14:09 - Zaphod Ok, bad example, but you get the point. Metalcore has metal in it, so it's metal for me.
14:07 - Zaphod Yeah and Ensiferum is metal mixed with Finnish folk music, both genres have metal in them.
14:00 - Hex_Omega Well Metalcore is Metal mixed with Hardcore. It is something different, theoretically.
13:58 - Hex_Omega Nu Metal bands can be controversial for some metalheads and thats why I am not surprised that they don't have Slipknot on their site. However their music is metal.
13:56 - Zaphod Yeah, that's what I meant with 'true metal' (not that I agree with them, for the record) It confuses me how some people don't consider metalcore metal. Sure, you might not like it, but that doesn't mean it's not metal.