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Posted by BlueMobius on 19.01.2012 at 05:27
I hear the term "False Metal" used every now and then to describe certain bands. I've heard everything from Slipknot to Daath called this. I would like to know how fellow Metal Storm users define false metal. And what are the requirements to be considered as such? What bands do you consider false metal?



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Fallen Ghost
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  03.12.2012 at 23:40
Written by Lit. on 03.12.2012 at 21:10

Written by Nukeassault on 03.12.2012 at 00:55

I would say anything that tries to make metal popular or mainstream. The whole idea of metal was to stray away from society, and bands like avenged sevenfold that are trying to make metal mainstream.

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Metal is already mainstream enough thanks to bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden, and you're acting as if the whole Glam movement didn't happen. The whole idea of metal is to not "stray away from society." Don't let the ideals of those kvlt underground black metal bands poison your mind.

Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 20:19

It doesn't exist.. But, there are shit metal!


Such as?


In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!
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Lit.
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  04.12.2012 at 01:11
Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 23:40

In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!

Hmmm...
[From Wikipedia]
We Butter The Bread With Butter = Deathcore, nintendocore, electronicore, chiptune
Attack! Attack! = Metalcore, electronicore

I think your post is kind of useless, for the discussion at least. While they are... not that good, they are still by all technicality metal. "Shit" metal is still metal, and should in no way be considered "false metal."
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mojo

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  04.12.2012 at 02:20
Thinking that Metal must be true or false, is false metal.

it's one of those phrases, if you use it, you lose. it's like the game.
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nasmith

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  04.12.2012 at 02:39
Written by mojo on 04.12.2012 at 02:20

Thinking that Metal must be true or false, is false metal.

it's one of those phrases, if you use it, you lose. it's like the game.


Goddammit you made me lose The Game....
Fallen Ghost
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  04.12.2012 at 11:03
Written by Lit. on 04.12.2012 at 01:11

Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 23:40

In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!

Hmmm...
[From Wikipedia]
We Butter The Bread With Butter = Deathcore, nintendocore, electronicore, chiptune
Attack! Attack! = Metalcore, electronicore

I think your post is kind of useless, for the discussion at least. While they are... not that good, they are still by all technicality metal. "Shit" metal is still metal, and should in no way be considered "false metal."


I just said that, there's no "false metal", but there are really bad metal music. That's all I said
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  04.12.2012 at 15:01
Why does this thread still exist?
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  04.12.2012 at 17:13
I will say that "False Metal" is Bands that should not be defined as metal at all. all have different opinions and I'm not gonna say this is what false metal is or not, but imo bands like Disturbed, Linkin park, Slipknot are not metal even though they have the genre tagged. Hard as they may be or as good, just my opinion and now lets go back listening to whatever music we like! ^^
Lit.
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  04.12.2012 at 18:21
Written by Guest on 04.12.2012 at 17:13

Disturbed, Linkin park, Slipknot

What is it with you people? Nu/Rap metal.
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Warman
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  04.12.2012 at 18:37
Do we still speak of "false metal"? Feels very much like the '90s in my opinion.
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  04.12.2012 at 18:58
Short hair hehhe ok im joking
its hard to say , well for me if band dont make me bored in 1th song then its real if does its fake, countries, style, hair dosnt metter but meter how deep they are into metal, live it or simply play it and try to copp reAL BANDS
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Guib

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  05.12.2012 at 01:48
False Metal... is something that is not metal, So Slipknot, Daath, Disturbed (...) are all metal. Wether you like it or not.
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  06.12.2012 at 11:08
How about everything that is not metal period?

Michael Jackson and Justin Bieber should take the cake.

It may not be "harder" or "metallic-like", or even "rock", but it's still not "metal" regardless.
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Delvestius

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  06.12.2012 at 20:15
First and foremost among the pretenders is metalcore... It is no more than poorly disguised pop-punk. Killswitch Engage is almost respectable in my books, because at least they're real hard punk, though I would say they're still a bit more punk than metal. If I were to go on a metal crusade, metalcore would be on the top of the target list.

Glam Metal was the 1980s version of metalcore, much more pop rock than metal. I do find pleasure in a few bands such as KISS, and Def Leppard, but I do not consider them metal proper. Of course some metal bands did indeed have Glam-influenced songs and albums, like Judas Priest and W.A.S.P.

Both of the above genres became the "face" of metal during their respective times simply because they took genres that are widely popular and added some metal influence (which admittedly is an underground genre, at least here in the states.)

Industrial Metal... Some people don't consider it metal, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be considered metal.

Nu-Metal gets really fuzzy, particularly because I feel its one of the broadest genres with the least amount of common aspects. Linkin Park, Papa Roach, ICP, Korn, Puddle of Mudd... Not Metal. To say nothing of whether I like them (which I mostly don't) I would consider bands such as Godsmack, Disturbed, Sepultura and Slipknot metal. System of a Down is one of my favorite bands, and by the end of their discography they are definitely metal (I say they started off more punk), and they are sometimes classified as nu-metal, which I'm only okay with because its such a broad genre, as opposed to easily identifiable genres such as thrash or power. Overall though, i'd say nu-metal has a higher percentage of bands that are less metal than bands that are mostly metal.
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  07.12.2012 at 07:03
Well I call them False Metal
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skrog1

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  10.03.2013 at 03:15
I don't think there's such a thing as "false metal." I think that's a misnomer. I've heard things like, "If you use a turn table, you're not metal. If you use a keyboardist, you're not metal. If you use samples, you're not metal." I find that metal is more about the feeling and emotions of the music vs. the instruments used or the image of the band.
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Nick K.

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  30.05.2013 at 18:10
There isnt a thing such as false metal. Metal is metal, period.
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  30.05.2013 at 18:28
Written by Nick K. on 30.05.2013 at 18:10

There isnt a thing such as false metal. Metal is metal, period.


Exactly !

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