Jonas seems to do the vocals on old songs again live, and it was pretty awesome to hear him do Murder in Helsinki. Sounded even better than Åkerfeldt, IMO.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.11.2009 at 17:40

Written by Slayer666 on 26.11.2009 at 12:31

Can you explain to me what shoegaze is? I understand the term loosely, but if you could elaborate a bit, that would be great.
Btw, I must have missed your birthday, so allow me to say "HAPPY B-DAY!!!" a few days late.

Shoegaze has always been for me one of the genres that you can easily recognize in the sound of the band, but it's such a pain in the ass to explain it with words since it feels weird [just like explaining to someone what's drone]...

So yeah, acording to my ears [since I believe someone else could give you a totally different answer (and probably better)] Shoegaze feels like listening to pop with lots of distorsion, yeah... that's not really specific but I always felt that way.
There's a lot of guitarr effects, droning riffs and "the wall of sound" from the noisy guitars, the vocals are usually treated as another instrument since they are mostly underneath the riffs, sometimes you can't make out what the vocalist is saying... The always sounded "sweet" or very emotive to me. Then again in DO you can easily hear the vocals but the shoegaze influence it's more in the guitars .P
A fair amount of shoegaze bands use drum machines as far as I know, but there are also many that use live drums
Shoegaze you can clearly hear in the metal scene in DO, Alcest, Amesoeurs, Have a Nice Life, Jesu [as far as I know] and others...

I hope that can help you a little bit, sorry if I can't make a better explanation, and thanks for the greetings

OK, thanks. I kinda understant it more now. Kinda. Ever heard of shoegaze Black Metal? There is a one-man band called Heretoir that seems to be able to mix it quite good. My fav song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvlD_cw6Lvs&feature=PlayList&p=52DA115D7F4D74AF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=22
EDIT: The best part is from 1:00 and onward.

Wow, that's pretty good. There's certainly some shoegaze elements in there.

This is what dream pop, or shoegaze, really is in the original meaning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LIO138Z-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8

Written by Slayer666 on 27.11.2009 at 13:09

Ever heard of shoegaze Black Metal?

Some bands that I put like Alcest, Amesoeurs and Have A Nice Life make some Metalgaze with some black around it so yeah... I know the scene a little bit... Although I'm aware that the Black metal influeces aren't that big anyway.

That was a wonderful song btw and yes... the shoegaze influeces are clear. Very good.. .I shall check it out.

And just for the sake of being on topic:
I just recieved my copy of Dance Of December Song with the ep Jhva Elohim Meth as bonus tracks...
Fucking sweet... I'm gonna listen to it this weekend

"Day And Then The Shade's" music video is a very bad copy of "Weak And Powerless's" music video by "A Perfect Circle". the atmosphere of clip reminds me bad black metal clips.

Written by IronAngel on 26.11.2009 at 22:52

Jonas seems to do the vocals on old songs again live, and it was pretty awesome to hear him do Murder in Helsinki. Sounded even better than Åkerfeldt, IMO.

Yep, same over here. Seen them twice this year and both times he has handled the vocals - and in such an amazing fashion as well.

Written by Guest on 27.12.2009 at 10:14

"Day And Then The Shade's" music video is a very bad copy of "Weak And Powerless's" music video by "A Perfect Circle". the atmosphere of clip reminds me bad black metal clips.

I think that video has got to be one of the crappiest ever.... Possibly not counting some no budget BM videos....

Written by Slayer666 on 28.12.2009 at 19:32

Written by Guest on 27.12.2009 at 10:14

"Day And Then The Shade's" music video is a very bad copy of "Weak And Powerless's" music video by "A Perfect Circle". the atmosphere of clip reminds me bad black metal clips.

I think that video has got to be one of the crappiest ever.... Possibly not counting some no budget BM videos....

totally agree, but album is a normal good album.

The new album is their masterpiece.

Written by YIN on 05.01.2010 at 13:10

The new album is their masterpiece.

just a medicore album IMO, really cant think about a Masterpiece.

I have only two Katatonia cds - Brave Murder Day and their latest - that's alot of albums in between! Can someone recommend the next one or two albums/eps I need to get?

Written by tea[m]ster on 19.01.2010 at 11:54

I have only two Katatonia cds - Brave Murder Day and their latest - that's alot of albums in between! Can someone recommend the next one or two albums/eps I need to get?

To be honest there isn't one in particular in my opinion. Probably everyone has his or her favorite one ofcourse (mine would be 'The Great Cold Distance' and 'Last Fair Deal Gone Down)', but my advice would just to start at the beginning, and go through their entire discography. Just to be sure you won't miss out on any goodies they got in there. It's worth it. Don't rush it though, let the albums soak in one by one.

Can someone tell me why the hell Katatonia is in the Gothic Metal section of the MS awards 2009?

Another whining bitch it seems.
Where else would you put them? They sure as hell aren't doom. AT least there isa hint of gothic in their music.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2010 at 00:47

Another whining bitch it seems.
Where else would you put them? They sure as hell aren't doom. AT least there isa hint of gothic in their music.

Seriously Marcel "Another whining bitch it seems"? what the fuck are you trying to pull here? if there is one whinny big bitch it's you, hell one needs to look only at your sig. Not to mention the bitch fest you threw in the shoutbox a while ago just because a guy voted Candlemass and didn't listen to the other candidates.

Well since you asked, I'll answer Alternative Metal. Since they created their own branch of Depressive rock. only slightly more heavier.

Brave Murder Day is almost an absolute perfect album in my opinion. It's not long, but it's powerful, growl vocals are amazing, lyrics equally aren't frequent but have deep meaning (to me at least) and having a soft vocals song with catchy mesmerising sounds in the middle of the album nicely seperates the other tracks.

Saying that, I also love most of their other albums, with Jonas Renkse's vocals, even though you can't really compare with the older albums due to them being different styles, there's some amazing tracks split amongst all the other albums.

I'm going to see them in London on the 11th along with Swallow The Sun... can't wait!

Cant get enough of Katatonia

Written by VPeter on 04.02.2010 at 01:50

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2010 at 00:47

Another whining bitch it seems.
Where else would you put them? They sure as hell aren't doom. AT least there isa hint of gothic in their music.

Seriously Marcel "Another whining bitch it seems"? what the fuck are you trying to pull here? if there is one whinny big bitch it's you, hell one needs to look only at your sig. Not to mention the bitch fest you threw in the shoutbox a while ago just because a guy voted Candlemass and didn't listen to the other candidates.

Well since you asked, I'll answer Alternative Metal. Since they created their own branch of Depressive rock. only slightly more heavier.

YOURE MY HERO

I come from Australia and I have to say that the music that those in Europe have access to or are even aware of is amazing. I'm yet to find somebody here who has so much as HEARD of Katatonia. I LOVE THIS BAND! KATATONIA seem to come out with one great song after another - some of them are truly amazing. I would love to see this band live!!

PERSONAL FAVOURITES:

*ASHEN (heavenly to listen to through good speakers!!)

*JULY

*COLD WAYS

*SWEET NURSE

*THE FUTURE OF SPEECH

...and there are many more. Good to read other people's comments here; good to know that others also acknowledge and appreciate awesome music. I checked out Jonas in a youtube interview and he (and his fellow band members) seem like genuine nice guys. A pity more locals don't know about this fabulous band,

Katherine.

Written by Occultista on 07.03.2010 at 00:14

Brave Murder Day is almost an absolute perfect album in my opinion. It's not long, but it's powerful, growl vocals are amazing, lyrics equally aren't frequent but have deep meaning (to me at least) and having a soft vocals song with catchy mesmerising sounds in the middle of the album nicely seperates the other tracks.

Saying that, I also love most of their other albums, with Jonas Renkse's vocals, even though you can't really compare with the older albums due to them being different styles, there's some amazing tracks split amongst all the other albums.

I'm going to see them in London on the 11th along with Swallow The Sun... can't wait!

yes sure this is their best album
the atmosphere,vocal performance by mikael from opeth,lyrical themes are perfect
i choose this album this my top death/doom album of all time

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.02.2010 at 00:47

Another whining bitch it seems.
Where else would you put them? They sure as hell aren't doom. AT least there isa hint of gothic in their music.

Written by Occultista on 07.03.2010 at 00:14

Brave Murder Day is almost an absolute perfect album in my opinion. It's not long, but it's powerful, growl vocals are amazing, lyrics equally aren't frequent but have deep meaning (to me at least) and having a soft vocals song with catchy mesmerising sounds in the middle of the album nicely seperates the other tracks.

Saying that, I also love most of their other albums, with Jonas Renkse's vocals, even though you can't really compare with the older albums due to them being different styles, there's some amazing tracks split amongst all the other albums.

I'm going to see them in London on the 11th along with Swallow The Sun... can't wait!

Isn't it great when you think you've found an album as close to perfectionism as possible! Me, I play Katatonia a great deal, especially while I'm driving. I think it would be wonderful to see Katatonia live! Their melodies are so often just so good; and I bet it would be wonderful to see them live. One thing I do so like about Jonas is that he isn't into glitz and glamour, frilly trimmings, that kind of thing. He comes across as a fairly ordinary man with no airs or graces who just happens to make music of a high quality.:) And that's nice.

Saw them live at Tuska (for the fourth time). Mostly, it was just the same-old, boring songs from the latest two albums. Then, predictably, Ghost Of The Sun and Right Into The Bliss which nonetheless got me a little excited. And then they played I Break, hell yes! Little did I expect what came next: SWEET NURSE, HOLY SHIT! One of my favorite Katatonia songs ever, definetely in the top 5, and I'd never heard it live. I was extatic, and ready to call it a day and head off to wait for Church Of Misery. But then they did Nephilim, which sounded really good.

So all in all, the show was a pleasant surprise. Katatonia tend to have boring sets and bad live performances, so I wasn't expecting much. But Sweet Nurse, just... yes. Made my day.

So this girl I'm really into tells me Katatonia's Night Is the New Day reminds her of me. Does this mean I'm being friendzoned? Or does she secretly think I'm gay even though I've blatantly expressed otherwise.

For the record, this is the song that reminds her of me the most. :/

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 10:52

So this girl I'm really into tells me Katatonia's Night Is the New Day reminds her of me. Does this mean I'm being friendzoned? Or does she secretly think I'm gay even though I've blatantly expressed otherwise.

It means she wants to do things with you at night, but she fears you may be impotent (idle blood = blood not reaching the correct area).

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 10:52

So this girl I'm really into tells me Katatonia's Night Is the New Day reminds her of me.

That means she thinks you're immensely boring, one dimensional, and sleep inducing and the perfect cure for insomnia

So either I have ED or I'm a cure for a sleeping disorder.

Close enough.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 21:17

So either I have ED or I'm a cure for a sleeping disorder.
Close enough.

I dunno what to tell you dude, that song was hella gay... Damn, I've never listened to that album and this song really doesn't make me feel interested in checking more songs.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 10.01.2012 at 21:35
I dunno what to tell you dude, that song was hella gay... Damn, I've never listened to that album and this song really doesn't make me feel interested in checking more songs.

The entire album is pretty shitty to be honest... I gave it a 6 at first but I'm thinking a 4 or 5 is more appropriate.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.01.2012 at 21:36


The entire album is pretty shitty to be honest... I gave it a 6 at first but I'm thinking a 4 or 5 is more appropriate.

It feels so strange to realize this is the same band that released that which I consider to be one of the best extreme doom albums ever (Dance of December Souls).

I kind of liked the intro to that song but then it just went downhill.