these are the new Big 4 (which I agree, is completely without logic), Municipal Waste is clearly the new Metallica. They may not be the best of this new wave of bands, but they're the ones who are carrying the Flag and have all eyes on them.