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Really good review, and I totally agree.
First time I listened to this album, i was disappointed, to say the least. A few years later, I listened it again. And again...
And now, I think it's one of the best PL albums, without doubt. |
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Great review.
I'm one of those who LOVE this album. |
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| I as well Love this album.... |
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| Indeed it's a great album. I can't say it's in my favourites but it does have some great songs. It's highly experimental but I love its atmosphere. |
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| I agree with iaberis, this album was a great experiment paradise lost did, and it certainly worked! |
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| horrible album.. it was a experiment, but a very bad one, if play only eletronic music is metal, then i dont know what to think... almost pop |
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Written by Uirapuru on 05.06.2008 at 08:47
if play only eletronic music is metal, then i dont know what to think... almost pop
Unnecesary coment IMO... Since it's stupid to care about what genre some music is [well... the "tr00 and br00tal" ones always care about it]
If you don't like this music, it's fine... But don't say it's awful just because it's not metal, doing that is childish.
And as for the album... I like it a lot because it's different and the atmosphere is beautiful. I will buy it, it's very cheap on the internet, like 5 euro. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 12.06.2008 at 21:03
Written by Uirapuru on 05.06.2008 at 08:47
if play only eletronic music is metal, then i dont know what to think... almost pop
Unnecesary coment IMO... Since it's stupid to care about what genre some music is [well... the "tr00 and br00tal" ones always care about it]
If you don't like this music, it's fine... But don't say it's awful just because it's not metal, doing that is childish.
And as for the album... I like it a lot because it's different and the atmosphere is beautiful. I will buy it, it's very cheap on the internet, like 5 euro.
Well.. i like lots of styles besides metal... but Paradise Lost IS metal... unfortunally this album isnt.. thats why i found it horrible. |
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Written by Uirapuru on 12.06.2008 at 23:16
Well.. i like lots of styles besides metal... but Paradise Lost IS metal... unfortunally this album isnt.. thats why i found it horrible.
Wooow... So if one of your favorite bands make and album that isn't metal at all, but it's still music that suits you, would you hate it?
Because your post sounded like that... xD I know that it's a matter of tastes. No-one of us is right or wrong, but complain that something is horrible just because the genre changed is a weird explanation IMO. |
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Duy Hung - 13.06.2008 at 13:48
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| Don't really like this album but Year Of Summer is among my favourites |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 13.06.2008 at 13:18
Written by Uirapuru on 12.06.2008 at 23:16
Well.. i like lots of styles besides metal... but Paradise Lost IS metal... unfortunally this album isnt.. thats why i found it horrible.
Wooow... So if one of your favorite bands make and album that isn't metal at all, but it's still music that suits you, would you hate it?
Because your post sounded like that... xD I know that it's a matter of tastes. No-one of us is right or wrong, but complain that something is horrible just because the genre changed is a weird explanation IMO.
Well... i've never liked this electro-gothic style.. and PL started in this style from this particular album (One Second had it too, but much less)... in the following ones this electro elements remain, but at least some heavy riffs are back and the drums can be heard again (not just the eletric beat).
So thats why i like almost nothing about this album... the song ''Host'' is the best one, good atmosphere and the lyrics are beautiful etc. But the others are awful: ''So Much Is Lost'' looks like those poppy ending themes from Space Jam xD... ''Made the same'' and ''Deep'' incredibly gets me to remind of Korn o.O' ... the others are sleepy atmosphere with some lost chorus.
Anyway... didnt like this album at all. And yes.. this album is horrible TO ME exactly because the genre changed, simply because i dont like this particular genre.
Of course, you must like this kind of sound, and i know my first post wasnt thaaat explanatory xD... i just put that i hated without explain..my bad..  |
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| A horrible, horrible album. I fully agree with Angatupry on this one. This is like a second rate Depeche Mode and then to think I already hated the true original Depeche Mode. Nothing to do with metal or ven rock imo this album just electronic top 40 pop music. A shame of the talent Paradise Lost once possessed. |
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Written by Uirapuru on 13.06.2008 at 17:16
Well... i've never liked this electro-gothic style.. and PL started in this style from this particular album (One Second had it too, but much less)... in the following ones this electro elements remain, but at least some heavy riffs are back and the drums can be heard again (not just the eletric beat).
So thats why i like almost nothing about this album... the song ''Host'' is the best one, good atmosphere and the lyrics are beautiful etc. But the others are awful: ''So Much Is Lost'' looks like those poppy ending themes from Space Jam xD... ''Made the same'' and ''Deep'' incredibly gets me to remind of Korn o.O' ... the others are sleepy atmosphere with some lost chorus.
Anyway... didnt like this album at all. And yes.. this album is horrible TO ME exactly because the genre changed, simply because i dont like this particular genre.
Of course, you must like this kind of sound, and i know my first post wasnt thaaat explanatory xD... i just put that i hated without explain..my bad..
NOW we're talkning ^^
I fully disagree with you and Marcel, but hey... I'm the one with weird taste... I have favorite bands from every genre in metal [well.. except Metalcore...]
I just wanted that you gave some explanation because I don't like people that just says "yes" or "no" without saying why.
Well, my work here is done 
Probably in the middle of the next week, 5 cds will arrive my house. Host is one of them jejejeje.
Mmmm, even if this album remains a lot of DP's music.. I hate DP... Now that's boring shit. |
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 Pétur - 13.06.2008 at 19:00
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I like this album actually, I don't care if it is not metal.
it sounds a bit like Depeche Mode but it is still Paradise Lost.
I also like Depeche mode btw. |
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Yep... This shit finally arrived my house... 
And I'm gonna tell you guys, that i Don't give a fuck for the genre because this cd Rocks!!!
I agree with Dez' Review... It seems that a lot of people love to hate this album... I like it a lot.
The orchestrations are just fucking brilliant. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 19.06.2008 at 17:22
Yep... This shit finally arrived my house...
And I'm gonna tell you guys, that i Don't give a fuck for the genre because this cd Rocks!!!
I agree with Dez' Review... It seems that a lot of people love to hate this album... I like it a lot.
The orchestrations are just fucking brilliant.
I know how u feel man...
The same happen to me in some cases.... i really love the Finntroll's ''Visor om slutet'' and the Borknagar's ''Origin''... that are albuns different from the usual of the bands, with lots of acoustic parts and folk/cultured oriented blablabla... but these albuns are largely criticized. And i still like.
So you're absolutly right.. dont give a fuck  |
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Written by Uirapuru on 20.06.2008 at 13:31
I know how u feel man...
The same happen to me in some cases.... i really love the Finntroll's ''Visor om slutet'' and the Borknagar's ''Origin''... that are albuns different from the usual of the bands, with lots of acoustic parts and folk/cultured oriented blablabla... but these albuns are largely criticized. And i still like.
So you're absolutly right.. dont give a fuck
Finntroll's "Visor Om Slutet" is an underrated album IMO... Fucking awesome when your in a swamp with some scout-friends... |
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THE_BLACK_GOD - 23.12.2009 at 02:37
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Written by Uirapuru on 05.06.2008 at 08:47
horrible album.. it was a experiment, but a very bad one, if play only eletronic music is metal, then i dont know what to think... almost pop
absolutely bad album, totally agree with you. |
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THE_BLACK_GOD - 23.12.2009 at 02:41
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Just couldnt read this review to the end, 8? FX? are we talkin about Creative's soundcards?
just heard it for the very first time right now, and didnt find even one song to be loved. |
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| Totaly disappointing.I dont care if the music is good or not.its not same thing I've always expected from Paradise Lost. |
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Paradise Lost have always challenged themselves as musicians, and have often released albums that their fans weren't quite expecting. The change from their first two albums, Lost Paradise to Gothic, was in itself quite a leap.
Host is totally different and non-Metal, but it's still a great album IMO with some fantastic songs. Perhaps it's easier to appreciate in retrospect, as a one-off. |
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I can't imagine what possessed PL to write this album... There are a couple of good tracks (Host and Ordinary Days come to mind), but the rest I just find... empty, pointless somehow. It could be that I'm so used to guitar distortion that I find everything without it bland, but it probably has more to do with poor songwriting. A 6 from me, tops.
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..."Host", their most complex album when it comes to sound matters and ideas...
Totally invalid, IMO. How can this be more complex than "Gothic"? |
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Written by Slayer666 on 20.10.2010 at 18:54
Totally invalid, IMO. How can this be more complex than "Gothic"?
this is lol. |
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Written by DerRozzengarten on 20.10.2010 at 21:43
Written by Slayer666 on 20.10.2010 at 18:54
Totally invalid, IMO. How can this be more complex than "Gothic"?
this is lol.
If you say so... I'm not really musically educated enough to speak of such things, I just go by the ear. |
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Written by Slayer666 on 21.10.2010 at 14:23
Written by DerRozzengarten on 20.10.2010 at 21:43
Written by Slayer666 on 20.10.2010 at 18:54
Totally invalid, IMO. How can this be more complex than "Gothic"?
this is lol.
If you say so... I'm not really musically educated enough to speak of such things, I just go by the ear.
By more complexity i meant that it has a lot more things in there to blend, electronics for example, it requires more time to fix the sound you want, whereas in gothic they went in the studio, they had the main idea, they played, they recorded, the album was ready  |
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And still Gothic is infinitely superior to this piece of horrendous 80s pop drivel 
britney spears and lady gaga take even longer time to fix the sound they want and still it's not complex so that is not a criterium for complexity |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.10.2010 at 15:20
And still Gothic is infinitely superior to this piece of horrendous 80s pop drivel
britney spears and lady gaga take even longer time to fix the sound they want and still it's not complex so that is not a criterium for complexity
You're wearing blinders some times marcelito i stick to my opinion, it still has more instruments partaking and the sound is more complex along with the composing sector, they definitely worked harder on that in any corner of the album, even the production, whereas on gothic they only have the basic instruments, some female vocals and some slight keyboards/orchestrations, they're not mozart anyway and they didn't care that much back then anyway, just a bunch of some horny newcomers with something dark in mind, but why not, lost paradise is more complex, changed my mind |
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Kenos - 15.11.2010 at 13:17
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| Such an underrated album... |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 13.06.2008 at 17:21
A horrible, horrible album. I fully agree with Angatupry on this one. This is like a second rate Depeche Mode and then to think I already hated the true original Depeche Mode. Nothing to do with metal or ven rock imo this album just electronic top 40 pop music. A shame of the talent Paradise Lost once possessed.
Depeche Mode are one of the best and more influential bands ever. You had to hate it of course. Proves that they are really good. 
As for the album it's good not less nor more, not even comparable with Songs of Faith and Devotion, Violator or Ultra for example. I remember when this album came out PL stated that this was completely based on DM work which was one of the bands biggest influences.
In fact they try to sound like them, and in certain extent they acheived it. Very enjoyable album to listen sometimes when you want calm relaxing and atmospheric music.. |
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Wow, Paradise Lost trying to sound like Depeche Mode, I really love Depeche Mode, in my opinion is one of the greatest bands ever.
Host sounds good, but hasn't any personality, if you show me this without saying what is band that released the album the first band I think is Depeche Mode. |
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