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Posted by Judas on 09.09.2011 at 06:40
Here's the scenario:
You have a friend who wants to hear a song that you feel is representative of a certain type of metal. They've heard lots about the subgenre, but they want you to recommend just one song that, in your opinion, incorporates most of the essential elements of the aforementioned subgenre that they can listen to and make a reasonably informed decision about whether or not that particular style does it for them (i.e. if they like the song, you think there's a fair chance they'll find quite a few bands they like within that subgenre, and if they don't like the song, you feel they probably won't like the subgenre on the whole).

Here are my choices:
Heavy Metal - 22 Acacia Avenue (Iron Maiden).
Doom Metal - Solitude (Candlemass).
Speed Metal - Majesty (Blind Guardian).
Thrash Metal - Angel of Death (Slayer).
Death Metal - Leprosy (Death).
Black Metal - In the Mist by the Hills (Satyricon).
Folk Metal - Journey Man (Korpiklaani).
Viking Metal - Sweoland Conqueror (Thyrfing).
Power Metal - Eagle Fly Free (Helloween).

(N.B. This list only incorporates genres that I like. I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending a song from a genre I'm not a fan of myself, e.g. Progressive Metal. Furthermore, the bands and songs listed are not necessarily my favourites from each genre; I just feel they give a good feel for the genre as a whole.)

Thoughts?



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BitterCOld
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  11.09.2011 at 01:20
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.09.2011 at 00:53

Written by Void Eater on 10.09.2011 at 07:05

As for black metal, Under a Funeral Moon of course.




Well, Immortal's "One by One" outdo "Under A Funeral Moon" completely.


one by one is not nearly as representative of BM as is UAFM.

but like so many (Guib) the point of representative seems to have gone horribly over your head.
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  11.09.2011 at 01:23
Written by BitterCOld on 11.09.2011 at 01:20

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.09.2011 at 00:53

Written by Void Eater on 10.09.2011 at 07:05

As for black metal, Under a Funeral Moon of course.




Well, Immortal's "One by One" outdo "Under A Funeral Moon" completely.


one by one is not nearly as representative of BM as is UAFM.

but like so many (Guib) the point of representative seems to have gone horribly over your head.


I dont feel to define my recommendations for every genre with a song...Bleh....! I felt that Immortal should be shared with UAFM...so I commented it there..!! (:
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  11.09.2011 at 01:48
It seems quite a few here have problems grasping the intention of this thread and especially the meaning of the word representative
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  11.09.2011 at 01:53
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 11.09.2011 at 01:23

I dont feel to define my recommendations for every genre with a song...Bleh....! I felt that Immortal should be shared with UAFM...so I commented it there..!! (:


attempting to define a genre with a single song is what the OP asked. it is not recommendations. it is representations.

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in order to be representative of a genre, i would think it important to be the type of song that helped define the genre, so likely something released earlier on in a genres formative years - the one that set the standard then and influenced others coming later.

Black - Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger
Death - Obituary - Find The Arise
Doom - (joins the Candlemass - Solitude train)
Heavy - Judas Priest - Another Thing Coming
Sludge - Buzzov*en - Dirtkickers
Stoner - Sleep - Dragonaut
Thrash - Exodus - A Lesson In Violence
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  11.09.2011 at 01:55
And thinking Baroness is representative for sludge is like thinking Obama's skin colour is representative for the skin colour of all non-whites in the world.
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  11.09.2011 at 03:00
I'm not surprised people don't get it.

I'd also go for Solitude and It'd be a toss up between Transylvanian Hunger or Freezing Moon for black metal.

Death: Suffocation - Infecting the Crypts
Thrash: Sabbat - The Clerical Conspiracy
Sludge: Acid Bath - Cheap Vodka
Stoner: Kyuss - Gardenia
Viking (if there is such a thing): Bathory - Valhalla
Avant Garde: Sigh - Bring Back the Dead
Metalcore: Integrity - Taste My Sin (arguably the first metalcore band anyway)
Melodic Metalcore: Killswitch Engage - Numbered Days

Dodgy but the best you'll get out of me:

Progressive: Opeth - The Leper Affinity or Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (depending on how you want to define progressive)
US Power/Speed: Agent Steel - Human Bullet
Heavy: King Diamond - A Mansion in Darkness
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  11.09.2011 at 03:14
Here's my best suggestions...

Heavy: Saxon - Dallas 1 pm
Thrash: Slayer - Raining Blood
Death: Death - Flattening of Emotions
Power: Rhapsody of Fire - Emerald Sword
Technical Death: Obscura - Septuagint
NWOBHM: Iron Maiden - The Trooper
Progressive: Rush - 2112
Doom: Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Metalcore: As I Lay Dying - Nothing Left
Hard Rock: Scorpions - Dynamite
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  11.09.2011 at 03:30
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 11.09.2011 at 03:00

Sludge: Acid Bath - Cheap Vodka
Stoner: Kyuss - Gardenia




Cheap Vodka would be my 1b for sludge, had written it in before going back for Buzzov*en. i wanted something nasty that had lots of slower parts, as the tempo is part of what initially defined sludge.

Kyuss was my 1b for stoner as well, although it would have been between Green Machine (my fave of theirs), 50 Million Year Trip, or Gardenia.
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  11.09.2011 at 03:31
Doom: joining the Candlemass - Soltude express
Thrash: Exodus - A Lesson In Violence
Death: Death - Pull The Plug or Evil Dead or Morbid Angel - Chapel Of Ghouls.
speed metal: agent steel - 144.000 Gone
power metal: helloween - how many tears
stoner: kyuss - green machine
sludge: acid bath - scream of the butterfly
black: mayhem - freezing moon
heavy: iron maiden - idea of march (yes I know, it's an instrumental)
metalcore: merauder - masterkiller
tech deat metal: atheist - on they slay
progressive: queensryche - suite sister mary
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  11.09.2011 at 03:35
Written by BitterCOld on 11.09.2011 at 03:30



Cheap Vodka would be my 1b for sludge, had written it in before going back for Buzzov*en. i wanted something nasty that had lots of slower parts, as the tempo is part of what initially defined sludge.

Kyuss was my 1b for stoner as well, although it would have been between Green Machine (my fave of theirs), 50 Million Year Trip, or Gardenia.

Actually I was a little hesitant about Cheap Vodka because of its fast pace but it's also my favoured song off that album so I just went with it.
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  11.09.2011 at 03:41
It seems 99% of the people (also people that are immensely deep into doom ) agree Solitude by Candlemass is the most representative doom song. We have a clear winner here
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  11.09.2011 at 04:40
Death: Pull the Plug-Death
Tech Death: The Anti-cosmic overload-Obscura
Thrash: Pleasure to Kill-Kreator
Heavy: Phantom of the Opera-Iron Maiden
Speed: Holy Wars-Megadeth
Power: Dr stein-Helloween
Black: Venom-Welcome to Hell
Doom: Solitude-Candlemass
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  11.09.2011 at 05:34
Heavy: Judas Priest - Victim of Changes or Iron Maiden - Hallowed Be Thy Name
Thrash: Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare
Death: Nile - Cast Down the Heretic
Progressive: Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 1
Power: Rhapsody of Fire - Dawn of Victory
Doom: You should already know by now
Black: Mayhem - Freezing Moon
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  11.09.2011 at 10:11
Written by JD on 11.09.2011 at 00:41

+1

You don't like Too Extreme?


Love it. But as a representative of death metal, I feel it's just a bit... too extreme (I bet you didn't see that line coming, booyah).
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  11.09.2011 at 10:49
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.09.2011 at 03:31

sludge: acid bath - scream of the butterfly


I love that song and all that jazz but I just have to ask you to explain this one to me.
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  11.09.2011 at 15:45
I think so far everyone agrees that the representative of prog would be a song from Images & Words (never mind which one).
As for power (I'm too lazy to think of other genres now, just picking one thing from the top of my head), I'd go for The Fourth Legacy by Kamelot, as a representative of what the genre should sound like. Damn, if only all power metal sounded THAT good...
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  11.09.2011 at 16:30
Written by Syk on 10.09.2011 at 21:12
Ah, very understandable. I think I've said elsewhere, I much prefer Nostradamus as a song, despite it being an obvious rehash of Painkiller, to some degree at least... and thinking about it now, not being quite so intense, it may a prime example of definitive heavy metal (alongside/aside from material from the '80s/late '70s). Plus with the intro including singing of another language, that could prove a further point of conversation... go further in discriminating what should or shouldn't be recommended/sought after.


The song "Nostradamus" is a great one, but I still feel "Painkiller" is a more defining song of the genre. hehe

Written by Syk on 10.09.2011 at 21:12
Hmm... there's always the danger... if you recommend the very best of what a genre has to offer up first, the listener might just get more & more disappointed as they explore more from it

Suddenly into my mind, for doom, are bashing: Anathema - Restless Oblivion, Shroud of Frost and/or Dying Wish from The Silent Enigma. Think I've already mentioned that too, in a beginner's forum thread on the subject... I might just be naming my favourites now


True, although if you recommend lesser examples of what a genre has to offer first, the listener might feel no desire to further explore the genre in the first place. lol

If I was going to name an Anathema song for the doom category, I'd have to go with "Lovelorn Rhapsody". I remember being totally blown away when I first heard that song, and to me it is one of the all time classic songs of the genre.

Written by Syk on 10.09.2011 at 21:12
(Still speaking of favourites, and of Halford...
Stoner? Queens of the Stone Age - Feel Good Hit of the Summer or probably any Kyuss...
Metalcore, somewhat favourite, no Halford: As I Lay Dying - Forever)


Halford, what about him? Stoner? I'll have to think about that one... lol I know some people would class some Cathedral as stoner (as opposed to doom) but Ive never seen them as anything but doom. Same sorta thing with Trouble... I'll come back to that one.

For groove, I guess it all depends whether you'd class "Burn My Eyes", as groove or not... If so, then my pick would definitely be "Davidian" by Machine Head. If not, then definitely "Psycho Holiday" by Pantera! xD
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  11.09.2011 at 21:21
Power: Chosen ones - Dream Evil
Heavy: Sanctuary - Iron Maiden
Thrash: Fight Fire with Fire - Metallica
Black: Satan my master - Bathory
Death: Hammersmached face - Cannibal Corpse
Folk: Trollhammare - Finntroll
Glam: Talk dirty to me - Poison
Industrial: Du Hast - Rammstein
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  12.09.2011 at 17:51
Heavy: Iron Man- Black Sabbath
Progresive: Pull Me Under- Dream Theater
Power: Holy Diver- Dio
Thrash- Seek and Destroy- Metallica
Black- Deathcrush- Mayhem
Death- Hammer Smashed Face- Cannibal Corpse
Melodic Death- System- In Flames
Nu- Freak on a Leash- Korn
Metalcore- Rose of Sharyn- Killswwitch Engage
Deathcore- No Pity For a Coward- Suicide Silence
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  13.09.2011 at 02:54
Heavy: Iron Maiden - Hallowed be thy name
Speed: Motorhead - Overkill
Thrash: Metallica - Metal Militia
Power: Helloween - Future World
NWOBHM: Diamond Head - Helpless
Doom: Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Stoner: Kyuss - Thumb
Hard Rock: Led Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown
Groove: Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Glam: Def Leppard - Photograph
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  13.09.2011 at 09:21
Death: Sepultura - Arise
Heavy: Judas Priest - Painkiller
Doom: Trouble - At The End Of My Daze
Power: Gamma Ray - Send Me A Sign
Progressive: Dream Theater - Pull Me Under
Thrash: Havok - Covering Fire
Speed: Gama Bomb - Polterghost
Cyber: Sybreed - ReEvolution
Space: Ayreon - Dragon On the Sea
Melodic: Scar Symmetry - The Illusionist
Instrumental: Chris Poland - Return To Metalopolis
Experimental: Animals As Leaders - Tempting Time
and finally ...
Good Fun: Austrian Death Machine - Conan, What's Best In Life?
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  13.09.2011 at 19:10
Death: Suffocation - Pierced From Within
Thrash: Slayer - Angel Of Death
Black: Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Groove: Pantera - Walk
Heavy: Iron Maiden - 2 Minutes To Midnight
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  15.09.2011 at 11:16
Metallica's Creeping Death for Thrash.
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  15.09.2011 at 11:48
Just to butt in ... I think industrial would be moot without Big Blacks - Kerosene my pick for Industrial
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  25.01.2012 at 22:44
Hard rock : queen - innuendo
heavy : Manowar - hail & kill
black : cradle of filth - from the cradle to enslave
doom : candlemass - At The Gallows End
death : Death - Crystal Mountain
thrash : pantera - The Art Of Shredding
speed : slayer - Ditto head
symphonic : Haggard - The Final Victory

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