MS rule no.1: never argue with RavenKing about power metal bands

But he's such a charming bloke

Written by RavenKing on 22.02.2011 at 14:33

Written by Black_Sheep on 21.02.2011 at 10:11

I wouldn't even compare these two bands. And no, i don't like Bal-Sagoth.

It was just something related to drums.
Personally, I prefer Bal-Sagoth by far to Wintersun. At least Bal-Sagoth is original and don't really sound like any other band. Wintersun is only generic Powermetal music with some harsh vocals and a few blastbeats thrown in. Nearly as overrated as current Iron Maiden.

Couldn't agree more with that.

Written by Guest on 23.02.2011 at 18:28

Written by RavenKing on 22.02.2011 at 14:33

Written by Black_Sheep on 21.02.2011 at 10:11

I wouldn't even compare these two bands. And no, i don't like Bal-Sagoth.

It was just something related to drums.
Personally, I prefer Bal-Sagoth by far to Wintersun. At least Bal-Sagoth is original and don't really sound like any other band. Wintersun is only generic Powermetal music with some harsh vocals and a few blastbeats thrown in. Nearly as overrated as current Iron Maiden.

Couldn't agree more with that.

It's nice to see that we agree on something, as we usually disagree.

I don't know why people need to fight over what genre to label a band as. I find wintersun to make great music regardless if it's Melo Death or Power metal.
Jari is a pretty great musician IMO. He's not Devin Townsend or anything but he's made his mark on my musical spectrum.

Written by RavenKing on 24.02.2011 at 01:00

Written by Guest on 23.02.2011 at 18:28

Written by RavenKing on 22.02.2011 at 14:33

Written by Black_Sheep on 21.02.2011 at 10:11

I wouldn't even compare these two bands. And no, i don't like Bal-Sagoth.

It was just something related to drums.
Personally, I prefer Bal-Sagoth by far to Wintersun. At least Bal-Sagoth is original and don't really sound like any other band. Wintersun is only generic Powermetal music with some harsh vocals and a few blastbeats thrown in. Nearly as overrated as current Iron Maiden.

Couldn't agree more with that.

It's nice to see that we agree on something, as we usually disagree.

There is a first for everything lol, well...not really.

Even I agree with RavenKing that Bal-Sagoth are better - and especially more original - than Wintersun

Written by Ellrohir on 25.02.2011 at 00:39

Even I agree with RavenKing that Bal-Sagoth are better - and especially more original - than Wintersun

Having more than just one excellent album does make it easier for a band to grow on you, even though Atlantis Ascendant was uninspired and kind of boring. The kind of songwriting, where you can almost hear the band members whispering: "We don't really want to be doing this anymore" on the background.

Maybe you guys should go to the Bal-Sagoth thread?

Written by Wyrd on 25.02.2011 at 01:47

Maybe you guys should go to the Bal-Sagoth thread?

Yes and no, this is really just an extended comparison, but it's true it shouldn't really be in here.

Wintersun still exists? wow!

Whens the album out?

There doing a few festivals, Metalcamp, Bloodstock, Graspop. Which makes me wonder, is it soon?

Written by Metal Machine on 01.05.2011 at 22:23

Whens the album out?

There doing a few festivals, Metalcamp, Bloodstock, Graspop. Which makes me wonder, is it soon?

Jari had a live chat at Metalcamp site some weeks ago and he said that even he don't know when the album will be finish. Since he have problem that there is no 64-bit plugins to Cubase 6. You can read some of the questions that were asked over here and the answers ofc http://www.wintermadness.net/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=21719&highlight=#21719

I call the necromancer to rez this thread.

Yeah, Wintersun did a few shows and they played a new song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQ31iAS1fA

The sound quality isn't at its best, but we can get an idea. This song is insanely good, but we can't clearly hear all the melodies that make us like Wintersun. Of course, Wintersun has always been more a studio band, so I just can't wait to hear the studio version. (Which is probably not mixed yet lol.)

That song is amazing! Better than the first album.

The new song is amazing. Just mindblowing.

Seems quite promising hehe =).

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdD6V0SUvI&feature=related

Here's a better version where the sound quality is much better.

Written by MeloDeathViking on 31.05.2011 at 21:51

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdD6V0SUvI&feature=related

Here's a better version where the sound quality is much better.

it notice more the melody in this version.

Here is a interview with Jari and Kai from Tuska Open Air

Great to hear that Jari got many idea's for future albums!

This version sounds even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6SYcOuRg4g&feature=related

Guess I won't get that melody out of my head for the next couple of days...

I just saw Wintersun at Bloodstock, and yeh, they did this new song. It was pretty great... really good actually.

Sounds less inspired than most of the stuff on the debut to me. Basically, substituting "trick" with "album" and "pony" with "band", Wintersun seem to be a one trick pony. It was a pretty good trick, but I'm not sure I'd care to see it again. I guess we'll live and hear.

New song is pretty good. The album is probably going to be satisfactory.

Written by Guest on 15.08.2011 at 03:19

Sounds less inspired than most of the stuff on the debut to me. Basically, substituting "trick" with "album" and "pony" with "band", Wintersun seem to be a one trick pony. It was a pretty good trick, but I'm not sure I'd care to see it again. I guess we'll live and hear.

I could say that about half the bands in your favorites list ... just sayin.

The song's good, but the album should be something very epic.

In my opinion Kai Hahto is one of the best drummers currently and inside of my favorites.

How effortlessly he keeps things going , and some jazz tricks , and he got no wrists in his arms

I listened to parts of the two new tracks but am going to wait for the album to drop to fully listen, Ive waited this long I can wait a few more months.. The new style reminds me of Whispered a bit..

Isn't it funny that a band with one album has a thread with like 700 posts and some bands who's been playing for decades with very solid discographies have less posts?