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08.12.2011 - 20:24
metalheadpunk
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There has been alot of bands that are thrash and are punk, but what about in between? Or bands that have started out as punk and gone to thrash? Im talking about bands like Suicidal Tendencies, D.R.I., Wehrmacht, Cro Mags, Cryptic Slaughter, ect.
Most crossover thrash isnt well known, but what do you guys think about this stuff?
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08.12.2011 - 21:13
Troy Killjoy
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I never really got into crossover thrash... I guess I just don't enjoy the style.

And as if this thread wasn't made until now. :/
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08.12.2011 - 22:10
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Heard of Leeway? I discovered them in GTA IV a few years ago
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08.12.2011 - 22:15
Koen Smits

I've got some really cool crossover vinyls like Cryptic Slaughter, DRI, The Accused, Prong, Holocausto...
I used to listen to them very often. Now they're in a box in my music room.
The only band I never got into was Suicidal Tendencies
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08.12.2011 - 22:25
Marcel Hubregtse
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No one has mentioned Crumbsuckers yet
Or the first Nuclear Assault album, S.O.D., M.O.D., Attitude Adjusment/Attitude, Gang Green, Excel, Brutal Obscenity, Dead Orchestra, Hirax, Lawnmower Deth, Municipal Waste, White Devil, Ratos de Porão, Charley's War, Carnivore, first Type O negative album (more or less) all examples of extremely good crossover thrash as well as cause For Alarm by Agnostic Front. Crossover thrash is actually the very first primal form of Metalcore since it was a crossover of thrash metal with hardcore.
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08.12.2011 - 23:07
Koen Smits

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.12.2011 at 22:25

No one has mentioned Crumbsuckers yet
Or the first Nuclear Assault album, S.O.D., M.O.D., Attitude Adjusment/Attitude, Gang Green, Excel, Brutal Obscenity, Dead Orchestra, Hirax, Lawnmower Deth, Municipal Waste, White Devil, Ratos de Porão, Charley's War, Carnivore, first Type O negative album (more or less) all examples of extremely good crossover thrash as well as cause For Alarm by Agnostic Front. Crossover thrash is actually the very first primal form of Metalcore since it was a crossover of thrash metal with hardcore.


I knew you would step in very soon.

I never considered the first Nuclear Assault album crossover.
Most of these bands I know and of course S.O.D., M.O.D. and Hirax should be here, you're talking about real classics.
The Exploited also went crossover. Spazztic Blurr and Mastic scum in a way but they're mostly grindcore.
Corrosion Of Confirmity with other influences. Belgians Trenchfoot.
I also remember seeing various Dutch and Belgian bands at local concerts but I don't recall their names anymore.
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08.12.2011 - 23:46
Joppe
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Generally speaking I don't like crossover because the songs are mostly very short and the lyrics are just... Anyways got my hands on Thrash Zone by D.R.I recently and it's a pretty good album. Other than that Wehrmacht is the only crossover band I really liked.

I heard there used to be some conflicts at the crossover gigs between metal fans and hardcore fans because those genres have quite different kind of fan bases
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09.12.2011 - 19:25
metalheadpunk
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Written by Koen Smits on 08.12.2011 at 23:07

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.12.2011 at 22:25

No one has mentioned Crumbsuckers yet
Or the first Nuclear Assault album, S.O.D., M.O.D., Attitude Adjusment/Attitude, Gang Green, Excel, Brutal Obscenity, Dead Orchestra, Hirax, Lawnmower Deth, Municipal Waste, White Devil, Ratos de Porão, Charley's War, Carnivore, first Type O negative album (more or less) all examples of extremely good crossover thrash as well as cause For Alarm by Agnostic Front. Crossover thrash is actually the very first primal form of Metalcore since it was a crossover of thrash metal with hardcore.


I knew you would step in very soon.

I never considered the first Nuclear Assault album crossover.
Most of these bands I know and of course S.O.D., M.O.D. and Hirax should be here, you're talking about real classics.
The Exploited also went crossover. Spazztic Blurr and Mastic scum in a way but they're mostly grindcore.
Corrosion Of Confirmity with other influences. Belgians Trenchfoot.
I also remember seeing various Dutch and Belgian bands at local concerts but I don't recall their names anymore.



Well its nice to see some other people who at least know about this stuff. Besides regular thrash, crossover is my favorite. C.O.C. and the Exploited are pretty righteous and Nuclear Assualt does have some punk and thrash elements in their music but probably not as much as other bands. Gang Green definatly awesome as well.
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09.12.2011 - 20:00
Koen Smits

Written by Joppe on 08.12.2011 at 23:46

I heard there used to be some conflicts at the crossover gigs between metal fans and hardcore fans because those genres have quite different kind of fan bases


Here (at the concerts I witnessed) it was ok. Only punkrock and metal at the same concert was not a good combination.
Seen some ugly fights between punks and metalheads but that was more then 20 years ago.
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10.12.2011 - 05:53
Lit.
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Honestly, I don't see the difference between it and regular Thrash.
Or Punk for that matter.
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10.12.2011 - 07:43
BlueMobius
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Don't forget Gwar's early material. It definitely had a punk/metal vibe.
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11.12.2011 - 02:06
TrollandDie

DRI and Nuclear Assault both released some awesome shit for the genre. I've never really gotten into crossover; prefer the more ''vicious thrash'' groups like Demolition Hammer and Solstice.

I have come across a rather amusing video by crossover dudes ''In Defense''. Not bad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iQ0lU_lOyM
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11.12.2011 - 02:23
Savopipo

Crumbsuckers is an old favourite of mine. They made some great records. Yooure up shits creek!!
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02.01.2012 - 02:42
NLthrasher

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.12.2011 at 22:25

No one has mentioned Crumbsuckers yet
Or the first Nuclear Assault album, S.O.D., M.O.D., Attitude Adjusment/Attitude, Gang Green, Excel, Brutal Obscenity, Dead Orchestra, Hirax, Lawnmower Deth, Municipal Waste, White Devil, Ratos de Porão, Charley's War, Carnivore, first Type O negative album (more or less) all examples of extremely good crossover thrash as well as cause For Alarm by Agnostic Front. Crossover thrash is actually the very first primal form of Metalcore since it was a crossover of thrash metal with hardcore.

I certainly wouldn't call Hirax crossover thrash.
Municipal Waste is one of my favourites though.
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02.01.2012 - 14:44
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by NLthrasher on 02.01.2012 at 02:42

I certainly wouldn't call Hirax crossover thrash.


I certainly would since there are quite a few punk hardcore influences in Hirax's sound
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02.01.2012 - 18:02
NLthrasher

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2012 at 14:44

Written by NLthrasher on 02.01.2012 at 02:42

I certainly wouldn't call Hirax crossover thrash.


I certainly would since there are quite a few punk hardcore influences in Hirax's sound

Yeah but the amount of punk influences is to small if you ask me. You can't compare it to the amount of punk influences that you here on S.O.D. or Municipal Waste albums.
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02.01.2012 - 18:05
Tormentor666

I like very few bands of crossover thrash, apart from SOD, Suicidal Tendencies and DRI, I enjoy Municipal Waste, SSS and MOD, but nothing else.
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05.03.2013 - 22:07
Guib
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Ok ok, first of, this topic is getting old and it clearly needs some new posts. What about changing this thing a little by posting
recent crossover or recommendations that we find.

I'll start up with a band that Cynic showed me on Bandcamp they only have a demo but IMO its pretty decent
hope they will release a full length soon.

So here it is, its called Immolate. Don't know where they're from though
http://immolate.bandcamp.com/
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06.03.2013 - 07:24
SuicidalCyco
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Written by Guib on 05.03.2013 at 22:07

Ok ok, first of, this topic is getting old and it clearly needs some new posts. What about changing this thing a little by posting
recent crossover or recommendations that we find.

I'll start up with a band that Cynic showed me on Bandcamp they only have a demo but IMO its pretty decent
hope they will release a full length soon.

So here it is, its called Immolate. Don't know where they're from though
http://immolate.bandcamp.com/


What it needs is just more people who like crossover. Which would create more posts.
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07.03.2013 - 01:03
Guib
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What it needs is just more people who like crossover. Which would create more posts.


Well... yeah I guess you're right Its sad isn't it ?
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12.09.2013 - 11:20
Cynic Metalhead
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Maguila! - A revolta do mar encarniçado



Album released 30 December 2012.

Bandcamp

it got some crazy ass crossover thrash stuff. Totally underrated if you go on to check out their discographies. Even Lich King's fb page showed Maguila' rec couple of days back.
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29.09.2013 - 12:50
metalpeer

Have you guys ever heard Cross Examination? I've got 2 cds by them and they define the term crossover 100% Check out their cds "The Hung Jury" and "Menace II Sobriety" if you can find them, good metal! They tend to mix it up real nice. A little thrash riff here and then right into that crossover, punky sound, back to the thrash riffs. Anyway, I like them.

Here's their link https://www.facebook.com/crossexamination
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30.09.2013 - 03:27
Guib
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Written by metalpeer on 29.09.2013 at 12:50

Have you guys ever heard Cross Examination? I've got 2 cds by them and they define the term crossover 100% Check out their cds "The Hung Jury" and "Menace II Sobriety" if you can find them, good metal! They tend to mix it up real nice. A little thrash riff here and then right into that crossover, punky sound, back to the thrash riffs. Anyway, I like them.

Here's their link https://www.facebook.com/crossexamination


I definitely dig that sound, I'm not sure yet if I do like the vocals or not... it's hard to say
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01.10.2013 - 03:12
UPDIRNS

Crossover thrash you mean post hardcore? Letlive and The Chariot are both good post hardcore bands. To me it sounds a lot like punk/thrash. Not a huge fan of the sound though.
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01.10.2013 - 04:56
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Written by UPDIRNS on 01.10.2013 at 03:12

Crossover thrash you mean post hardcore? Letlive and The Chariot are both good post hardcore bands. To me it sounds a lot like punk/thrash. Not a huge fan of the sound though.


Crossover thrash and post hardcore are two totally different things.
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03.10.2013 - 02:02
Guib
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Written by Guest on 01.10.2013 at 04:56

Written by UPDIRNS on 01.10.2013 at 03:12

Crossover thrash you mean post hardcore? Letlive and The Chariot are both good post hardcore bands. To me it sounds a lot like punk/thrash. Not a huge fan of the sound though.


Crossover thrash and post hardcore are two totally different things.


Well I'm not sure I agree lol I think Post Hardcore and Crossover are pretty damn similar lol

Do you consider Dr. Know and Dayglo Abortions to be Crossover ? Cuz I do
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03.10.2013 - 02:30
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Guib on 03.10.2013 at 02:02

Written by Guest on 01.10.2013 at 04:56

Written by UPDIRNS on 01.10.2013 at 03:12

Crossover thrash you mean post hardcore? Letlive and The Chariot are both good post hardcore bands. To me it sounds a lot like punk/thrash. Not a huge fan of the sound though.


Crossover thrash and post hardcore are two totally different things.


Well I'm not sure I agree lol I think Post Hardcore and Crossover are pretty damn similar lol

Do you consider Dr. Know and Dayglo Abortions to be Crossover ? Cuz I do



those two are indeed crossover but totally NOT post hardcore
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03.10.2013 - 02:38
Guib
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.10.2013 at 02:30

Written by Guib on 03.10.2013 at 02:02

Written by Guest on 01.10.2013 at 04:56

Written by UPDIRNS on 01.10.2013 at 03:12

Crossover thrash you mean post hardcore? Letlive and The Chariot are both good post hardcore bands. To me it sounds a lot like punk/thrash. Not a huge fan of the sound though.


Crossover thrash and post hardcore are two totally different things.


Well I'm not sure I agree lol I think Post Hardcore and Crossover are pretty damn similar lol

Do you consider Dr. Know and Dayglo Abortions to be Crossover ? Cuz I do



those two are indeed crossover but totally NOT post hardcore



What is Post-Hardcore then ?
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03.10.2013 - 02:45
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Guib on 03.10.2013 at 02:38




What is Post-Hardcore then ?



actually Wikipedia explains it pretty well
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03.10.2013 - 02:56
Guib
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.10.2013 at 02:45

Written by Guib on 03.10.2013 at 02:38




What is Post-Hardcore then ?



actually Wikipedia explains it pretty well


Interesting O.o oh well I'll try to actually listen to some of the bands so I can understand the real musical difference.
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