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Paradise Lost - Draconian Times



8.9 | 969 votes |
Release date: 12 June 1995
Style: Doom metal, Gothic metal

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Disc I
01. Enchantment
02. Hallowed Land
03. The Last Time
04. Forever Failure
05. Once Solemn
06. Shadowkings
07. Elusive Cure
08. Yearn For Change
09. Shades Of God
10. Hands Of Reason
11. I See Your Face
12. Jaded
13. Walk Away [The Sisters Of Mercy cover] [bonus]
14. Laid to Waste [bonus]
15. Master of Misrule [bonus]
16. How Soon Is Now [2002 Re-release bonus]
17. Fear [2002 Re-release bonus]

Disc II Limited Edition Commemorative Tour Pack
01. Embers Fire [live]
02. Daylight Torn [live]
03. True Belief [live]
04. Pity The Sadness [live]
05. As I Die [live]
06. Weeping Words [demo]
07. The Last Time [demo]
08. Walk Away [The Sisters Of Mercy cover]
09. Laid To Waste
10. Master Of Misrule
11. Forever Failure [Video edit version]

Draconian Times (2011 Legacy Edition)
Disc I
01. Enchantment
02. Hallowed Land
03. The Last Time
04. Forever Failure
05. Once Solemn
06. Shadowkings
07. Elusive Cure
08. Yearn For Change
09. Shades Of God
10. Hands Of Reason
11. I See Your Face
12. Jaded
13. Enchantment [demo] [bonus]
14. Last Desire [demo] [bonus]
15. Forever Failure [bonus]
16. Shadowkings [bonus]
17. Once Solemn [bonus]
18. Hallowed Land [bonus]
19. The Last Time [bonus]

Disc II DVD
01. ''Draconian Times'' in 5.1 Mix
+ Forever Failure [video]
+ The Last Time [video]
+ Hallowed Land [video]
+ 16 pages booklet including liner notes from the band and exclusive new artwork [Regular jewel case version]
+ 36 pages booklet including liner notes from the band and exclusive new artwork [A5 digibook version]

Top 20 albums of 1995: 6
Top 200 albums of all time: 74

Additional info
Label: Music for Nations

Recorded at Great Linford Manor and Ridge Farm Studios.
Produced by Simon Efemey.
Engineered by Pete "Pee Wee" Coleman.
Assisted by Andy Griffin, Phil Wood and Phil Luff.
Mixed by Simon Efemey and Pete "Pee Wee" Coleman.
Mastered by Kevin Metealfe at Townhouse Studios, London.

Choir arrangements by the Guildford Dead Boys Choir.

Spoken dialogue on "Forever Failure" from "Charles Manson - The Man Who Killed The Sixties" produced by Box Productions for Channel Four Television Corporation.

2011 re-mastering and the 5.1 mix on the audio tracks by Jens Bogren at Fascination Street Studios, Örebro, Sweden for Northern Music Co. Ltd.

Guest review by
Gorey
Rating:
10
For a few years, the "happy folks" of Paradise Lost were used to making excellent albums such as Shades Of God or Icon, but nothing could really prepare us to this nuclear bomb, Draconian Times. This album, released in 1995, is, more than a confirmation, a real coup d?etat in the metal world: every listening, every note is a perpetual rediscovery. Tracks like 'Hallowed Land', 'Elusive Cure' or 'Forever Failure' exhale such beauty that there are no exact words to describe the emotion they make us feel.

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published 02.09.2003 | Comments (18)

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24.05.2013 - 16:44
Rating: 8
NocturnalStalker
Metal Addict
This album, I think, was one of the albums that defined the gothic metal genre. It has plenty of nice songs but I still prefer to listen to "Gothic", "Shades of God" or "Icon".
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26.06.2013 - 09:05
Rating: 10
theembryo

The only thing better than this release is when they play it live.
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26.06.2013 - 11:46
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by theembryo on 26.06.2013 at 09:05

The only thing better than this release is when they play it live.



when they played the entire album live it was terrible. The band made huge mistakes in every single song. I love tha album but the live rendition o it two years ago was just totally terrible.
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05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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27.06.2013 - 04:58
Rating: 10
theembryo

Damn it - Seems I must give a better listen - I thought the 'offical release of the April gig in UK was quite great!
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27.06.2013 - 13:08
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by theembryo on 27.06.2013 at 04:58

Damn it - Seems I must give a better listen - I thought the 'offical release of the April gig in UK was quite great!


I know people who went to that gig and said it was terrible. They saw the dvd and it was immediately clear that the sound on that dvd had been doctored with. All the mistakes which were there at the Original gig were nowhere to be found and all of a sudden Nick also sounded great. So, clearly a case of overdubbing (which is actually done to almost ALL live dvd's tbh.)
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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29.06.2013 - 06:05
Rating: 10
theembryo

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.06.2013 at 13:08

I know people who went to that gig and said it was terrible. They saw the dvd and it was immediately clear that the sound on that dvd had been doctored with. All the mistakes which were there at the Original gig were nowhere to be found and all of a sudden Nick also sounded great. So, clearly a case of overdubbing (which is actually done to almost ALL live dvd's tbh.)


Ahh.... indeed then. Yes, listening to a production can be (usually is) quite different than the actual experience. Thanks for the comments Marcel!
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14.11.2013 - 21:48
Rating: 8
CobiWan1993
Secundum Filium
Excellent, Im getting more stuff from this band as we speak, and this album is fucking great. Paradise Lost rules.
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21.12.2013 - 22:58
Rating: 7
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Started off strong then mutated into this pop-like....I have no idea... I've always loved "Shades Of God" though.
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22.12.2013 - 14:37
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Gotta wonder the same thing... Don't hear a trace of pop at all. Simply (great) goth(ic) metal/rock with some psychedelic moments here and there. Great shit.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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22.12.2013 - 14:52
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
The pop popped up on the album after this one
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Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal

Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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03.01.2014 - 18:25
Rating: 7
Erik M.

Written by LeKiwi on 21.12.2013 at 22:58

Started off strong then mutated into this pop-like....I have no idea... I've always loved "Shades Of God" though.


Well, what do you know... I totally agree with you.

Shades of God is easily my favourite album by PL as well. Draconian Times and Icon are pretty poppy if you ask me. Extremely accessible stuff. Just when some of these songs start to get interesting they're already over.

The genre-tag here is hilarious... "death doom metal"?
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03.01.2014 - 18:47
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Oh... I guess you are the kind of guys who use the term "pop" for something accessible. Huh.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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03.01.2014 - 19:08
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 03.01.2014 at 18:47

Oh... I guess you are the kind of guys who use the term "pop" for something accessible. Huh.

Yeah, pop to me is something sugary sweet and overly melodic. This album may be easily listenable but it's far from pop. If this is pop then what's flower metal?
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03.01.2014 - 19:45
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Is this already one of the rules of being a Metal Stormer? If not it should be. Something like: "1. Anything you find accessible must be referred to as pop music because it makes your taste in music look more sophisticated than your peers."
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15.01.2014 - 01:08
Rating: 10
HellriderRising

No words can describe this masterpiece. Total respect.
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22.01.2014 - 01:33
LordHypnos
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Is this album really Doom Metal? Once Solemn sounds very positive to me (I'm not saying that it's bad).
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22.01.2014 - 02:06
Rating: 9
Unhealer
Eclecticist
Written by Guest on 22.01.2014 at 01:33

Is this album really Doom Metal? Once Solemn sounds very positive to me (I'm not saying that it's bad).


Not doom nor death, plain gothic metal. There are still hints of doom but I wouldn't tag this as such.
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10.07.2015 - 22:32
Rating: 7
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Troy Killjoy on 03.01.2014 at 19:45

Is this already one of the rules of being a Metal Stormer? If not it should be. Something like: "1. Anything you find accessible must be referred to as pop music because it makes your taste in music look more sophisticated than your peers."

Honestly, I love some pop music I just thought that that level of cheese has no place in a gothic death doom album.

- year and a half late comment
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11.07.2015 - 13:37
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Written by LeKiwi on 10.07.2015 at 22:32

Written by Troy Killjoy on 03.01.2014 at 19:45

Is this already one of the rules of being a Metal Stormer? If not it should be. Something like: "1. Anything you find accessible must be referred to as pop music because it makes your taste in music look more sophisticated than your peers."
Honestly, I love some pop music I just thought that that level of cheese has no place in a gothic death doom album.


Despite what it says above in the album profile... There's not an iota of death on this one. Hell I'd say the gothic elements are ever stronger than the doom ones. Also much more rock than metal going on here. That together with the melodies and psychedelic vibes makes the album sound the way I expected it to sound the first time I got it. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I'm just saying " no place in a gothic death doom album" is wrong.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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11.07.2015 - 13:47
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
What psychedelic vibes?

It certainly is metal, way more than rock and there are some slight hints of death in it.
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Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal

Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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11.07.2015 - 14:41
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.07.2015 at 13:47

What psychedelic vibes?

It certainly is metal, way more than rock and there are some slight hints of death in it.


Well, I personally get some vibes during the soloings. I still see no death on this album though and neither pop for that matter.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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11.07.2015 - 14:43
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by X-Ray Rod on 11.07.2015 at 14:41

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.07.2015 at 13:47

What psychedelic vibes?

It certainly is metal, way more than rock and there are some slight hints of death in it.


Well, I personally get some vibes during the soloings. I still see no death on this album though and neither pop for that matter.



certainly no pop whatsoever present.
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Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal

Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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27.02.2017 - 23:12
Rating: 8
Redel

Certainly a classic in Gothic Metal this. A bit front loaded, as the highlights are all to be found among the first five tracks. Besides, one the most beautiful album cover arts I am aware of.
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25.03.2019 - 21:45
Rating: 10
cynicoren

With Icon, these are the top albums of the band, although Draconian has a better production and rich sound. It is a part of my top 30 albums.
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31.10.2019 - 15:30
Dinruth

Have just bought this record cause it was only 5? ... Is it just me, or does the vocalist totally sound like Hetfield?
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31.10.2019 - 16:12
JoHn Doe

Written by Dinruth on 31.10.2019 at 15:30

... Is it just me, or does the vocalist totally sound like Hetfield?


it's you...
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31.10.2019 - 17:27
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Dinruth on 31.10.2019 at 15:30

Have just bought this record cause it was only 5� ... Is it just me, or does the vocalist totally sound like Hetfield?


Nope, it's not just you. Loads of people say that and especially said that at the time of the relase of Draconian Times.
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Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal

Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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31.10.2019 - 20:00
Rating: 8
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
I agree on that as well. Specially on this album.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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31.10.2019 - 20:01
Dinruth

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.10.2019 at 17:27

Written by Dinruth on 31.10.2019 at 15:30

Have just bought this record cause it was only 5� ... Is it just me, or does the vocalist totally sound like Hetfield?


Nope, it's not just you. Loads of people say that and especially said that at the time of the relase of Draconian Times.


well thanks for not letting me stand in the rain ... still a good album, imo
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17.05.2020 - 18:15
Metren
Dreadrealm
I listened to this for the first time a few days ago while waiting for their latest. As a Paradise Lost noob I assumed this would be a good place to start given that it is their highest rated album here, but unfortunately this album did absolutely nothing for me. Rarely, if ever before have I been so unmoved by an album with such a high rating. I'm almost tempted to give this a 6/10, but I think I will give it a few more listens first before rating it. After all, some say it is a grower-type album.
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