Milena gloom cookie
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Really, what IS he going to do next?
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Timmeh Dudeman
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Written by Milena on 09.03.2011 at 08:34
Really, what IS he going to do next?
Straight from Wiki: "Dunn has produced a documentary series for VH1 Classic on various metal genres. Its release date is planned to be November 11, 2011." Wait, that's today!
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Timmeh on 11.11.2011 at 14:39
Straight from Wiki: "Dunn has produced a documentary series for VH1 Classic on various metal genres. Its release date is planned to be November 11, 2011." Wait, that's today!
Yeah, I know, I just won't be able to watch it because I haven't got VH1 Classic. But it is based on the metal family tree showed in Headbanger's Journey, which I don't like, as it overlooks a lot of bands and puts some bands in random categories
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Timmeh Dudeman
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 15:15
Yeah, I know, I just won't be able to watch it because I haven't got VH1 Classic. But it is based on the metal family tree showed in Headbanger's Journey, which I don't like, as it overlooks a lot of bands and puts some bands in random categories
Oh darn, yes I remember looking at that tree and questioning a substantial part of it. I live in Australia so I can't watch it anyway, I might try and dig up the first episode on the internet somewhere, if its content doesn't annoy me too much I might keep watching the series.
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Timmeh on 11.11.2011 at 15:21
Oh darn, yes I remember looking at that tree and questioning a substantial part of it. I live in Australia so I can't watch it anyway, I might try and dig up the first episode on the internet somewhere, if its content doesn't annoy me too much I might keep watching the series.
There is no 'true' version when it comes to the classification of metal genres, but I've found that a lot of musical journalists and people dealing with metal on other professional bases have a lot of wackier beliefs about them then the rest of us fans... and we should agree on the majority's opinion, as this is the model this world functions by... but they keep on pushing their versions of what subgenres should be :/ I mean, Judas Priest = power metal? If that is the case, we can retire heavy metal as a genre, as it doesn't exist, and everything is either power or proto metal
The article says you're from Ethiopia but you live in Australia.... have you moved?
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 15:15
Written by Timmeh on 11.11.2011 at 14:39
Straight from Wiki: "Dunn has produced a documentary series for VH1 Classic on various metal genres. Its release date is planned to be November 11, 2011." Wait, that's today!
Yeah, I know, I just won't be able to watch it because I haven't got VH1 Classic. But it is based on the metal family tree showed in Headbanger's Journey, which I don't like, as it overlooks a lot of bands and puts some bands in random categories
the metal family tree in Headbanger's Journey wasn't even made by Dunn but by Martin Popoff of Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles, a so-called serious metal journalist for decades. I really do find it disconcerting he came up with a family tree which is quite off at points and totally overlooks certain genres.
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.11.2011 at 15:31
the metal family tree in Headbanger's Journey wasn't even made by Dunn but by Martin Popoff of Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles, a so-called serious metal journalist for decades. I really do find it disconcerting he came up with a family tree which is quite off at points and totally overlooks certain genres.
I've mentioned in the comment below how metal journalists tend to do that. It's quite... I don't know the word for it. Why the hell they do it anyway?
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 15:36 Why the hell they do it anyway?
Laziness, ignorance, apathy. You decide.
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 11.11.2011 at 19:40
Laziness, ignorance, apathy. You decide.
Maybe a troll here and there too?
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 19:41 Maybe a troll here and there too?
Quite possibly. The thing with these metal anthropologists or whatever they call themselves, is they have to cater to the mainstream market. If I'm introducing someone to metal, I'm going to want them to get into stuff they like. And most people don't start off by liking something like Sui Caedere to start, they'd rather go with an Iron Maiden or Slayer kind of band. Once you promote the popular bands to the populace, they'll hopefully dig into the lesser known bands on their own time.
That being said, it's a shame how little the underground is promoted. Although if the underground was promoted it wouldn't be underground. :/
Dilemma much.
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 11.11.2011 at 19:44
Quite possibly. The thing with these metal anthropologists or whatever they call themselves, is they have to cater to the mainstream market. If I'm introducing someone to metal, I'm going to want them to get into stuff they like. And most people don't start off by liking something like Sui Caedere to start, they'd rather go with an Iron Maiden or Slayer kind of band. Once you promote the popular bands to the populace, they'll hopefully dig into the lesser known bands on their own time.
That being said, it's a shame how little the underground is promoted. Although if the underground was promoted it wouldn't be underground. :/
Dilemma much.
I don't mind him promoting the underground too little, as you may have heard, there's gonna be a whole series dedicated to the genres in question My problem is that the dude who made the metal family tree featured in A Headbanger's Journey was obviously some sort of a troll.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 19:46 I don't mind him promoting the underground too little, as you may have heard, there's gonna be a whole series dedicated to the genres in question My problem is that the dude who made the metal family tree featured in A Headbanger's Journey was obviously some sort of a troll.
Definitely. Anyone who knows their genres and their bands can instantly spot a handful of mistakes in that diagram.
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Timmeh Dudeman
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Written by Milena on 11.11.2011 at 15:30
The article says you're from Ethiopia but you live in Australia.... have you moved?
I'm not the reviewer .
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Milena gloom cookie
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Written by Timmeh on 12.11.2011 at 01:10
I'm not the reviewer .
I thought no one but the author would have a discussion with me, I'm sorry it would be a huge move across continents so it startled my imagination!
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