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Posted by deadone on 28.02.2014 at 03:41
Those frisky Ruskis are peeved off their little stooge in the Ukraine is gone.

They still control a massive naval base in Crimea and large chunks of the Ukrainian population are pro-Russian.


And there's news of Russian military build ups on the border and in Crimea itself:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article18446661.ab

http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=103578

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/ryskt-stridsflyg-redo-for-attack/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26366700

I could see the Russians doing a limited incursion to secure a link between Russia and Crimean peninsula.


Either that or shut down natural gas exports and kill what's left of the Ukrainian economy .



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Rasputin

Posts: 273
From: USA
  31.12.2014 at 18:30
Well that is not what EU advertises, it advertises prosperity for anyone who integrates and that did not happen and will not happen. So you condone them using radioactive materials in their bombs, instigating wars, toppling governments and playing the world police just like USA does? Interesting.

And our fucked up economies would not have been fucked up, if someone did not unleash its aggression and destroy our industry and infrastructure. And no, you do not admit to your fuck ups, you cover them up, just like you cover up the drug dealing, gun smuggling and organ extraction in Kosovo, because you let your pets do whatever they please, because your generals and politicians get a nice cut from it.

One thing I agree, we should take care of our corrupt government, but you know what is funny and interesting? You have to ask yourself who corrupted them and who's mission objectives are they executing? And the answer is EU and USA, because the end result would be another "peace keeping" mission and more destruction.

So get off your high horse of how great you are, you are no better than this Russia that you constantly bitch at. If we just compare the list of wars in the last 50 years, USA/NATO are way way way up there with invading, bombing and extorting. Russia does some things regionally, you do it Globally, but you just keep repeating to yourself that it is for a good cause, if that will help you sleep at night.
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Masterchief

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Age: 30
From: Sweden

  31.12.2014 at 20:40
Written by Rasputin on 31.12.2014 at 18:30

Well that is not what EU advertises, it advertises prosperity for anyone who integrates and that did not happen and will not happen. So you condone them using radioactive materials in their bombs, instigating wars, toppling governments and playing the world police just like USA does? Interesting.

And our fucked up economies would not have been fucked up, if someone did not unleash its aggression and destroy our industry and infrastructure. And no, you do not admit to your fuck ups, you cover them up, just like you cover up the drug dealing, gun smuggling and organ extraction in Kosovo, because you let your pets do whatever they please, because your generals and politicians get a nice cut from it.

One thing I agree, we should take care of our corrupt government, but you know what is funny and interesting? You have to ask yourself who corrupted them and who's mission objectives are they executing? And the answer is EU and USA, because the end result would be another "peace keeping" mission and more destruction.

So get off your high horse of how great you are, you are no better than this Russia that you constantly bitch at. If we just compare the list of wars in the last 50 years, USA/NATO are way way way up there with invading, bombing and extorting. Russia does some things regionally, you do it Globally, but you just keep repeating to yourself that it is for a good cause, if that will help you sleep at night.


EU 1th idea was no costume travel, even in 70's you can not so easy as now travel from France to Sapin
EU economics was destroyed in election circle when basically all countries vote in nationalists and when socialists lose

not really 1th of E Europe and Grece, Italy fucked all up whit stupid mentality then EU, US, ... why W Europe has no deep problems, east has still post soviet mentality

Rus does it yes, but now VP tries unite idiotism what whole E Europe suffer, non would care what he does in Chechenia, if he wont now in last year fucked up.
USSR is lost, Baltics is free and non wants back there evne Russian minority (what Rus media says they are discriminated, which is lies) (to not be rus hater I will say US media make same propaganda about invading Serbia as Rus TV does about Ukr ..)
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Deria Daisy

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Age: 28
From: Ukraine

  26.02.2015 at 19:43
Everybody afraids of an angry bear.
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Masterchief

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Age: 30
From: Sweden

  26.02.2015 at 20:43
Written by Deria Daisy on 26.02.2015 at 19:43

Everybody afraids of an angry bear.
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not all ... besides Rus has secrets , military experts say they use soviet army tacktics and non know how much nukes, subs and other things are on service...
Rus cant win modern NATO army , specially since most of military equipment modern are made in the West.

it means US can use satalite and jam Rus radars , how did they do whit Pakistanian when OBL was killed

but if its me my dessision, I never ever would give them anything and those sanctions should start whit gfass, oil and military insdustries
I want see week Russia weeker as in 1991 - 1995 and only NATO countries can have nukes
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deadone
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From: Australia

  27.02.2015 at 00:03
Written by Bad English on 26.02.2015 at 20:43

not all ... besides Rus has secrets , military experts say they use soviet army tacktics and non know how much nukes, subs and other things are on service...
Rus cant win modern NATO army , specially since most of military equipment modern are made in the West.



When will you figure out technology is irrelevant especially when NATO is spineless and doesn't have the willpower to fight and the Russians field enough nuclear weapons to turn the USA and Europe into a glass car park.

The West doesn't have the will to fight Putin even if he chews up the Baltic states. A Finnish military report several years aho argued NATO would not get involved even if Russian tanks were rumbling through Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania mainly due to German political resistance. And now that the Russians have started in Ukraine, Germany just wants to appease them. Also some NATO partners like Hungary and even Greece are becoming very friendly with Putin. EU member Cyprus has just allowed the Russian Navy to use its ports.

The West has let Russia take Crimea. The sanctions on Russia for actions in Eastern Ukraine aren't stopping Russia. In fact they're hurting countries like Finland, Bulgaria and Hungary a lot too as well as the Germans. Basically EU and NATO are split between those who are anti-Russian regardless of what Russia does (USA and UK as well as Poland) and those who don't like what Russia's doing but don't want to hurt their economies or have WWIII start (continental Europe for most part)

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I want see week Russia weeker as in 1991 - 1995 and only NATO countries can have nukes



I think you and the rest of Western Europe will be turned into nuclear ash before the Russians let that happen. And the Germans will ensure this never happens - better to be under the Russian yoke than dead and your country a nuclear wasteland.


And a picture tells a thousand words:

Hiroshima 1945



Nagasaki 1945





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Masterchief

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Age: 30
From: Sweden

  27.02.2015 at 01:36
Ausie one, ok Pakistan, India has nukes as well, unless Rus has not those I don't care what has it

BTW if there wont be USA MS might not exist ... in there would be big chance Rus would invade MS server city ... I suppose most of you don't have no clea where server is
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  27.02.2015 at 02:28
Written by Bad English on 27.02.2015 at 01:36

Ausie one, ok Pakistan, India has nukes as well, unless Rus has not those I don't care what has it


What do Pakistan and India have to do with a potential NATO-Russia war?.


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BTW if there wont be USA MS might not exist ... in there would be big chance Rus would invade MS server city ... I suppose most of you don't have no clea where server is


Somewhere in Estonia from memory?
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Masterchief

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Age: 30
From: Sweden

  27.02.2015 at 02:33
Written by deadone on 27.02.2015 at 02:28



Somewhere in Estonia from memory?



it is affirmative

about Nato -Rus war
Nato did not start it, it was Rus , violating all international laws, but same time where Ukr was in 1995? 2000 they could go to Europe earlier
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From: Australia

  27.02.2015 at 03:09
Written by Bad English on 27.02.2015 at 02:33

Nato did not start it, it was Rus , violating all international laws,


It's what big powers do - remember US invasion of Iraq was against international law too.

In any case there won't be a NATO-Russia war. West will let Russia swallow up Ukraine and even Baltic states without batting an eyelid.


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but same time where Ukr was in 1995? 2000 they could go to Europe earlier


They were too chummy with Russians and too incompetent at running their own economy to ever engage properly with Europe.
BestMetalstormer

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Age: 27
From: Vietnam

  27.02.2015 at 18:42
Iraq war was lawlegited becuz they werw assuming iraq saddam having destructionak weapons..
deadone
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  27.02.2015 at 22:46
Written by BestMetalstormer on 27.02.2015 at 18:42

Iraq war was lawlegited becuz they werw assuming iraq saddam having destructionak weapons..



You do realise that North Korea, India, Iran, Israel, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan etc have weapons of mass destruction in addition to USA, UK, France, China and Russia?

And under international law you just can't attack someone for having certain weapons.


Basically Iraq was illegal.
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Potorro

Posts: 1588
From: Spain

  27.02.2015 at 23:13
The fact of having WMD itself was not the reason (even if false, as proven afterwards) but rather coz Irak did not respect the UN resolutions of disarment and inspections which was "perceived" as a threat by a few countries considering the recent military history of Saddam's regime. Obviously, this was once again a convenience to legitimize the actions (otherwise a couple of countries should be under military occupation if they truly wanted to inforce international laws) but that's how things work with this kind of crap.
BestMetalstormer

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Age: 27
From: Vietnam

  27.02.2015 at 23:17
I cant say my opinion, when iraq war happened i was high school dude, no observe much...but afghan war becuz Sept 11, so Afghan war is war agaisnt terroism,.. serbian kosovo war under clinton was like war against conviction crime on humankind..iraq war was like saddam have mass destruction weapon, and crime saddam did that murdered 8000 Kurds..but i dont know, but i dont think they make a war with wrong reason, actually before the war they think its right.. that means its war with purpose.. if speaking from personal judgmental individual is different to speaking for justifying by war joiners... i mean usa can attack iraq for having mass weapon, murder kurds, support terroism alqueada (this is quite surprised why the hell so many bombing and terroistcal after saddam overthrew and terrioist floods over all iraq), but i dont know intermational law, could be UN stuff..
deadone
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  27.02.2015 at 23:19
Written by BestMetalstormer on 27.02.2015 at 23:17

I cant say my opinion, when iraq war happened i was high school dude, no observe much...but afghan war becuz Sept 11, so Afghan war is war agaisnt terroism,.. serbian kosovo war under clinton was like war against conviction crime on humankind..iraq war was like saddam have mass destruction weapon, and crime saddam did that murdered 8000 Kurds..but i dont know, but i dont think they make a war with wrong reason, actually before the war they think its right.. that means its war with purpose.. if speaking from personal judgmental individual is different to speaking for justifying by war joiners... i mean usa can attack iraq for having mass weapon, murder kurds, support terroism alqueada (this is quite surprised why the hell so many bombing and terroistcal after saddam overthrew and terrioist floods over all iraq), but i dont know intermational law, could be UN stuff..


Iraq never supported Al Qaeda - that was Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and USA as never bombed or invaded them.

If human rights abuses, support of terrorism and ownership of WMD is enough to justify a US attack, then why hasn't the US attacked Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Sudan, Qatar, Turkey, Iran, Syria, Israel etc

Indeed the USA supported jihadis in Libya and Syria, which is technically supporting terrorism in those countries. So should the US bomb itself?

No good or bad guys, just powerful countries doing as they please.
BestMetalstormer

Posts: 3452

Age: 27
From: Vietnam

  Today at 01:38
Its not what they do as for they please, its what they need to do when they can and in of being needed. the position of powerful guys among the group is not that easy for fun, more power more responsibility..

all of countries you mentioned, will be taken care as well, the point is time, even vietnam and china violates human rights, but its long run when nam will be taken care of. i would like to share this that after united nation and vietnam shared the humanrights oath commitment, convict are no longer must wear prisoner cloths at court, and can be non hand cuffed..all that human rights stuff and even animal care are made in nam effectively by the infulence of humanrights united nation, orgnization global care.. even indonesia, mexico, latin, current situation is not well, but usa do spread infuluence through finance and military to stablize.. all contry you mention, they are doing bad things too, but they know they are must be under usa and the western influnce and support the west, eg saudi arab, they themselfe violates human rights, but they currently support usa, if they dont they know they will be gone, thats also they dont support terroism.. same with pakistan... generally ppl there dont like usa too, but govern,ent cooperate with usa in term of Business of collobration, so at least the west and usa have the help in term govermental, so make all military purpose more success even without heart felt.. even the whole vietnam hates usa cuz usa fuking richm but generally, on diplomat business, they are partners.. united nation have a oath of fight spreading human rights the standard living etc over theworld, i got the picture of the oath content but forgot where to find, ill show you later..

all of country you mentioned are will be taken care later, they cant handle All immediately, need steps by steps, even afghan wanted usa help building economy but becuz of with soviet, so usa abadon afghan, so after taliban war, afghan dont trust usa and want usa soon leave..

in the case of jihads in syria, i dont quite understand the strategy of usa, but maybe they have no choice, jihad fight bal ashsad, but usa need to overthrow balashaad, or i think the price of jihad is cheaper than the syrian goverment so they want using jihad to fight balashaad.. you know both case you have only one option, best must calculated.. yea its still politics even the religious war..

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