JCJen7
Posts: 423 From: USA |
Written by BitterCOld on 13.02.2012 at 01:35
perhaps i misinterpreted the "only review this album has" and "the one guy who didn't like it" (when is scoring an album between good and very good not liking something?) as whining, but you immediately pop into mind about someone who doesn't seem to shut up about disagreeing with a review... after all you've made numerous remarks about that horrible abomination of an 7X album i reviewed... reading the recent posts just reminded me of the others.
Yeah, the second someone pointed it out I realized I didn't mean to say that he didn't like it, that was my mistake. and about a7x, you have a point there. But, on this particular review/thread, I wasn't trying to call out the review.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
Posts: 8977 From: Canada |
06.06.2012 - 17:48Rating: 8
The comments we're more fun than the review
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tuerda
Posts: 203 From: Mexico
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Odd, this review. I think what it says applies to about 99% of revivalist thrash, but Vektor is pretty much the one band for which it isn't true. To my ears, Vektor is actually taking thrash metal in a new(ish) direction. Granted, its not reinventing the wheel, but its one of very few probably the only recent thrash bands I have listened to that doesn't make me say "yeah, I've heard that before". That being said, I did enjoy the review, and I see where some of the comparisons come from (Toxik, certainly. I can't really hear any Destruction though).
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X-Ray Rod Skandino
Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by tuerda on 02.12.2012 at 07:59 probably the only recent thrash bands I have listened to that doesn't make me say "yeah, I've heard that before".
Ever heard of Voivod?
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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tuerda
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 02.12.2012 at 17:55
Written by tuerda on 02.12.2012 at 07:59 probably the only recent thrash bands I have listened to that doesn't make me say "yeah, I've heard that before".
Ever heard of Voivod?
Yeah, Troy seems to think Vektor is a Voivod ripoff too. Its weird since I hear much more Toxik than Voivod. I even went so far as to go Youtube diving and listen to at least two tracks from each of the early Voivod albums, just to make sure it was not just me remembering things wrong. It was quite an enjoyable experience, but it did not change my mind. Although the Voivod influences are evident, I really don't think Vektor is all that similar.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino
Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by tuerda on 02.12.2012 at 19:50 I even went so far as to go Youtube diving and listen to at least two tracks from each of the early Voivod albums, just to make sure it was not just me remembering things wrong.
Killing Technology and Dimension Hatröss to be more specific.
Discussion aside: If you haven't heard these two Voivod albums... Do it. They are fantastic.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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tuerda
Posts: 203 From: Mexico
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 02.12.2012 at 19:57
Written by tuerda on 02.12.2012 at 19:50 I even went so far as to go Youtube diving and listen to at least two tracks from each of the early Voivod albums, just to make sure it was not just me remembering things wrong.
Killing Technology and Dimension Hatröss to be more specific.
Discussion aside: If you haven't heard these two Voivod albums... Do it. They are fantastic.
Thanks for the recommendations. I have listened to Killing Technology in its entirety and I agree it is very good. Dimension Hatross will go on my to do list
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Daggon Underpaid M.D.
Posts: 1689 From: Mexico |
14.04.2013 - 07:19Rating: 8
DaggonUnderpaid M.D.Posts: 1689 From: Mexico
Despite what this review says, I think this album is like a slap of Thrash metal in your face, this is one of the most interesting bands in Thrash nowadays, along with those guys from New York called Children. Simply awesome.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
This review is terrible. In need of a re-write...
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."
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Blindearth
Posts: 64 From: Greece |
04.12.2022 - 21:46Rating: 10
7.5 for this masterpiece???
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist
Posts: 21306 From: Canada |
Written by Blindearth on 04.12.2022 at 21:46
7.5 for this masterpiece???
I stand by the rating but the content of the review should be dismissed; I could have been far more articulate and less self-absorbed to explain my reasoning behind the rating but I was just a baby boy.
Most ratings of mine degrade over the years but this one stands the test of time. I think it's just a few notes shy of greatness -- the production and technicality alone are worthy of that descriptor. It's more of a personal issue with the vocal style and songwriting. The complexity sometimes impedes the flow to the point of distraction for me.
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Blindearth
Posts: 64 From: Greece |
05.12.2022 - 07:07Rating: 10
Its always personal issue. I am not a fan of Voivod but I enjoy Vektor's albums so much. Everything else has been said already in the comments above.
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Guib Thrash Talker
Posts: 3056 From: Canada |
12.04.2024 - 02:47Rating: 8
GuibThrash TalkerPosts: 3056 From: Canada
I actually mostly agree with the rating of the album here but like Troy said himself, the review ... meh. Compared to the rating it didn't age well and didn't endure the test of time . Always been an avid fan of anything revivalist because I want to have more of what I like and I don't give a rat's ass if it's been '' done'' especially for a movement that gave me so many albums that were better than their elders ( The Art Of Partying, Breathing The Fire, Beyond The Permafrost, Black Future, Time Is Up, Evil Never Dies, Hard Times Hanging At The End Of The World, Infernal Maze, Waking Into Nightmares and the list goes on and on, you get it...).
This kind of viewpoint was always strange to me. Well I suppose it was already a revivalist movement before the 90's... I mean... Look at the amount of bands that suddenly appeared just between 1983-1986 to copy-cat whoever successful was there and not really adding much (except for a few great bands ofc). There was sooooo many thrash acts sprouting all over the globe, it's absolutely disgusting. So I never understood the ''hate'' (take this word lightly please) people gave to those young folks who were just trying to top their idols doing something they love. Fuckin' let 'em have at it because they slay and a lot of them did top the pioneers. Also I completely disagree with them lacking originality or uniqueness. Most of these young bands actually had their own flair and added elements that were fun and surprising. I think the entire prog/tech thrash scene especially grew a lot with bands like Children, Sacred Ally, Hexen, Epicenter, Revocation, Witheria, Darkane, Black Fast, The Clockwork and obviously many more including Vektor that were doing some amazing stuff and combining genres that weren't that prominent before on the thrash scene. If you truly take the time to look closely. Also I think the Crossover and Black Thrash scenes got quite the revamp thanks to the revivalist movement.
I genuinely think that it was an edgy thing to do and a bit cringy back then to hate on thrash revivalists, like it has been to hate on alt-metal before that. Nothing really constructive or interesting ever came out of doing that. Just saying '' that was done before therefore this is now worse'' really doesn't convince me either nor should it convince you. Thankfully lots of folks have ears and curiosity going for them and can see past that, make an opinion by actually give those releases a shot. So yeah that's my take in any case. Just glad the youngsters kept at it regardless of the critics because now we have a ton of amazing fucking albums and a live scene that doesn't only look like bald or white-haired fattening old men soon to be retired. Look this all comes from someone who wasn't '' too lazy'' to ignore Thrash Metal's golden years, but I'm pretty sure y'all know this by now. Please, hate me all you want, call it a rant, indulge yourself... I kinda like it, also the necro is hard and festering.
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