Katatonia



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Posted by , 17.05.2006 - 03:39
Well, quite simple really. General discussion relating to Swedish band Katatonia.

And seen as I'm jumping on the band wagon of starting new band-related threads before anyone else, I may aswell have my two cents regarding this one.

Their later albums are better. Both "Viva Emptiness" and "The Great Cold Distance" have far surpassed not only the bands own early material, but that of most other bands making music today.

Here is a link to their official website, where you can find out all sorts of juicy information: http://www.katatonia.com/

Cheers.
10.01.2012 - 21:52
Uldreth
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 21:36


The entire album is pretty shitty to be honest... I gave it a 6 at first but I'm thinking a 4 or 5 is more appropriate.

It feels so strange to realize this is the same band that released that which I consider to be one of the best extreme doom albums ever (Dance of December Souls).

I kind of liked the intro to that song but then it just went downhill.
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10.01.2012 - 21:58
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Uldreth on 10.01.2012 at 21:52
It feels so strange to realize this is the same band that released that which I consider to be one of the best extreme doom albums ever (Dance of December Souls).

Replace DoDS with BMD and I know exactly how you feel.

Their alternative stuff never worked for me, whereas I actually prefer Anathema's post-doom era.
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10.01.2012 - 22:10
Uldreth
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 21:58

Replace DoDS with BMD and I know exactly how you feel.

Their alternative stuff never worked for me, whereas I actually prefer Anathema's post-doom era.

BMD is a close second for me. Day is awesome and Rainroom is my all-time favourite Katatonia song (and one of the most beautiful pieces of contemporary music I've heard, on level with WoD's Somehow, Alcest's Elevation and Slowdive's Spanish Air) but overall I still consider DoDS to be better. It is also a bit more unique, havent heard many albums that sound similiar to it.

I don't know Anathema at all, shame on me, but I plan on checking them out when I am back into doom (I have a way of "rotating" my favourite genres, it is a sort of natural process for me and at the moment I am not listening to much doom).
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10.01.2012 - 22:15
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
Written by Uldreth on 10.01.2012 at 22:10
I don't know Anathema at all, shame on me, but I plan on checking them out when I am back into doom (I have a way of "rotating" my favourite genres, it is a sort of natural process for me and at the moment I am not listening to much doom).

My honest advice would be to ignore most of their work in the 2000s and work backwards from 1999.

If you're feeling more adventurous, their first two 2000s releases are somewhat enjoyable, but inconsistent.
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10.01.2012 - 22:24
Slayer666
What is wrong with you peeps, NItND is an excellent album. You'd have to dig back all the way to Discouraged Ones to find a better Katatonia release.
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10.01.2012 - 22:54
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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11.01.2012 - 02:48
InnerSelf
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I agree. NitND is not bad at all, it just has some boring moments but some of the songs are great including the "gay" track above
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11.01.2012 - 08:36
Nefarious
Doom Knight
I was quite disappointed with NitND at first but it really grew on me over time, but it seems i'm one of the few who loves both old Katatonia and new Katatonia.
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11.01.2012 - 11:28
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Slayer666 on 10.01.2012 at 22:24

What is wrong with you peeps, NItND is an excellent album. You'd have to dig back all the way to Discouraged Ones to find a better Katatonia release.


everything before NiTND is better than this cure for insomnia.
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11.01.2012 - 14:20
InnerSelf
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So now it's : Alcest, Lifelover, and NitND
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11.01.2012 - 14:23
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by InnerSelf on 11.01.2012 at 14:20

So now it's : Alcest, Lifelover, and NitND


It used to be Alcest, Lifelover, The Great Distance, but that last one has changed into NitND even though TGD isn't much better
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11.01.2012 - 14:49
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2012 at 14:23

Written by InnerSelf on 11.01.2012 at 14:20

So now it's : Alcest, Lifelover, and NitND


It used to be Alcest, Lifelover, The Great Distance, but that last one has changed into NitND even though TGD isn't much better


Don't forget later Anathema.
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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11.01.2012 - 14:52
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.01.2012 at 14:49

Don't forget later Anathema.


I could add a lot more
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11.01.2012 - 16:01
Slayer666
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2012 at 11:28

everything before NiTND is better than this cure for insomnia.


I say the same for your favorite non-doom era Katatonia album, i.e. Viva Emptiness.
Now that we've established our tastes differ, there is only one thing we can do about it: fight to death.
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11.01.2012 - 16:18
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Slayer666 on 11.01.2012 at 16:01

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2012 at 11:28

everything before NiTND is better than this cure for insomnia.


I say the same for your favorite non-doom era Katatonia album, i.e. Viva Emptiness.
Now that we've established our tastes differ, there is only one thing we can do about it: fight to death.


You have certainly changed your opinion on Katatonia since 10.11.2009
Remember you [posted this in the comments on the review of The Great Cold Distance?

Written by Slayer666 on 10.11.2009 at 23:56

Yeap, exactly. Katatonia died for me after "Tonight's Decision". Their early stuff beats the shit out of 95% of the Doom Metal bands, but this new emo/goth (not litteraly) sound is just.... Shallow and pointless.
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11.01.2012 - 16:33
Slayer666
Haha, yeah, I changed my opinion on a lot of things since then, Katatonia included.
Well, the part about their early stuff beating the shit out of 95% doom still stands, but the later Katatonia grew on me a lot since then. Minus Viva, that is. And I'm still not too thrilled about The Great Cold Distance as a whole, but it does have some outstanding tracks ("Deliberation" immediately comes to mind).
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11.01.2012 - 16:38
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Slayer666 on 11.01.2012 at 16:33

And I'm still not too thrilled about The Great Cold Distance as a whole,



Which I find weird cause NitND is soooo much like that one that they could have been conceived at the same recording session.
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Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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11.01.2012 - 16:40
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2012 at 16:38

Written by Slayer666 on 11.01.2012 at 16:33

And I'm still not too thrilled about The Great Cold Distance as a whole,



Which I find weird cause NitND is soooo much like that one that they could have been conceived at the same recording session.


Like "The Great Cold Distance" light version.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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11.01.2012 - 16:42
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.01.2012 at 16:40

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 11.01.2012 at 16:38

Written by Slayer666 on 11.01.2012 at 16:33

And I'm still not too thrilled about The Great Cold Distance as a whole,



Which I find weird cause NitND is soooo much like that one that they could have been conceived at the same recording session.


Like "The Great Cold Distance" light version.


Something like that, even though TGCD was already extremely light
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.)
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11.01.2012 - 20:17
InnerSelf
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Yeah at certain moments it feels a lot like TGCD but TGCD although being light still has imo some of the heavy qualities found in Viva Emptiness
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13.01.2012 - 00:47
Slayer666
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I'll politely disagree with the above statements and get back to listening "Liberation" and "Nephilim" from NiTND.
Those two grew on me more than ever.
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13.01.2012 - 21:22
InnerSelf
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I'm not saying it's bad, it's just very similar to TGCD and is definitely lighter
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13.01.2012 - 21:51
Troy Killjoy
perfunctionist
I'm saying it's bad.
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13.01.2012 - 21:53
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Troy Killjoy on 13.01.2012 at 21:51

I'm saying it's bad.


i am not saying it is bad as such but it is certainly Katatonia's worst.
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05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996

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13.01.2012 - 21:54
Slayer666
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Looks like that's the general opinion of folks on MS, at least the more prominent part of the population.
As far as I know, it's the opposite for the majority of teh Interwebz.
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14.01.2012 - 00:51
InnerSelf
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Second worst after Tonight's Decision imo (but still I'd rate it 7.7 or so)

Written by Troy Killjoy on 13.01.2012 at 21:51

I'm saying it's bad.


You're just pissed at your girlfriend
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28.01.2012 - 01:53
ravendeath
Written by InnerSelf on 11.01.2012 at 02:48

I agree. NitND is not bad at all, it just has some boring moments but some of the songs are great including the "gay" track above

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04.05.2012 - 00:01
wildchild
Warchild
Did someone saw (heard) this http://soundcloud.com/shining-official/for-my-demons-katatonia-cover?utm_campaign=share :~

nice cover.
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01.10.2012 - 11:54
Dentura
Shadow King
Their new album Dead End Kings is just awesome. I also love the two bonus tracks "Second" and "The Act of Darkening".
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29.11.2016 - 01:07
Kennoth
Hey guys. I've been trying to find a decent hoodie or a long sleeve shirt online, but I failed short. The selection on their "official" Omerch site is piss poor, and elsewhere on the Internet is even worse. I'm mostly interested in the merch from their earlier stuff, especially Discouraged Ones which is my favorite album, but other will do as well as long as it's cool. So if you have a good place to order it from, let me know?
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