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Posted by , 22.10.2006 - 20:47
I'm really tired of all the feminists who blames every single bad thing in the society on the men.

A few years ago the leader of the national organisation for women- and girl-helpcenters (dont know the proper english translation) said, in public, that all men are pigs. How the hell can she say something like that? How the hell can women draw the conclusion that ALL men are bad?
Afterwards, when it had been on the first page in every newspaper, there was a reporter who asked her if she still meant what she said. She answered "But all men ARE pigs. Don't YOU think so?"
When I heard that I was like "whoa!" I mean, she sounded like a freakin maniac. I was honestly scared.

Another feminist debate in Sweden was whether we would boycott the FIFA World Cup just because prostitution is legal in Germany. Some stupid feminist (can't remember name) wrote a blog about that men "should take their responsibility". She said that if you're not against it, you're with it. How the hell can she really believe that i can't enjoy football without having to fuck a prostitute after a game? Talk about preconceived opinions.
"Men are pigs" pfff... That fucking feminist blogger is nothing but a filthy animal.

Since a new party started in Swedish politics, Feministic Initiative, I am no longer a feminist. I do believe that men and women should be equal to eachother, but the word feminist has got a new meaning to me. Feminism is now a synonyme to the word "sexism".
This party wanted all men to pay a certain tax that would pay for the rehabilitation of beat up women. Fucking fascists!

And have you heard about the book "The SCUM-manifest"? The author basically says that men are the reason why the world is as bad as it is, and that all women should exterminate the male gender. Hmm, that sounds familiar somehow. Could it be MEIN KAMPF, written by freakin ADOLF HITLER??? Only the word "jew" has been replaced by the word "male".

I am not a feminist, but I am a feminimasculinist. I don't want women to run the world. I want both men AND women to do it. Therefore, I am a feminimasculinist.
All feminists should burn in hell. Boycott feminism.
23.04.2012 - 20:23
FOOCK Nam

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23.04.2012 - 20:31
Milena
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.04.2012 at 20:22

That's just it. I find feminism to be one little branch of "we don't like how we're being treated", while literally every group of people is subject to the same treatment, just in a different way.

Every race/religion/tax bracket/sexual orientation has its own pressures and issues. As much as feminists raise legitimate concerns over how they're treated, it's not like the rest of the world is counting unicorns and rainbows.

Yeah, so your point would be "since society is treating us all like crap, we should all just give up and quit fighting?"
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23.04.2012 - 20:35
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Milena on 23.04.2012 at 20:31
Yeah, so your point would be "since society is treating us all like crap, we should all just give up and quit fighting?"

My point would be if we're all being treated like crap, we should stop trying to achieve some kind of superiority for specific groups and focus on establishing humanity as a cohesive unit.

As it stands everyone just wants dominance, as much as they claim to strive for equality.
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23.04.2012 - 20:47
Milena
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.04.2012 at 20:35

My point would be if we're all being treated like crap, we should stop trying to achieve some kind of superiority for specific groups and focus on establishing humanity as a cohesive unit.

As it stands everyone just wants dominance, as much as they claim to strive for equality.

Establishing humanity as a cohesive unit is exactly what people are trying to do when they claim women, queer people, religious and racial minorities are firstly people and then everything else. If you think the whole point of, since we're in the feminism thread, feminists is to achieve dominance of women over men and create a world where men will have less chance of achieving success, less chance getting paid as much as their work is worth, where they will have no choice on what to do with their bodies (hi, genital mutilation in Africa) etc. you're utterly wrong. Of course some people would like to see that, and of course some of them gravitate towards feminism. But they are not feminists. They are misandrist.
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23.04.2012 - 20:52
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Milena on 23.04.2012 at 20:47
But they are not feminists. They are misandrist.

I feel like North American feminism and third-world feminism are very different things.

I've been arguing against North American feminism this entire time, and you've been arguing for third-world feminism. I completely agree with equality (especially with all that crap in Africa and in terms of career opportunity and all that jazz) but over here those are largely non-issues.

From what I see here feminism is basically a large group of women that are upset because they aren't as rich as Oprah or as beautiful as Kim Kardashian. That's pretty much the gist of it and that's what makes people like me scoff at the prospect of feminism in the first place.

But like I said, all of those problems that actually exist, it's a shame. I do care for those women and hopefully one day their country will look at feminism more or less the same as we do over here, since equality has essentially been about as established as it can be with the exception of obvious exploitation and marketing.
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23.04.2012 - 21:16
Milena
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.04.2012 at 20:52

But like I said, all of those problems that actually exist, it's a shame. I do care for those women and hopefully one day their country will look at feminism more or less the same as we do over here, since equality has essentially been about as established as it can be with the exception of obvious exploitation and marketing.

I sure as hell hope so
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04.05.2012 - 04:59
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http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

Here is a look into the mind of a typical feminist. This women thinks that all men should be forcibly castrated or murdered.
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04.05.2012 - 05:09
Boxcar Willy
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Written by Guest on 04.05.2012 at 04:59

http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

Here is a look into the mind of a typical feminist. This women thinks that all men should be forcibly castrated or murdered.

So lets castrate all the men?

See you in 60 years, oh wait...




No I won't.
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04.05.2012 - 06:17
Troy Killjoy
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Assuming that isn't a troll blog, she still doesn't represent the average feminist by any means.
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04.05.2012 - 08:27
R'Vannith
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Interesting, a nut wanting to remove nuts. Surely she's not serious? I don't think anyone could be that devoid of rational thought.

But that's definitely a very extreme case if its true, highly atypical.
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04.05.2012 - 12:30
Valentin B
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Written by Guest on 04.05.2012 at 04:59

http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

Here is a look into the mind of a typical feminist. This women thinks that all men should be forcibly castrated or murdered.

that's misandry by anyone's standard, if it was serious, but this is trolling deluxe.

I don't like how chivalry is still upholded by people around here, and then people wonder why girls go after the guys who take them to expensive restaurants and other shit like that, which basically means that the more money you have, the better women you can hang out with, kinda like a modern medieval wife market or some other crazy thing.

Still, I don't see feminism as being without flaws either, it's really often that feminists slip into promoting women's superiority or that men are inferior. I know there is an organisation here called "the women's organisation of Romania", which advocates equality, which I'm ok with. I checked their facebook page though and there's a picture that says "women don't gossip, they just exchange experiences", with the comment being "down with stereotypes", I just posted a comment that that is a stereotype in itself and even though I agree with the rest of their posts, this one detracts from their credibility. I know there is still a lot of work to be done around here to attain equality, here in Bucharest in the company I work in this is a non-issue as all the bosses I have to report to are female and earn a fuckton more than I do.

LOL it appears that the page in question was just a joke against a campaign that a beer company is doing these days to advocate "men's rights" and stuff like that
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05.05.2012 - 17:45
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 04.05.2012 at 05:09

Written by Guest on 04.05.2012 at 04:59

http://thefemitheist.blogspot.com/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

Here is a look into the mind of a typical feminist. This women thinks that all men should be forcibly castrated or murdered.

So lets castrate all the men?

See you in 60 years, oh wait...




No I won't.


My thoughts exactly!

You'd think that one who has the desire to be the dominant sex would at least TRY to show a little intellect :
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05.05.2012 - 18:13
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Women don't need a man's balls to procreate. There are like billions of gallons of semen stored around the world for the purpose of synthetic fertilization or whatever. Any sons they would have would probably be forced to jizz into a cup so other women could use the semen at a later time since the boys would all be castrated later in life (this would go against castration from birth, but it's still a possibility).

Why am I talking about this.
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05.05.2012 - 18:51
FOOCK Nam

Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.05.2012 at 18:13

Women don't need a man's balls to procreate. There are like billions of gallons of semen stored around the world for the purpose of synthetic fertilization or whatever. Any sons they would have would probably be forced to jizz into a cup so other women could use the semen at a later time since the boys would all be castrated later in life (this would go against castration from birth, but it's still a possibility).

Why am I talking about this.

you support that (if your) idea ?
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05.05.2012 - 19:16
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by FOOCK Nam on 05.05.2012 at 18:51
you support that (if your) idea ?

Obviously not, I'm just saying having men castrated won't weed out the male populace because of all the stored semen worldwide for artificial insemination.
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27.06.2012 - 14:57
Infernal Eternal

Feminists are awful. They think that ALL prostitutes are treated bad and that ALL of them don't want to fuck for the money! It's just silly if you take into consideration that prostitution brings a lot of money to those girls' wallets(or underwear). BTW, feminism is just as silly as National Socialism, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).
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27.06.2012 - 15:19
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Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).


Women NEED time off after being mother because a pregnancy and the birth of a child is not a simple thing. They loose lot of blood, some need surgery and everything. It's not like waking up another day and your body goes back to what it was before the pregnancy. And they also should breastfeed the baby, something that the father obviously can't do at all, and mostly of fathers also doesn't help the mother by taking care of the baby (diapers, bath, food, clothes). I can't see where a man do any work about having babies.
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27.06.2012 - 17:12
Milena
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Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

Feminists are awful. They think that ALL prostitutes are treated bad and that ALL of them don't want to fuck for the money! It's just silly if you take into consideration that prostitution brings a lot of money to those girls' wallets(or underwear). BTW, feminism is just as silly as National Socialism, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).

1) Do you know what all feminists think - have you gotten into the heads of each and every feminist on the planet? Last time I checked, there were hundreds of thousands of them.

2) Regardless of whether or not you agree with prostitution, fucking complete strangers for money isn't exactly what any person would choose if they had any other choice. Those women are in horrible position by default.

3) Tell that to your mom.

I don't like flat out telling people that they're wrong, but, you're wrong. What you wrote here is borderline offensive.
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27.06.2012 - 17:25
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

Feminists are awful. They think that ALL prostitutes are treated bad and that ALL of them don't want to fuck for the money! It's just silly if you take into consideration that prostitution brings a lot of money to those girls' wallets(or underwear). BTW, feminism is just as silly as National Socialism, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).


trolling or just incredibly stupid?
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27.06.2012 - 17:27
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Milena on 27.06.2012 at 17:12

fucking complete strangers for money isn't exactly what any person would choose if they had any other choice. Those women are in horrible position by default.




Not all, there actually are women who aren't in a horrible position at all who do that and who had a nother choice of what to do to make their money.
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27.06.2012 - 17:52
Milena
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.06.2012 at 17:27

Not all, there actually are women who aren't in a horrible position at all who do that and who had a nother choice of what to do to make their money.

Until I meet one, I won't believe that. It just sounds insane.
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27.06.2012 - 18:00
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by Milena on 27.06.2012 at 17:52

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.06.2012 at 17:27

Not all, there actually are women who aren't in a horrible position at all who do that and who had a nother choice of what to do to make their money.

Until I meet one, I won't believe that. It just sounds insane.



Just because you can fathom it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And yes there are protitutes who got into it for fun. There are women who love having sex and made their hobby into their profession. One should not confuse sex with love. Those two are two totally different things for the body and chemicals in the brain.
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27.06.2012 - 18:57
Milena
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.06.2012 at 18:00

Just because you can fathom it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Point taken, don't wanna talk about it anymore. Of course I know sex has nothing to do with love. But sex with a complete and total stranger with a risk of them being completely unpleasant, rude or even violent to you isn't a prospect many people would choose, as much as they love sex. It doesn't seem like a smart choice.
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27.06.2012 - 21:00
Angelic Storm
Melodious
I think Marcel is right, however, I would say that women who are in prostitution because they like it, and chose it when they had other viable avenues of decent employment available to them, are definitely in a minority.
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28.06.2012 - 05:05
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Milena on 27.06.2012 at 17:52
Until I meet one, I won't believe that. It just sounds insane.

Plenty of women like that around here. A co-worker of mine has a friend that does it on the side just for the sake of it, and her extra cash flow helps support her two children.
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28.06.2012 - 09:57
Milena
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 05:05

Plenty of women like that around here. A co-worker of mine has a friend that does it on the side just for the sake of it, and her extra cash flow helps support her two children.

*shrugs* if she's happy, I'm happy; I just always thought that, if you like sex, you'd still do better without making it your career.

Buuuuut that's the beauty of it; different strokes for different folks. Just hope that people who get in it for the same reason will never get hurt in any way.
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28.06.2012 - 13:24
Spirit Molecule
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Written by Milena on 28.06.2012 at 09:57

Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.06.2012 at 05:05

Plenty of women like that around here. A co-worker of mine has a friend that does it on the side just for the sake of it, and her extra cash flow helps support her two children.

*shrugs* if she's happy, I'm happy; I just always thought that, if you like sex, you'd still do better without making it your career.

Buuuuut that's the beauty of it; different strokes for different folks. Just hope that people who get in it for the same reason will never get hurt in any way.


Well its sorta like any other job. Sometimes you get shit at work coz of co-workers or your boss and most of the time coz your clients are total douche nozzles :/
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02.07.2012 - 12:06
Infernal Eternal

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.06.2012 at 17:25

Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

Feminists are awful. They think that ALL prostitutes are treated bad and that ALL of them don't want to fuck for the money! It's just silly if you take into consideration that prostitution brings a lot of money to those girls' wallets(or underwear). BTW, feminism is just as silly as National Socialism, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).


trolling or just incredibly stupid?

First part is right in my opinion but yeah, the rest is trolling.
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02.07.2012 - 12:08
Infernal Eternal

Written by Yavanna on 27.06.2012 at 15:19

Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).


Women NEED time off after being mother because a pregnancy and the birth of a child is not a simple thing. They loose lot of blood, some need surgery and everything. It's not like waking up another day and your body goes back to what it was before the pregnancy. And they also should breastfeed the baby, something that the father obviously can't do at all, and mostly of fathers also doesn't help the mother by taking care of the baby (diapers, bath, food, clothes). I can't see where a man do any work about having babies.

I was just trolling, I know women need time off after birth.
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02.07.2012 - 12:13
Infernal Eternal

Written by Milena on 27.06.2012 at 17:12

Written by Infernal Eternal on 27.06.2012 at 14:57

Feminists are awful. They think that ALL prostitutes are treated bad and that ALL of them don't want to fuck for the money! It's just silly if you take into consideration that prostitution brings a lot of money to those girls' wallets(or underwear). BTW, feminism is just as silly as National Socialism, as women are treated better than men by the state. Women get many months off work when they become mothers, although men do all the work for that(come on, you know what I mean!).

1) Do you know what all feminists think - have you gotten into the heads of each and every feminist on the planet? Last time I checked, there were hundreds of thousands of them.

2) Regardless of whether or not you agree with prostitution, fucking complete strangers for money isn't exactly what any person would choose if they had any other choice. Those women are in horrible position by default.

3) Tell that to your mom.

I don't like flat out telling people that they're wrong, but, you're wrong. What you wrote here is borderline offensive.

1) No comment

2) Prostitution helps many girls. The other option when you need money is theft and that's truly illegal.

3) Why? I'm not gonna get a kiss and a hug for good night?
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