Blakheim
Posts: 14 From: Mexico |
Totally agree, I liked Stand Up and Fight even with it's commercialism it has some good tunes, "End Of An Empire" is fucking sick if you ask me, but in here, we have nothing to hold, everything sounds lame and uninspired... anyway, they're obviously not coming back... "lost are the days..."
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LeKiwi High Fist Prog
Posts: 4038 From: UK |
LeKiwiHigh Fist ProgPosts: 4038 From: UK
Is that genuinely the album title?
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
19.10.2013 - 17:46Rating: 5
Written by LeKiwi on 19.10.2013 at 17:39
Is that genuinely the album title?
Unfortunately yes, goes to show just how lackadaisical they were about it. I think it was deliberate on their part though, surely a band couldn't really care that little to find themselves a decent album name... It strangely reflects the music inside it though.
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IronAngel
Posts: 4872 From: Finland |
The album title may not be that clever or tasteful, but I do get the point. They want to underscore that this is the state of the band today, the 2013 version of Turisas. It's not very good, but I don't think it's terrible. The album is, though.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser
Posts: 9718 From: Canada |
19.10.2013 - 23:16Rating: 3
Doc G.Full Grown HoserPosts: 9718 From: Canada
What a piece of garbage...on so many levels.
No Good Story Ever Starts With Listening To This Album.
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psykometal A staff guy...
Posts: 6101 From: USA |
I haven't found Turisas interesting since The Varangian Way.
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moe5512
Posts: 501 From: Finland |
Well, at least they did something different with this folky metal thingy But unless you're retardly open minded you won't like this album.. uh, no offense
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Svneatr Vitharr
Posts: 118 From: Canada
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20.10.2013 - 06:40Rating: 7
SvneatrVitharr Posts: 118 From: Canada
I personally place it above Stand Up And Fight, which I really didn't like
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metalwolf
Posts: 103 From: Belgium |
I saw them performing on Paganfest this year and I didn't like what I saw. The audience only got enthusiastic when they played their old material. Says it all, doesn't it?
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Krovikhan
Posts: 3 From: Spain |
20.10.2013 - 19:26Rating: 7
Turisas2013 is the most hazardous release of the year and I like it. It's no so good as the previous albums but It's enjoyable.
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Zap Guest
Posts: 3516 |
ZapGuestPosts: 3516
Written by Guest on 19.10.2013 at 23:13
What next... TURISAS2120-SPACEADVENTURES.
I've never listened to Turisas, but that would definitely make me do so.
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AngelofDeth Cyborg Raptor
Posts: 1183 From: USA |
21.10.2013 - 01:33Rating: 5
Terrible Album! And I hate say it but...
The review is almost as unfocused and scatter-shot as the album itself.
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Mattybu
Posts: 2589 From: Canada |
Shits so modern #Turisas2013 #VARANGIANswag #NoGoodStory
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
23.10.2013 - 03:00Rating: 5
Written by AngelofDeth on 21.10.2013 at 01:33
Terrible Album! And I hate say it but...
The review is almost as unfocused and scatter-shot as the album itself.
You're free to share your opinion, can't say I disagree with you either Guess the album had that effect on me it was that disappointing...
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
23.10.2013 - 03:02Rating: 5
Written by Mattybu on 21.10.2013 at 03:41
Shits so modern #Turisas2013 #VARANGIANswag #NoGoodStory
This made me chuckle, thanks man
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WinterMadness
Posts: 115 From: USA |
I think the title Turisas2013 is a satire on how important issues of today are reduced to sound bytes and hashtags. They' know that no matter what they call the album, and no matter how deep the title is, the record company and people are just going to promote it with something trite like #Turisas2013, so they cut out the middle-man.
Every new release from a band pisses off a few fans. Everyone has a point where a band isn't "tr00" enough for them.
In my opinion, while this album may not quite be "battle metal" anymore, it's still 100% Turisas.
There are folk metal fans and there are Turisas fans; the former group will bitch and moan and move on to the safer, more predictable waters of bands who put out the same album every 2 years, while the latter group excitedly awaits what Turisas has in store next.
I love folk metal, and I love Turisas. Just because those two things aren't found in the same band anymore doesn't mean I'm going to stop listening to them.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic |
EllrohirHeaven KnightPosts: 8662 From: Czech Republic
I find this review disturbingly generous
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
05.11.2013 - 14:09Rating: 5
Written by WinterMadness on 04.11.2013 at 18:10
I think the title Turisas2013 is a satire on how important issues of today are reduced to sound bytes and hashtags. They' know that no matter what they call the album, and no matter how deep the title is, the record company and people are just going to promote it with something trite like #Turisas2013, so they cut out the middle-man.
Every new release from a band pisses off a few fans. Everyone has a point where a band isn't "tr00" enough for them.
In my opinion, while this album may not quite be "battle metal" anymore, it's still 100% Turisas.
There are folk metal fans and there are Turisas fans; the former group will bitch and moan and move on to the safer, more predictable waters of bands who put out the same album every 2 years, while the latter group excitedly awaits what Turisas has in store next.
I love folk metal, and I love Turisas. Just because those two things aren't found in the same band anymore doesn't mean I'm going to stop listening to them.
Folk metal fans might not expect a lot of change, but I don't think that means they won't appreciate it when it comes. Problem with this album is it very nearly abandons the genre entirely, not a wise move to make I reckon. If you like Turisas for their folk you'll be disappointed. If you like Turisas overall and are prepared to sacrifice the folk element you may or may not be disappointed with this album. The major problem with this, in my perspective, is that it isn't nearly as well written, regardless of whether its "folky" enough or not.
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
05.11.2013 - 14:12Rating: 5
Written by Ellrohir on 04.11.2013 at 23:27
I find this review disturbingly generous
Apologies for that, but I can't deny that this is performed well enough for Turisas standards to make the poor song writing at least a little bit catchy.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic |
EllrohirHeaven KnightPosts: 8662 From: Czech Republic
Well...i adore joke bands...but i cant stand "serious" projects that unintentionally turn joke, which is pretty much this case...and it is sad because after 2nd album this band has potential...
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R'Vannith ghedengi
Posts: 3099 From: Australia |
05.11.2013 - 14:50Rating: 5
Written by Ellrohir on 05.11.2013 at 14:40
Well...i adore joke bands...but i cant stand "serious" projects that unintentionally turn joke, which is pretty much this case...and it is sad because after 2nd album this band has potential...
I agree completely, it seems like they're unnecessarily betraying themselves.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
Posts: 8662 From: Czech Republic |
EllrohirHeaven KnightPosts: 8662 From: Czech Republic
Just listened to "Battle Metal" today...sigh
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser
Posts: 9718 From: Canada |
18.09.2014 - 22:51Rating: 3
Doc G.Full Grown HoserPosts: 9718 From: Canada
Written by R'Vannith on 05.11.2013 at 14:09
Written by WinterMadness on 04.11.2013 at 18:10
I think the title Turisas2013 is a satire on how important issues of today are reduced to sound bytes and hashtags. They' know that no matter what they call the album, and no matter how deep the title is, the record company and people are just going to promote it with something trite like #Turisas2013, so they cut out the middle-man.
Every new release from a band pisses off a few fans. Everyone has a point where a band isn't "tr00" enough for them.
In my opinion, while this album may not quite be "battle metal" anymore, it's still 100% Turisas.
There are folk metal fans and there are Turisas fans; the former group will bitch and moan and move on to the safer, more predictable waters of bands who put out the same album every 2 years, while the latter group excitedly awaits what Turisas has in store next.
I love folk metal, and I love Turisas. Just because those two things aren't found in the same band anymore doesn't mean I'm going to stop listening to them.
Folk metal fans might not expect a lot of change, but I don't think that means they won't appreciate it when it comes. Problem with this album is it very nearly abandons the genre entirely, not a wise move to make I reckon. If you like Turisas for their folk you'll be disappointed. If you like Turisas overall and are prepared to sacrifice the folk element you may or may not be disappointed with this album. The major problem with this, in my perspective, is that it isn't nearly as well written, regardless of whether its "folky" enough or not.
Yeah, I know, old post.
I was just revisiting this album over the past few days, mostly because I don't want to believe a band I loved this much would put out something that shitty. I mean, Stand Up And Fight wasn't great, but it had its moments. The Varangian Way is still one of my all-time favorite albums.
This is most comparable to new Opeth as far as departures go - abandoning a key element in their music for a new direction. Heritage I found to be way too derivative, but Pale Communion is a respectable release. It's not something I'm too keen on, but it definitely sounds like they made up for that abandoned element with some substance in their music. Once again, not something I personally like, but I can recognize the quality there.
Then we have Turisas, who pulled a similar move. Stripping down their music, after years of having a really full, grandiose sound. The issue is, they didn't really replace it with anything. I'm not exaggerating when I say this - Turisas2013 sounds like half-finished demo versions of material from some Stand Up And Fight sessions. When the music is stripped down, you're left to focus solely on individual riffs or melodies, rather than that epic, cinematic atmosphere their old albums had. Unfortunately, they offered little as far as good riffs, logical, memorable song structure, or melodies. So as R'Vannith said, it's got nothing to do with the lack of "folkyness", but rather it being devoid of substance. I would have been fine with a departure in sound had they made up for it in other departments, they didn't.
I have my own speculation on the topic. It strikes me that Nygard has created a monster. I think as an artist he's growing tired of the whole "epic folk" thing faster than his fans are. Instead of taking his music in a respectful direction (or even starting a different project for that matter), he turns around and mocks his old material, and most of the fans in the process. I think he wants to shed the whole epic Viking/barbarian/folk metal image and sound, but he's done it in the most ungraceful way possible. Just a feeling I get.
That being said, Turisas never make the same album twice, so hopefully the next venture won't be such a pile of ill-advised shit.
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