Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:44

Wow.... It seems that reviewer's view on music goues like this:
Scream Bloody Gore - Death Metal, All other music in the world - Thrash Metal.
WHAT THE FUCK? Did someone proofread those reviews at all...?

Written by Doc G. on 19.10.2007 at 07:18

Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:44

Wow.... It seems that reviewer's view on music goues like this:
Scream Bloody Gore - Death Metal, All other music in the world - Thrash Metal.
WHAT THE FUCK? Did someone proofread those reviews at all...?

Look at the date it was published, early reviews were pretty bad alot of the times, take a look at this dreadful Hatebreeder review if you want a further idea of what I mean (the one by Moontroll):
http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/album.php?album_id=480&band_id=72&bandname=Children+Of+Bodom

Written by Doc G. on 12.04.2007 at 06:04

Wow, by the way your review goes it seems the rating should be somewhere around a 7, which is what I wouldve rated it, this stays at the top of my list as the worlds most overrated band & album.

Written by vezzy on 05.10.2010 at 18:11

I share the same opinion with Doc. Definitely overrated. Everything up to Individual Thought Patterns is what I mostly listen to from Death.

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 18:38
Oh well you may not like the album, but you cannot deny that the sound is great, the riffs killers and overall this is a
masterpiece of the metal scene -_- wheter you like it or not, facts are there

Written by vezzy on 05.10.2010 at 18:54

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 18:38
Oh well you may not like the album, but you cannot deny that the sound is great, the riffs killers and overall this is a
masterpiece of the metal scene -_- wheter you like it or not, facts are there

I don't see any facts. Did you misplace them?

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:15

My friend... You're disputing musical preferences
You're telling me they're overrated explain to me why ?
Because sincerely I don't see anything in their work making them Overrated
The band was clearly skillful and the quality of their music is great on all the albums
You can't just call a band overrated because YOU do not like the style

Especially when talking about symbolic, because theres great riffs going on
Fast paced and clear... with some brilliant solos executed by Chuck
The vocals might not be as incredible (compared to The Sound of Perseverance) for example
But its still agressive and perfectly in tone with the whole album.
Also, the intro on Empty Words is delightful, you feel that somethings coming in your face up until the bash through at 00:39
They create an atmosphere on almost every track. Oh yeah not mentioning the quality of the track Without Judgement who seems to be forgotten by people most of th time, great Drumming going on and the feeling you get when the riff at 1:46 Starts running is mighty.
And how can you not like a song like Crystal Mountain ? The bass and drum works while the guitar gets softer Just before the chorus is
well thought. Overall incredibly strong album

YOU may not like the style, YOU may think its overrated, YOU may not enjoy the album as much as I do
but saying that they're actually overrated without bringin me any example or anything credible to support that
is just trash talk. They were a talented band with great musical Ideas and good technique... nothing less.

Written by vezzy on 05.10.2010 at 19:23

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:15

My friend... You're disputing musical preferences
You're telling me they're overrated explain to me why ?
Because sincerely I don't see anything in their work making them Overrated
The band was clearly skillful and the quality of their music is great on all the albums
You can't just call a band overrated because YOU do not like the style

Especially when talking about symbolic, because theres great riffs going on
Fast paced and clear... with some brilliant solos executed by Chuck
The vocals might not be as incredible (compared to The Sound of Perseverance) for example
But its still agressive and perfectly in tone with the whole album.
Also, the intro on Empty Words is delightful, you feel that somethings coming in your face up until the bash through at 00:39
They create an atmosphere on almost every track. Oh yeah not mentioning the quality of the track Without Judgement who seems to be forgotten by people most of th time, great Drumming going on and the feeling you get when the riff at 1:46 Starts running is mighty.
And how can you not like a song like Crystal Mountain ? The bass and drum works while the guitar gets softer Just before the chorus is
well thought. Overall incredibly strong album

YOU may not like the style, YOU may think its overrated, YOU may not enjoy the album as much as I do
but saying that they're actually overrated without bringin me any example or anything credible to support that
is just trash talk. They were a talented band with great musical Ideas and good technique... nothing less.

OH YUCK, NOT CRYSTAL MOUNTAIN.

I never understood the hype about that song, always seemed ordinary to me. Okay sure, you have that solo and those harmonies, but they never seemed really amazing to me.

Many of the riffs on Symbolic seem kind of basic to me and the tone flat, there is definitely a touch of complexity and skill which comes up, but overall, it isn't that great. Not as good as the rawness of Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy or the well-executed combination of melody and aggression - Individual Thought Patterns.

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:31
I hope you do realize that theres not only the work of the guitar in an album... Sorry to say it again, but the bass and drum works are great
If you'd just listen to the album properly and remove from your mind that (Oh its so overrated and not that fucking crazy complicated that my ears are still intact after listening to it) Might help you understand their efforts. Basic riffs doesnt mean out of quality. It might not be as complicated compared to bands like lets say Cryptopsy, Necrophagist or other technical prodigy but the arrangements with the other instruments makes it more than enjoyable ... I still don't get your point, not liking a song because it is softer and totally putting aside the bass and drum collaboration ?! Seems to me you're simply close minded when talking about Death's later albums

EDIT: (The Tone Flat) Please state an example cause from what I've heard after listening to the album over 100 times it is far from flat Pretty imaginative actually and colorful (Even fitting some awesome light accoustic sound at the end of Crystal Mountain)

Written by vezzy on 05.10.2010 at 19:53

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:31
I hope you do realize that theres not only the work of the guitar in an album... Sorry to say it again, but the bass and drum works are great
If you'd just listen to the album properly and remove from your mind that (Oh its so overrated and not that fucking crazy complicated that my ears are still intact after listening to it) Might help you understand their efforts. Basic riffs doesnt mean out of quality. It might not be as complicated compared to bands like lets say Cryptopsy, Necrophagist or other technical prodigy but the arrangements with the other instruments makes it more than enjoyable ... I still don't get your point, not liking a song because it is softer and totally putting aside the bass and drum collaboration ?! Seems to me you're simply close minded when talking about Death's later albums

EDIT: (The Tone Flat) Please state an example cause from what I've heard after listening to the album over 100 times it is far from flat Pretty imaginative actually and colorful (Even fitting some awesome light accoustic sound at the end of Crystal Mountain)

Bass is very good indeed and the drumming as well, yes. But just that can't save the album. I don't listen to Necrophagist a lot, but I like Cryptopsy due to both the brutality and technicality. Symbolic feels fairly ordinary to me, but with good harmonies and solos that pop out at times. Clear mind or not, I have yet to truly like this album.

I like the rawness and progressions of Human better, but that's only me.

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:57
You see I prefer that kind of answer... way more objective and you're actually telling me that its a personal matter
I understand that some people might not like this album since we can't love everything made in the metal world
But personally I don't see the PoP in symbolic... being a fan of technical metal and prog I understood a long time ago
that None of these bands can be *POP*. They're softer than on Human and Individual Thought Patterns I give you that
but not pop no...

EDIT: Besides Im a big fan of Human myself great album.

Written by vezzy on 05.10.2010 at 20:04

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:57
You see I prefer that kind of answer... way more objective and you're actually telling me that its a personal matter
I understand that some people might not like this album since we can't love everything made in the metal world
But personally I don't see the PoP in symbolic... being a fan of technical metal and prog I understood a long time ago
that None of these bands can be *POP*. They're softer than on Human and Individual Thought Patterns I give you that
but not pop no...

EDIT: Besides Im a big fan of Human myself great album.

When did I imply that it's pop?

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 18:03

Written by Doc G. on 12.04.2007 at 06:04

Wow, by the way your review goes it seems the rating should be somewhere around a 7, which is what I wouldve rated it, this stays at the top of my list as the worlds most overrated band & album.

Wow overrated man... do you hear yourself, this work of art is incredibly good
And this album is far from being overrated
You're probably one of those who believe that people prefer death now because chuck is dead and that is totally stupid

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:31

Seems to me you're simply close minded when talking about Death's later albums

Written by Doc G. on 05.10.2010 at 23:21

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 18:03

Written by Doc G. on 12.04.2007 at 06:04

Wow, by the way your review goes it seems the rating should be somewhere around a 7, which is what I wouldve rated it, this stays at the top of my list as the worlds most overrated band & album.

Wow overrated man... do you hear yourself, this work of art is incredibly good
And this album is far from being overrated
You're probably one of those who believe that people prefer death now because chuck is dead and that is totally stupid

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about Chuck Schuldiner. I just don't think the album is that good, simple as that. You seem to be over thinking things here.

Written by Guib on 05.10.2010 at 19:31

Seems to me you're simply close minded when talking about Death's later albums

I smell a fanboy. Argument now rendered absolutely pointless.

Written by Guib on 06.10.2010 at 22:06

If you think Im that pointless just read the arguments I gave to Vezzy Im not gonna repeat myself again -_-
Besides I'm obviously a fan, else we wouldn't be arguing would we ?

Written by Doc G. on 06.10.2010 at 23:21

Written by Guib on 06.10.2010 at 22:06

If you think Im that pointless just read the arguments I gave to Vezzy Im not gonna repeat myself again -_-
Besides I'm obviously a fan, else we wouldn't be arguing would we ?

I said fanboy. It's someone who believes their favourite band(s) can do no wrong. You calling Vezzy closed minded because he didn't like a certain album. It's a pretty irrational mindset and there's really no point in arguing against it.