Written by Guest on 27.09.2012 at 05:59

How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?

Since I haven't got any reply yet I will add these band just outside top 100. If I find, or anyone gives me, a better description of the history of crossover I might adjust it later. And wasn't Corrosion Of Conformity quite influential in that genre too? I'm thinking of adding them too.

To make an even number I expanded the list to a top 140.

I have chosen ten more bands so now it is a 150 top.

Written by Guest on 27.09.2012 at 05:59

How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?

I have checked out the crossover thrash bands now. They sounded more interesting than I had expected. Especially liked Suicidal Tendencies - Lights Camera Revolution and Carnivore - Retaliation. Still not sure which of these bands that deserves to be highest on the list. Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.

Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.

wtf?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2013 at 13:33

Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.

wtf?

I have read an interview with Crowbar in Sweden Rock Magazine where they mention Carnivore as one of their major influences, and according to the wikipedia page for Eyehategod, they too mention Carnivore as one of their major influences. And next to Melvins and Neurosis I guess that Crowbar and Eyehategod have been the two most influential bands in the sludge genre.

Written by Aristarchos on 03.01.2013 at 16:50

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2013 at 13:33

Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.

wtf?

I have read an interview with Crowbar in Sweden Rock Magazine where they mention Carnivore as one of their major influences, and according to the wikipedia page for Eyehategod, they too mention Carnivore as one of their major influences. And next to Melvins and Neurosis I guess that Crowbar and Eyehategod have been the two most influential bands in the sludge genre.

lots of those bands will also mention Kiss as their influence, but that doesn't make Kiss influential for the sludge genre.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.01.2013 at 16:07

lots of those bands will also mention Kiss as their influence, but that doesn't make Kiss influential for the sludge genre.

Anyway, I guess Carnivore have been influential enough to be included on the list, don't you agree with that?

I discovered I had left out Vulcano. I definitely think they deserve to be on the list for starting the South American extreme metal scene and influencing bands like Sarcofago and Sepultura. I put them in on a random position.

I'm sorry, but this list is way too long for its own good. Why don't you just list two or three bands per metal subgenre that pioneered the genre? And order them properly... you'd still have a pretty big list then, but 150 is way too much in my opinion, for "influential" bands.

Written by Erik M. on 27.02.2013 at 23:35

I'm sorry, but this list is way too long for its own good. Why don't you just list two or three bands per metal subgenre that pioneered the genre? And order them properly... you'd still have a pretty big list then, but 150 is way too much in my opinion, for "influential" bands.

I think there are too many bands that have been part of shaping the metal genre for a short list, but if you want a shorter list you can only look at top 40. These are what I consider the most essential bands, that was how far I came when I still really tried to weigh every position against each other, after that it became impossible, although I have tried the best I can. If you have any objections against my order you can express them, I'm only glad for all feedback I receive.

I have no idea if anyone else cares about this list, but at least I think it has been very fun doing this list, and I have learnt a lot by all the research I have put down on it, and also by some of the comments so far.

I couldn't agree more with this list than I already do and all these bands definitely deserve a place here, but I don't know why Killing Joke isn't on this list. They started/heavily influenced industrial rock and metal in their later years and laid the foundation of Godflesh, not to mention influencing some of today's most well-known metal bands like Metallica, Korn, Slipknot, Ministry, even Nirvana and Soundgarden (although they're more grunge than metal). If any revision needs to be made to this list, Killing Joke needs a spot on it.

Written by SilentShredder on 23.01.2014 at 19:37

I couldn't agree more with this list than I already do and all these bands definitely deserve a place here, but I don't know why Killing Joke isn't on this list. They started/heavily influenced industrial rock and metal in their later years and laid the foundation of Godflesh, not to mention influencing some of today's most well-known metal bands like Metallica, Korn, Slipknot, Ministry, even Nirvana and Soundgarden (although they're more grunge than metal). If any revision needs to be made to this list, Killing Joke needs a spot on it.

Thanks! I agree Killing Joke being hugely influential for metal but I have never considered them metal enough for the list.

No Iced Earth? Seriously?

Written by vgmaster9 on 13.09.2014 at 04:37

No Iced Earth? Seriously?

Very popular band, but how many bands have been influenced by them?

No Summoning? Honestly, they pioneered Tolkien-themed epic (symphonic) black metal. All/most other Tolkien-themed (BM) bands have been influenced by Summoning. Minas Morgul (1995) is the first album on which their unique sound is heard.

Written by Erik M. on 12.10.2014 at 19:09

No Summoning? Honestly, they pioneered Tolkien-themed epic (symphonic) black metal. All/most other Tolkien-themed (BM) bands have been influenced by Summoning. Minas Morgul (1995) is the first album on which their unique sound is heard.

How many Tolkien-themed black metal bands are there? And I don't think the lyrics do matter that much, besides other metal bands (perhaps not black metal bands) have had Tolkien-influenced lyrics earlier. I agree though they have a unique sound, but I can't put every band with a unique sound on the list. It is really difficult to choose in the bottom. But I appreciate every suggestion I obtain, so thanks for your comment!

Written by Aristarchos on 23.10.2014 at 17:44

How many Tolkien-themed black metal bands are there? And I don't think the lyrics do matter that much, besides other metal bands (perhaps not black metal bands) have had Tolkien-influenced lyrics earlier. I agree though they have a unique sound, but I can't put every band with a unique sound on the list. It is really difficult to choose in the bottom. But I appreciate every suggestion I obtain, so thanks for your comment!

There are quite a few Tolkien-themed bands (as this list shows).

The main point is that Summoning is an influential band in the genre and the sound they had 18 years ago was back then totally unique. That alone should be enough to put them on the list. Strange what you say about lyrics, since lyrics obviously are a huge factor when it comes to what kind of theme a band is. If Summoning didn't have Tolkien lyrics (or referenced to the books) or song titles then what ties would they have to Tolkien? What I mean is that Tolkien-themed metal is a thing, as there are plenty of bands in that "subgenre".

Written by Erik M. on 25.10.2014 at 22:01

Written by Aristarchos on 23.10.2014 at 17:44

How many Tolkien-themed black metal bands are there? And I don't think the lyrics do matter that much, besides other metal bands (perhaps not black metal bands) have had Tolkien-influenced lyrics earlier. I agree though they have a unique sound, but I can't put every band with a unique sound on the list. It is really difficult to choose in the bottom. But I appreciate every suggestion I obtain, so thanks for your comment!

There are quite a few Tolkien-themed bands (as this list shows).

The main point is that Summoning is an influential band in the genre and the sound they had 18 years ago was back then totally unique. That alone should be enough to put them on the list. Strange what you say about lyrics, since lyrics obviously are a huge factor when it comes to what kind of theme a band is. If Summoning didn't have Tolkien lyrics (or referenced to the books) or song titles then what ties would they have to Tolkien? What I mean is that Tolkien-themed metal is a thing, as there are plenty of bands in that "subgenre".

OK, I added them in the end, but I never been a fan of genre names based upon themes and not the music, besides on that list Cirith Ungol is way earlier with Tolkien-theme, and in black metal Burzum is included, although I do not know if he had any more Tolkien-connection than the name.

Where is VAN HALEN and MOTLEY CRUE?

Written by Alejandry on 07.02.2015 at 20:15

Where is VAN HALEN and MOTLEY CRUE?

I excluded them because I don't consider them as metal. Perhaps first two mötley albums has an element of metal, but not enough for this list.

Pretty good list, but I'd personally include alternative metal bands like Tool and Korn. Also I'd order some things differently, but that's more minor.

Written by Ganondox on 03.09.2015 at 09:30

Pretty good list, but I'd personally include alternative metal bands like Tool and Korn. Also I'd order some things differently, but that's more minor.

I agree some alternative bands like Tool and KoRn deserves to be in the list, but I'm not enough in to that kind of music to tell which bands to include, and how high they deserves to be. What would you order differently?

Written by Aristarchos on 08.10.2015 at 15:58

Written by Ganondox on 03.09.2015 at 09:30

Pretty good list, but I'd personally include alternative metal bands like Tool and Korn. Also I'd order some things differently, but that's more minor.

I agree some alternative bands like Tool and KoRn deserves to be in the list, but I'm not enough in to that kind of music to tell which bands to include, and how high they deserves to be. What would you order differently?

It's just some really minor things, like Death before Possessed, In Flames before At the Gates, Ministry before Godflesh ect. , but that's me coming from more of an alternative metal background, and since all those bands are really influential and there is so many bands it's hard to place specific places and everyone has their own reasons.

How do you have time to listen to all these bands?

Written by 3030Will on 26.01.2016 at 23:52

How do you have time to listen to all these bands?

Sorry for late reply, I missed your comment for some reason. But I'm 31 and I have had periods in my life when I have been unemployed and spent my days listening to metal. I still don´t think I know anything about metal in comparison to a few other people on this site, especially Marcel.

Long time ago I checked this list, I felt I had to do some changes among the positions. Still I'm not an expert in all genres, so don't take the list too serious. It is still only for fun.