‹‹ Back to the General metal forum Pages: 1 [2]
Posts: 57  
Users visited: 123  
Search this topic:  


The original post

Posted by BlueMobius on 19.01.2012 at 05:27
I hear the term "False Metal" used every now and then to describe certain bands. I've heard everything from Slipknot to Daath called this. I would like to know how fellow Metal Storm users define false metal. And what are the requirements to be considered as such? What bands do you consider false metal?



Page 2 of 2

Fallen Ghost
Proghead

Posts: 422

Age: 24
From: Norway

  03.12.2012 at 23:40
Written by Lit. on 03.12.2012 at 21:10

Written by Nukeassault on 03.12.2012 at 00:55

I would say anything that tries to make metal popular or mainstream. The whole idea of metal was to stray away from society, and bands like avenged sevenfold that are trying to make metal mainstream.

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Metal is already mainstream enough thanks to bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden, and you're acting as if the whole Glam movement didn't happen. The whole idea of metal is to not "stray away from society." Don't let the ideals of those kvlt underground black metal bands poison your mind.

Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 20:19

It doesn't exist.. But, there are shit metal!


Such as?


In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!
----
"Even we don't know anything about theory and stuff....but this is a combination of lydian mode and phrygian dominant...and ends with a diminished run starting on F"

- Fredrik Åkesson, guitarplayer of Opeth
Lit.
The Witchfinder

Posts: 3977

Age: 21
From: USA

  04.12.2012 at 01:11
Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 23:40

In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!

Hmmm...
[From Wikipedia]
We Butter The Bread With Butter = Deathcore, nintendocore, electronicore, chiptune
Attack! Attack! = Metalcore, electronicore

I think your post is kind of useless, for the discussion at least. While they are... not that good, they are still by all technicality metal. "Shit" metal is still metal, and should in no way be considered "false metal."
----
In the cold dark future, there are only assholes...
mojo

Posts: 93
From: UK

  04.12.2012 at 02:20
Thinking that Metal must be true or false, is false metal.

it's one of those phrases, if you use it, you lose. it's like the game.
----
Yeah. No. Wait, what was the question?
nasmith

Posts: 112

Age: 19
From: USA

  04.12.2012 at 02:39
Written by mojo on 04.12.2012 at 02:20

Thinking that Metal must be true or false, is false metal.

it's one of those phrases, if you use it, you lose. it's like the game.


Goddammit you made me lose The Game....
Fallen Ghost
Proghead

Posts: 422

Age: 24
From: Norway

  04.12.2012 at 11:03
Written by Lit. on 04.12.2012 at 01:11

Written by Fallen Ghost on 03.12.2012 at 23:40

In my opinion, like Attack! Attack!, We Butter The Bread With Butter and every kind of these bands!

Hmmm...
[From Wikipedia]
We Butter The Bread With Butter = Deathcore, nintendocore, electronicore, chiptune
Attack! Attack! = Metalcore, electronicore

I think your post is kind of useless, for the discussion at least. While they are... not that good, they are still by all technicality metal. "Shit" metal is still metal, and should in no way be considered "false metal."


I just said that, there's no "false metal", but there are really bad metal music. That's all I said
----
"Even we don't know anything about theory and stuff....but this is a combination of lydian mode and phrygian dominant...and ends with a diminished run starting on F"

- Fredrik Åkesson, guitarplayer of Opeth
Boxcar Willy
*sigh*

Posts: 7295

Age: 18
From: Canada

  04.12.2012 at 15:01
Why does this thread still exist?
----
forever bummed out
Chriwalker
Account deleted
  04.12.2012 at 17:13
I will say that "False Metal" is Bands that should not be defined as metal at all. all have different opinions and I'm not gonna say this is what false metal is or not, but imo bands like Disturbed, Linkin park, Slipknot are not metal even though they have the genre tagged. Hard as they may be or as good, just my opinion and now lets go back listening to whatever music we like! ^^
Lit.
The Witchfinder

Posts: 3977

Age: 21
From: USA

  04.12.2012 at 18:21
Written by Guest on 04.12.2012 at 17:13

Disturbed, Linkin park, Slipknot

What is it with you people? Nu/Rap metal.
----
In the cold dark future, there are only assholes...
Warman
Erotic Stains

Posts: 7471

Age: 25
From: Sweden

  04.12.2012 at 18:37
Do we still speak of "false metal"? Feels very much like the '90s in my opinion.
----


"The Bro Code" article 72: A bro never spell-checks.
Bad English
Masterchief

Posts: 39211

Age: 30
From: Sweden

  04.12.2012 at 18:58
Short hair hehhe ok im joking
its hard to say , well for me if band dont make me bored in 1th song then its real if does its fake, countries, style, hair dosnt metter but meter how deep they are into metal, live it or simply play it and try to copp reAL BANDS
----
Life is to short for LOVE, there is many great things to do online !!!

Stormtroopers of Death - ''Speak English or Die''

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Guib

Posts: 2069

Age: 23
From: Canada

  05.12.2012 at 01:48
False Metal... is something that is not metal, So Slipknot, Daath, Disturbed (...) are all metal. Wether you like it or not.
----
- I love my technical, melodic, my thrash, agressive and fast paced, my sludge, well thought, my heavy, heavier and my metal, ever-growing -
Dentura
Shadow King

Posts: 1187

Age: 21
From: USA

  06.12.2012 at 11:08
How about everything that is not metal period?

Michael Jackson and Justin Bieber should take the cake.

It may not be "harder" or "metallic-like", or even "rock", but it's still not "metal" regardless.
----
...And so death to the falsity of thy former rulers. Thy kingdom of "heaven" burns in a field of fire, and Dentura is the one true God thou must yield thy hearts and souls to in absolute submission. It is his ultimate decree and will unto thee..
Delvestius

Posts: 14

Age: 21
From: USA

  06.12.2012 at 20:15
First and foremost among the pretenders is metalcore... It is no more than poorly disguised pop-punk. Killswitch Engage is almost respectable in my books, because at least they're real hard punk, though I would say they're still a bit more punk than metal. If I were to go on a metal crusade, metalcore would be on the top of the target list.

Glam Metal was the 1980s version of metalcore, much more pop rock than metal. I do find pleasure in a few bands such as KISS, and Def Leppard, but I do not consider them metal proper. Of course some metal bands did indeed have Glam-influenced songs and albums, like Judas Priest and W.A.S.P.

Both of the above genres became the "face" of metal during their respective times simply because they took genres that are widely popular and added some metal influence (which admittedly is an underground genre, at least here in the states.)

Industrial Metal... Some people don't consider it metal, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be considered metal.

Nu-Metal gets really fuzzy, particularly because I feel its one of the broadest genres with the least amount of common aspects. Linkin Park, Papa Roach, ICP, Korn, Puddle of Mudd... Not Metal. To say nothing of whether I like them (which I mostly don't) I would consider bands such as Godsmack, Disturbed, Sepultura and Slipknot metal. System of a Down is one of my favorite bands, and by the end of their discography they are definitely metal (I say they started off more punk), and they are sometimes classified as nu-metal, which I'm only okay with because its such a broad genre, as opposed to easily identifiable genres such as thrash or power. Overall though, i'd say nu-metal has a higher percentage of bands that are less metal than bands that are mostly metal.
Edmund Fogg

Posts: 1752

Age: 27
From: Canada

  07.12.2012 at 07:03
Well I call them False Metal
----
You cannot sedate all the things you hate - MM
The Observer is the source of reality - Bloom
God damn it!! What did Diddy didn't do? - Satan
skrog1

Posts: 111
From: USA

  10.03.2013 at 03:15
I don't think there's such a thing as "false metal." I think that's a misnomer. I've heard things like, "If you use a turn table, you're not metal. If you use a keyboardist, you're not metal. If you use samples, you're not metal." I find that metal is more about the feeling and emotions of the music vs. the instruments used or the image of the band.
----
LIKE THE OFFICIAL SKROG FACEBOOK PAGE TODAY!!!!

http://facebook.com/Skrogband
Nick K.

Posts: 249
From: Austria

  30.05.2013 at 18:10
There isnt a thing such as false metal. Metal is metal, period.
Lady GaGa

Posts: 2334

Age: 27
From: Canada

  30.05.2013 at 18:28
Written by Nick K. on 30.05.2013 at 18:10

There isnt a thing such as false metal. Metal is metal, period.


Exactly !

----
Infernal Eternal

Posts: 601

Age: 100
From: Greece

  29.12.2014 at 14:05
False Metal, anything written out of desire to pose.
----
Brus-kuluz taurzur bûrzu tiil-ob
Hush-ob dhurum agh ufum dhurum
Tor Vautu brus-troguz
Urgai-u gukh dûmp agh tiimor

Talaan-u rûk-ir tor urûk
Nauru-ir agh kragoru nûrsu grishûrz
Nork-ulu furtun agh goth
Mordor-ob
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Fuck

Posts: 37124

Age: 46
From: The Netherlands

  29.12.2014 at 14:08
Written by Infernal Eternal on 29.12.2014 at 14:05

False Metal, anything written out of desire to pose.



That would account for most black metal...
----
Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal

Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

Infernal Eternal

Posts: 601

Age: 100
From: Greece

  29.12.2014 at 14:14
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.12.2014 at 14:08

Written by Infernal Eternal on 29.12.2014 at 14:05

False Metal, anything written out of desire to pose.



That would account for most black metal...

Well, whatever! I don't listen to these days.
----
Brus-kuluz taurzur bûrzu tiil-ob
Hush-ob dhurum agh ufum dhurum
Tor Vautu brus-troguz
Urgai-u gukh dûmp agh tiimor

Talaan-u rûk-ir tor urûk
Nauru-ir agh kragoru nûrsu grishûrz
Nork-ulu furtun agh goth
Mordor-ob
Ganondox

Posts: 534

Age: 18
From: USA

  01.01.2015 at 02:30
There is no such thing as false metal. There is only "metal" and "not metal", or more precisely "totally fucking metal", "pretty fucking metal", "you could call this fucking metal", and "not fucking metal".

Written by Delvestius on 06.12.2012 at 20:15

First and foremost among the pretenders is metalcore... It is no more than poorly disguised pop-punk. Killswitch Engage is almost respectable in my books, because at least they're real hard punk, though I would say they're still a bit more punk than metal. If I were to go on a metal crusade, metalcore would be on the top of the target list.


No it isn't not, the only metalcore bands which sounds anything like pop punk are A Day to Remember and their knockoffs. At least based on what I've heard by them, Killswitch Engage is more than a bit more metal than they are punk.

Agree with the assessment on glam, though I don't find the fact it's more pop rock than metal to make it non-metal.

As for nu metal, can't really disagree with that either.
Chronic

Posts: 128
From: USA

  01.01.2015 at 03:18
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.12.2014 at 14:08

Written by Infernal Eternal on 29.12.2014 at 14:05

False Metal, anything written out of desire to pose.



That would account for most black metal...


I don't get this
----
"You don't fucking know Jay and Silent Bob? The fucking mack daddies of fucking Jersey?"
"And she'll be like oh I read on the internet yous guys are a couple of little fuck holes."
Ganondox

Posts: 534

Age: 18
From: USA

  01.01.2015 at 18:29
Written by Chronic on 01.01.2015 at 03:18

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 29.12.2014 at 14:08

Written by Infernal Eternal on 29.12.2014 at 14:05

False Metal, anything written out of desire to pose.



That would account for most black metal...


I don't get this


How many black metal bands are actually trve in their conduct and not doing an act?
Karlabos
<insert title>

Posts: 1964

Age: 26
From: Brazil

  01.01.2015 at 19:54
^ Implying that most black metal bands act for something they're not. Maybe twenty years ago, but not today.
Nowadays bm musicians dress normally and sing about diverse stuff just like in every other genre.
----
( ˘ﮦ ᴗ ˘ﮦ) ♪ '
Lit.
The Witchfinder

Posts: 3977

Age: 21
From: USA

  01.01.2015 at 20:09
...And we're all very thankful for it.
----
In the cold dark future, there are only assholes...
Chronic

Posts: 128
From: USA

  01.01.2015 at 20:11
I get this.
----
"You don't fucking know Jay and Silent Bob? The fucking mack daddies of fucking Jersey?"
"And she'll be like oh I read on the internet yous guys are a couple of little fuck holes."
AmyR

Posts: 37

Age: 20
From: USA
  22.01.2015 at 05:57
False metal is just a term used in bigotry and elitism within the metal community. I don't believe there is such thing as "false" metal. There are just good metal bands and there are bad metal bands. While I would personally place a band like Slipknot in the bad category (maybe even atrocious), that does not make them "false" because I just don't like their music and it is not my decision to judge whether or not Slipknot is a "real" metal band. Some people just think they are the Metal Police or something.

Advertise on Metal Storm
Pages: 1 [2]


Login or register to post here.



Similar topics

Forum Topic Similarity Started
General metal forum Your Metal Budget 6 19.12.2008 by TheBigRossowski
General metal forum Your Policy on Buying Metal 6 16.08.2011 by strade
General metal forum What's in your car stereo? 6 12.04.2010 by lingus99
General metal forum Speed Metal - Your definition? 5.5 08.12.2012 by Delvestius
Metal arena Your personal Top10 Metal Songs 5 14.08.2006 by marinBG