Rating abuse
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Original post
Posted by Groby94, 11.10.2014 - 19:08
Something should be done about this, not because of stupid reasons as "my favorite band isn't 1st place omg". The rating system should reflect the real overall opinion of the users on the album (duh), and it should help other users decide whether they would want to give the album a shot or not (among other factors, of course).
Risto Wandering Midget |
01.11.2016 - 12:57 Written by Oykan Övgü on 01.11.2016 at 12:36 Who? No action will be taken without any actual links to user profiles.
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Oykan Övgü |
01.11.2016 - 13:16 Written by Risto on 01.11.2016 at 12:57 http://www.metalstorm.net/users/NORTHSIDE/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/REBELS/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/NorthCity/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/NorthRebelion/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/WarriorsOfNorth/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/Legions/profile
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psykometal A staff guy... |
Written by Oykan Övgü on 01.11.2016 at 13:16 Good eye. Yes, every one of these was the same person, plus a few more you didn't notice. All ratings deleted and all accounts banned. *And they had done most of that account creation and ratings abuse in just the last couple of hours. The user was actually logged into their main account when I banned that one, so that should be a nice little [immediate] surprise - going about their business upvoting albums and then suddenly they go to click Submit and nothing is happening, so they refresh the page and *BOOM* logged out and greeted with a nice little message informing them they have been total banned for "multi account ratings abuse".
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Risto Wandering Midget |
04.11.2016 - 12:49
Http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=159668 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=159370 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161093 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161051 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161047 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161035 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161036 Some suspicious stuff going on there, especially the last few that have user ID's close to each other (even one blatant giveaway in an email address). The first couple or so are just mostly albums from this year.
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Nicko's Nose |
05.11.2016 - 01:51
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=160563 I even remember that user saying something like "you gave a low rating to one of my favorite albums of the year, so I'm gonna give 1/10 to your favorite albums of the year" a couple of months ago. Edit: Found it: Written by Guest on 24.07.2016 at 12:24
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psykometal A staff guy... |
06.11.2016 - 05:03 Written by Risto on 04.11.2016 at 12:49 All but the first 2 were defo up to no good and have been dealt with. Those first 2 though, not entirely "beyond a shadow of a doubt". The guy with all 10s is a little suspect, but not full blown retard. Same with the guy who has some small variation in his ratings. And none of the accounts are connected via same IP at all, so can't use that as a deciding factor. Sorry. But still, good hunting, and thanks for the report!
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psykometal A staff guy... |
06.11.2016 - 05:51 Written by Nicko's Nose on 05.11.2016 at 01:51 All ratings nuked. Thanks for the report!
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tominator At best deranged |
22.12.2016 - 17:34
Just found these ones: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/saponat/profile He rates: Powerslave, The Number Of The Beast, Rust In Peace, Led Zeppelin IV with a 1/10 score http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=113410 Again Powerslave, The Number Of The Beast, Rust In Peace are rated with a 1/10 as well as Blackwater Park. What a coincidence that those albums are in the top 20 albums of all time... On top of that some of the ratings for Metallica albums seem a bit high... http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=110347 This one is completely obvious. He has 5 votes of a 1/10 and they all happen to be in the top 20 of the best albums of all time list... The 3 Iron Maiden albums in the top 20, Painkiller and Rust In Peace. Every Opeth album on the other hand gets a 10/10. http://www.metalstorm.net/users/Destripador/profile 7 votes in total => 6 10s and 1 - 1/10 which is Rust In Peace... http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=153897 Sure as hell not a Bullet For My Valentine fan... and the number 1 album of 2015 (Under The Red Cloud) is apparently also a 1 http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=17914 15 votes: 14 - 10/10 and 1 - 1/10... http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=153281 Not a fan of Slayer it would seem... South Of Heaven, Seasons In The Abyss and Reign In Blood are a 1/10... Nor a Priest fan... Defender Of The Faith: 1/10, Painkiller 2/10 and a couple of 1/10 scores for AC/DC as well (including Back In Black and Highway To Hell).
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!J.O.O.E.! Account deleted |
22.12.2016 - 17:49 !J.O.O.E.!
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Rating well received / famous albums a 1 isn't vote abuse in and of itself... only 2 of those links count imo.
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Karlabos Meat and Potatos |
22.12.2016 - 19:58
Yeah, those vote patterns still aren't obvious enough, I'd say
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tominator At best deranged |
24.12.2016 - 12:04 Written by Guest on 22.12.2016 at 17:49 I don't know, I personally find it very suspicious when multiple albums that are in general regarded as some of the best ever made suddenly get a 1/10 vote. And in most cases it's not even the albums from 1 band but multiple different bands. The chance you give an Opeth album 1/10, a Megadeth album 1/10 and an Iron Maiden album 1/10 are quite low unless you want to drag their score down... I'm sorry but that looks really suspicious to me...
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D.T. Metal |
06.01.2017 - 04:16 Written by psykometal on 06.11.2016 at 05:51 hey, did you see the post from tominator where he lists a whole slew of potential rating abusers?
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psykometal A staff guy... |
16.01.2017 - 22:57 Written by D.T. Metal on 06.01.2017 at 04:16 I did, and I started looking into them, but internet went down for me during my investigation, and it just started working again today; I don't actually pay for internet, my father has an Xfinity account and one of my neighbors has Xfinity (all Xfinity routers also broadcast hot spots) so I use my dad's login info to get "free" internet, and so because of that whenever there's an issue with the neighbor's router or service, I'm SOL for internet until they call into Comcast to get a tech to come fix it. :shrug:
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un/heart/ed The Sufferer |
29.01.2017 - 14:27
These profiles belong to the same guy, obviously. I have spotted four profiles, probably there's more. Pain of Salvation's new album is the one that you should look into. There is so much abnormality going on there. http://www.metalstorm.net/users/POSfan1989/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/PerfectElement89/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/remedylane/profile http://www.metalstorm.net/users/FallingHome/profile
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!J.O.O.E.! Account deleted |
!J.O.O.E.!
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Someone might want to have a look at the ratings on The SLoT's profile...
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Karlabos Meat and Potatos |
10.02.2017 - 02:48
There's a piece of related discussion on the band thread as well
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psykometal A staff guy... |
11.02.2017 - 18:21
Sorry, been busy irl. Will deal with these posts when I get home from work later.
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Nihil Aeternum |
13.02.2017 - 13:43 Written by Guest on 09.02.2017 at 02:49 There seem to be DOZENS of fake accounts with 10-ratings for their whole discography.
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psykometal A staff guy... |
13.02.2017 - 17:58 Written by un/heart/ed on 29.01.2017 at 14:27 Gotta love IP address tracking; just banned 45 accounts - these 4 + all the other 41 accounts were all the same person. Thanks for the report!
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psykometal A staff guy... |
13.02.2017 - 18:02
Regarding The Slot, I'll dig into that one later. My brain and eyes are a little whooped from the last 45 dispatched accounts. Gonna go back to Seven Deadly Sins for a while.
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Nicko's Nose |
14.02.2017 - 07:52
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=112232 Obviously didn't want to see the Pain of Salvation album above the other 2 albums.
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Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha |
14.02.2017 - 08:25 Written by Nicko's Nose on 14.02.2017 at 07:52 Keep an eye on his ratings before he start rocketing his favs and dump others. It looks like he's heading towards that tunnel.
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lond Posts: 4 From: UK |
24.02.2017 - 23:30
Hi, I have noticed that Shaarimoth's album even though it has average rating of 8.40 by more than 20 users is not featured in top20 list while albums with the lower rating are. Can anyone tell me what can be the reason for this?
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Nihil Aeternum |
25.02.2017 - 01:28
Can anybody from MS staff please care about those dozens of fake accounts that rate only The SLoT albums.
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Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha |
25.02.2017 - 10:42 Written by lond on 24.02.2017 at 23:30 Shaarimoth's profile is invisible. Only visible profiles shows up in top 20, Charts, Top 200 or Top 2016.
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Goat Pimp Posts: 13 From: Romania |
25.02.2017 - 12:39 Written by Nicko's Nose on 14.02.2017 at 07:52 I have a binary mind too, either i hate something or not... I do the same thing on imdb, not sure about ms
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D.T. Metal |
28.02.2017 - 22:25 Written by Guest on 09.02.2017 at 02:49 their fans registered because the band was nom'ed in the MSA. I will keep an eye on this and if those who voted the albums up are not participating on MS or haven't signed in after they registered, I will nuke all those votes
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Grind Magus Weak Cunt |
18.03.2017 - 11:47
I may have found several multi accounts. They're voting 10's on several of the same albums, similar naming system, and all of them uses the same Czech email client. http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162295 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162296 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162400 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163693 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163759 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163818 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163826 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163829 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163914 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163916 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163918 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163919 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163920 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163922 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163923 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164013 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164015 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164336 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164351 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164508 i also checked out the votes in Pain of Salvation latest album and found these accounts to be suspicious, if not, throwaway accounts to boost the rating of that album. http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162255 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162276 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162278 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162279 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162573 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162574 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=162575 http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163558
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D.T. Metal |
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Oykan Övgü |
15.04.2017 - 15:36
All the 10's for this album are from the same guy. http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=91486
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