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Original post

Posted by Groby94, 11.10.2014 - 19:08
I just noticed this happening today. I checked all of the top albums this year and most of their ratings suddenly went down, and that's because of several 1 ratings appeared out of nowhere during the night.

Something should be done about this, not because of stupid reasons as "my favorite band isn't 1st place omg". The rating system should reflect the real overall opinion of the users on the album (duh), and it should help other users decide whether they would want to give the album a shot or not (among other factors, of course).
26.04.2017 - 15:18
Grind Magus
Weak Cunt
All of these accounts were made in early April and seemed to be created solely for rating Domina's Stabat Mater a 10.

http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165954
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165955
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165956
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165957
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165960
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165965
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165967
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165986
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=166051

Also, I'm gonna compile all of the suspicious accounts that was used in rating The Slot albums a few months ago.
I'll post them here as soon as I can (unless someone nukes their votes before I can post them).
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19.05.2017 - 04:12
Nicko's Nose
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=161648&r_order=rating

Gave a bunch of albums in the top 20 of 2017 1/10. Pretty sure he didn't listen to them.
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19.05.2017 - 04:32
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by Oykan Övgü on 15.04.2017 at 15:36

All the 10's for this album are from the same guy. http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=91486

not all of the 10's - but I cleaned those who were obvious
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19.05.2017 - 04:35
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by Grind Magus on 26.04.2017 at 15:18

All of these accounts were made in early April and seemed to be created solely for rating Domina's Stabat Mater a 10.

http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165954
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165955
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165956
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165957
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165960
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165965
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165967
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=165986
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=166051

Also, I'm gonna compile all of the suspicious accounts that was used in rating The Slot albums a few months ago.
I'll post them here as soon as I can (unless someone nukes their votes before I can post them).

got rid of all the above one's and yes please, if you could make a list of all those TheSlot ratings, it would be highly appreciated
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02.06.2017 - 00:29
Nicko's Nose
Mrjwashere: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=153163&r_order=rating

Gave ATLEAST 5 top 20 2017 albums 1/10.

Also 1/10 is his most used rating.
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18.07.2017 - 18:33
Grind Magus
Weak Cunt
Nearly all of these accounts were made in February or March with very suspiciously similar dates, only accessed once, and its sole purpose is either to boost ratings of albums by The Slot or their latest release, Septima.
I may have missed a couple of them due to the massive amount of suspicious accounts.

http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163032
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163050
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163054
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163088
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163259
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163314
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163317
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163318
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163324
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163383
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163384
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163385
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163386
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163387
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163389
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163390
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163391
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163392
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163394
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163395
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163396
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163397
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163401
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163403
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163404
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163405
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163408
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163410
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163411
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163413
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163414
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163415
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163416
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163417
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163418
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163419
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163420
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163421
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163422
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163423
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163424
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163425
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163427
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163428
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163429
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163430
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163438
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163439
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163440
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163441
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163456
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163457
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163459
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163510
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163511
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163512
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163513
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163514
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163515
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163516
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163517
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163518
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163519
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163520
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163528
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163531
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163546
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163551
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163552
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163553
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163582
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163584
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163642
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163664
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163667
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163710
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163777
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163778
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163780
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163782
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163783
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163784
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163791
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163792
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163796
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163797
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163798
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163799
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163802
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163804
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163806
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163808
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163809
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163811
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163812
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163813
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163814
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163815
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163832
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163833
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163834
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163836
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163837
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163847
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163848
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163850
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163851
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163852
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163854
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163856
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163901
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163903
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163904
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163905
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163906
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163910
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163911
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163912
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163913
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163924
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163926
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163957
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163959
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163961
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163962
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163963
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163964
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163965
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163966
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163969
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163970
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163971
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163973
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163974
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=163977
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164085
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164086
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164168
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164171
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164172
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164173
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164174
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164175
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164210
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164212
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164213
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164215
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164216
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164219
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164346
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164347
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164348
http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=164884

Good luck to whoever is going to go through all of this.
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18.07.2017 - 18:58
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
Woah, look at those ids on the url. They are all almost sequential
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26.07.2017 - 14:55
Ball Fondlers
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=122534

Clear vote abuse, all in the top 5, all 1/10

Kreator - Gods Of Violence
Mors Principium Est - Embers Of A Dying World
Persefone - Aathma
Wormwood - Ghostlands - Wounds From A Bleeding Earth

Plus all the other 1/10 are basically against classic albums
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26.07.2017 - 15:04
Ball Fondlers
Same story with this user: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=168592

Why do this?
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26.07.2017 - 20:18
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by Ball Fondlers on 26.07.2017 at 14:55

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=122534

Clear vote abuse, all in the top 5, all 1/10

Kreator - Gods Of Violence
Mors Principium Est - Embers Of A Dying World
Persefone - Aathma
Wormwood - Ghostlands - Wounds From A Bleeding Earth

Plus all the other 1/10 are basically against classic albums

I don't know about this one. Looking at his total votes he has tons of classic albums rated with 10 also. His musical taste is all over the place but tends more to the 'lighter' side of things. I will leave this one alone.
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26.07.2017 - 20:23
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by Ball Fondlers on 26.07.2017 at 15:04

Same story with this user: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=168592

Why do this?

same with this guys. look at his overall album ratings by bands. He clearly doesn't like Body Count but his votes are otherwise all over the place
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26.07.2017 - 20:50
psykometal
A staff guy...
Elite
I have worked on some of Mr. Cheeky's latest report, up to user id 163410. Have to go get ready for work now.
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27.07.2017 - 03:04
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by psykometal on 26.07.2017 at 20:50

I have worked on some of Mr. Cheeky's latest report, up to user id 163410. Have to go get ready for work now.

I did the rest. All the Slot rate abusers should be taken care of now; what a mess
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31.07.2017 - 09:30
Nicko's Nose
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=168592&r_order=rating

Attempted to get a bunch of 2017 top 20 albums out of the top 20 by giving them 1/10.
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29.08.2017 - 05:40
Nicko's Nose
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.
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01.09.2017 - 11:21
cobrapel
Concept One
Written by Nicko's Nose on 29.08.2017 at 05:40

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.

He rated 9 Hardwired... To Self-Destruct and 1 Ride The Lightning.... i think only his tastes are horrible
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08.09.2017 - 03:25
Nicko's Nose
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=173443

10: 51 votes
9: 1 vote
1: 13 votes

If that isn't rating abuse then I don't know what is.
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16.09.2017 - 05:02
Nicko's Nose
Written by Nicko's Nose on 29.08.2017 at 05:40

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.

His most used ratings are 10 and 1. Obvious rating abuse.
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16.09.2017 - 11:34
Polaria
Written by Nicko's Nose on 16.09.2017 at 05:02

Written by Nicko's Nose on 29.08.2017 at 05:40

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.

His most used ratings are 10 and 1. Obvious rating abuse.

It's not because he seems to be using the rating system differently than you that it is intended rating abuse.
You should chill a bit about this.
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16.09.2017 - 16:41
Azarath
Free as a.. Fish
His Metallica ratings alone constitute abuse.
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16.09.2017 - 23:48
Nicko's Nose
Written by Polaria on 16.09.2017 at 11:34

Written by Nicko's Nose on 16.09.2017 at 05:02

Written by Nicko's Nose on 29.08.2017 at 05:40

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.

His most used ratings are 10 and 1. Obvious rating abuse.

It's not because he seems to be using the rating system differently than you that it is intended rating abuse.
You should chill a bit about this.

He gave exactly 9 2017 albums 1/10 (and I'm pretty sure all of them were in the top 20 at some point). It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he attempted to get those albums lower in the top 20 or out of it so his favorite albums of the year (the 6 he gave 10/10) would get higher in it.

I'm not sure why you insist on defending people who are clearly breaking the rules.
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17.09.2017 - 01:12
Polaria
Written by Nicko's Nose on 16.09.2017 at 23:48

Written by Polaria on 16.09.2017 at 11:34

Written by Nicko's Nose on 16.09.2017 at 05:02

Written by Nicko's Nose on 29.08.2017 at 05:40

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=167048&r_order=rating

Gave atleast 5 2017 albums he didn't listen to 1/10.

His most used ratings are 10 and 1. Obvious rating abuse.

It's not because he seems to be using the rating system differently than you that it is intended rating abuse.
You should chill a bit about this.

He gave exactly 9 2017 albums 1/10 (and I'm pretty sure all of them were in the top 20 at some point). It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he attempted to get those albums lower in the top 20 or out of it so his favorite albums of the year (the 6 he gave 10/10) would get higher in it.

I'm not sure why you insist on defending people who are clearly breaking the rules.

I don't understand why you're getting so upset about all those charts. Sure spot the obvious cases of rating abuse if you want to spend your time at that but don't turn this into a witch hunt. At the end we will have to justify why we gave a 10 or a 1 to an album.

I am quite sure MS users take the 1 rating with a grain of salt anyway.
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11.11.2017 - 02:00
Nicko's Nose
Looks like we have a serial downrater: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=176587

Total votes: 374
1/10 votes: 289
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13.11.2017 - 00:02
nikarg
Staff
There are currently five "1" votes for the new Moonspell and I suspect they are all from the same person.
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13.11.2017 - 13:40
cobrapel
Concept One
Should be avoided to rate to new users for at least 2-3 weeks. Could be reduced thousands of multi-account.
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02.12.2017 - 00:38
D.T. Metal
Staff
Written by cobrapel on 13.11.2017 at 13:40

Should be avoided to rate to new users for at least 2-3 weeks. Could be reduced thousands of multi-account.

Good point... I am looking into this if we can implement this
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02.12.2017 - 02:02
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
^Aww yes. At last!
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02.12.2017 - 02:51
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
I am surprised people care that much about so-called rating abuse. Who cares if someone downvotes or upvotes albums? Oh wait way too many peopl do. To those that care that much I want to say... breathe in, breathe out, move on, get a life, etc. Btw I also want to say that to the so-called abusers.
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02.12.2017 - 14:08
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2017 at 02:51

I am surprised people care that much about so-called rating abuse. Who cares if someone downvotes or upvotes albums? Oh wait way too many peopl do. To those that care that much I want to say... breathe in, breathe out, move on, get a life, etc. Btw I also want to say that to the so-called abusers.

As the staff of a metal webzine known for pursueing veracity of content doesn't it annoy you a bit that due to inflation the scores of the albums are actually innacurate?
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02.12.2017 - 16:33
VIG
Account deleted
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.12.2017 at 02:51

I am surprised people care that much about so-called rating abuse. Who cares if someone downvotes or upvotes albums? Oh wait way too many peopl do. To those that care that much I want to say... breathe in, breathe out, move on, get a life, etc. Btw I also want to say that to the so-called abusers.

I agree completely. It's not that big of a deal, and at the end of the day, it is kind of unstoppable.
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