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Well, I've seen lots of lists here and I have to say, a noticeable percentage of these lists are great references for anyone interested in music, but I noticed that something new was missing.

What I'm going to do here, is to gather a lot of bands that have gone through major overhauls and transitions in their music, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEIR MUSIC IS GOOD OR NOT.

As this list is going to be informative, your suggestions and participation is GREATLY APPRECIATED so yeah, it's not your typical favorite album/artist list, it's not your typical best of X, it's going to be done using information.

I'm gonna put a HALL OF FAME for more prominent bands and artists in the scene, although it's more of a blacklist as they won't be added to our list as to make way for lesser known cases. If you have any other suggestions for the HALL OF FAME, then you're welcome. I would sort out the list based on alphabets once we reach a certain number.


HALL OF FAME:
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Avenged Sevenfold - Metalcore to heavy metal.
Alcest - Primitive black Metal to shoegazing atmospheric black pop rock or whatever that is.
Amon Amarth - Grindcore, then Johan Hegg happened.
Amorphis - Death metal to a blend of progressive, folk and heavy metal.
Anathema - Death/doom pioneer goes soft and ethereal.
Anthrax - The critically acclaimed New Yorkers turned alternative for a short period of time, but we can still blame them for rap metal.
Bathory - Proto-black metal influenced by Motorhead, became a pioneer of viking metal.
Behemoth - (I'll take the MSer's words for this one) Blackened death metal and of course black metal to death metal.
Burzum - Early black metal to skaldic ambient music.
Celtic Frost - Speed/death/thrash metal to gothic/doom metal.
Cradle Of Filth - black metal (with elements of death metal) to gothic or extreme metal.
Cryptopsy - "The Unspoken King" speaks for itself.
Cynic - Early prog death days overshadowed by a soothing jazz fusion approach.
Death - Obvious even for the average non-metalheads. Pure death metal to progressive extreme metal.
Dimmu Borgir - Symphonic elements were added later to their Norwegian brand of black metal.
Emperor - Dimmu Borgir syndrome.
Empyrium - Added more acoustic guitar to their music.
Entombed - A classic death metal act...suddenly Death N Roll happens. Seriously?
In Flames - I don't even wanna mention what happened there.
Judas Priest -From blues rock into heavy metal.
Katatonia - Black/doom, later playing alternative gothic metal.
Kreator - The industrial experimentations in the 90's were a departure from their teutonic thrash metal sound.
Led Zeppelin - Just like what happened with Judas Priest
Machine Head - Supercharger.
Mayhem - Experimentation, unorthodox transitions, still haunted for not being kvlt anymore.
Metallica - Horseman becomes the table. Thrash metal to...modern heavy/thrash metal. Everyone knows Load and ReLoad but in case you don't, in that period Metallica was hard rock.
Megadeth - Thrash metal to...wait, hard rock? Dave's so angry, he can make everyone disappear by closing his eyes.
Moonspell - Black metal to symphonic gothic metal or whatever you wanna name it.
Morbid Angel- We love you, guys. But we hate industrial death metal, it's as bad as Illud Divinum Insanus.
Neurosis - Hardcore evolving into "post-metal/tribal" music.
Opeth - Progressive extreme metal to 70's rock.
Pain Of Salvation - Taking prog music to a whole new level.
Pantera - Glam, glam, glam. Alright, just the visuals, but the music was more of a bright heavy/hard rock mania anyway.
Paradise Lost - death/doom to electro/gothic and then back to normal, ordinary gothic
Sepultura - Brazilian music is fine, guys. Unfortunately we miss your early thrash albums.
Type O Negative- I'm not sure if "Slow, Deep and Hard" can be considered hardcore gothic or gothic thrash. But that's how they evolved into this industrial/gothic doom band everyone's so fascinated by.
Ulver - Early black/folk metal to avant-garde chamber music.
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1. Ahab - Starting with The Giant, post-metal elements were added.
2. After Forever - With Floor Jansen being the catalyst here, the dutch band flourished after 1997, only to undergo another shift with the departure of Mark Jansen in 2002 and losing much of their gothic sound and adding progressive music to their symphonic charade.
3. Amoral - Death metal becomes rock.
4. Arcturus - Now everyone knows Garm-era Arcturus was more of a black metal band, don't they?
5. A Storm Of Light - Figured trendy post-metal wouldn't do justice to their talent and went more bombastic.
6. Blut Aus Nord - Another industrial transformation here, from atmo-black that is.
7. Darkthrone - I found it a little surprising that some people weren't aware that Darkthrone started out as a death metal outfit.
8. Dawn of Ashes - Heaven help us if they decide to go Funeral doom next time.
9. Dirge - Haven't dropped their industrial sound entirely, but it's a little too hard to fit them into that genre anymore.
10. Edenbridge - Power-Prog transition.
11. Enslaved - Black metal meets King Crimson.
12. Fields Of The Nephilim - Amidst the naming issues and the Queensryche-Tate-esque drama, McCoy and the gang released a death metal album titled "Zoon".
13. Forgotten Tomb - Depressive black metal goes gothic metal. I can't help but make a rather small remark here: They lost it.
14. Gorguts - Primitive death metal to thinking man's death metal.
15. Green Carnation - No need to mention what happened there.
16. Haggard - These Germans sprouted wings and escaped from the death metal territory, playing symphonic metal with folk influences.
17. In Mourning - Started out as a gothic band, only to evolve into their current progressive death metal sound.
18. In Solitude - It seems that my most recent favorite band has gone through a noticeable shift in their music. I listened to their self-titled album and the differences are there.
19. Job For A Cowboy - Deathcore to death metal, must have been a relief for those who hate deathcore.
20. Kauan - They seem to have dropped the last traces of their black metal sound. Pirut sounds like borderline funeral/symphonic doom metal.
21. Kekal - Ever-changing, never-failing to disappoint. Avant-garde is more of a state for these folks.
22. Killing Joke - "Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions" marked a new chapter in their career with industrial metal becoming a rather permanent fixture in their music.
23. Korn - Alternative metal experts decided to have fun with dropping the bass on "The Path of Totality" but after that, went back to their roots with a melodic aesthetic.
24. Mastodon - Prog/sludge bearded guys turned mostly progressive in their most recent album. They're changing all the time.
25. Napalm Death - Hardcore punk evolving into grindcore.
26. Nemesea - Another symphonic/gothic metal band turning soft...eh I mean, plastic.
27. Orphaned Land - Now just because I have good connections with Chen Balbus, it doesn't mean I will ignore how they went soft to focus on progressive-oriented folk music.
28. Pantheist - Funeral doom elites took a rather soft shift towards a fusion of doom metal and progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album.
29. Pestilence - Dropped their straightforward death metal sound for a more technical sound.
30. Samael - Black metal to electronic and industrial. Switzerland DOES have other bands, besides Celtic Frost and Eluveitie. :D
31. Sentenced - Death metal to...wait,Suomi metal?!
32. Sirenia - Didn't change much. Hang on...yeah, yeah, yeah, they absolutely changed their sound to be more accessible.
33. Summoning - The Austrian black metallers started out as pure primitive black metal, only to add folk elements to play an atmospheric variation of folk/black metal, or "epic" metal.
34. Theatre of Tragedy - "Beauty and the Beast" metal sacrificed for a more industrial rock approach, only to lose its place to classic gothic metal at the end.
35. The Disciples Of Zoldon - Doom metal getting a little intense. As intense as death metal.
36. The Gathering - Although pretty much prominent, it seems their early death/doom catalog has been overlooked.
37. The Ocean - The German symphonic sludge outfit's music was more primitive in the early days with no symphonic elements.
38. Therion - Therion was also another one of those death metal outfits who traded it with a more majestic approach.
39. Tiamat - Death metal goes dark and atmospheric.
40. Todtgelichter - The German black metallers hard-a-prog'ed to drop some of their primitive, raw sound.
41. Trouble - 80's doom icon, 90's stoner power-house.
42. Ulcerate - Getting a little too brutal there, aren't you guys?
43. Virgin Black - Started out with an operatic approach to Gothic metal, only to evolve their sound into doom metal.
44. While Heaven Wept - Another one of the most recent transitions to take place, utilizing more progressive metal in their music.
45. Wolverine - The Swedish prog band Wolverine played melodic death metal in the early days, before deciding that it would be fun to become a strong contestant in the prog scene.



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Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 12:20  
Darkthrone But was there any major noticeable transition in Darkthrone music later on ? I don't really think so, I believe they're still keeping up with their same old direction in their music. So I think they're not eligible to this list.

Quote:
progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album.


are you kidding me ? Come on!
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 12:24  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 12:20

Darkthrone

You knew I love Fenriz, right?
Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 12:27  
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:24


You knew I love Fenriz, right?


what the hell ? ! Get away from my sight, no one is allowed to love Fenriz except me
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 12:30  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 12:27

what the hell ? ! Get away from my sight, no one is allowed to love Fenriz except me

I mean how can someone hate a guy who takes interviews as a casual friendly discussion instead of a boring TV show?
Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 12:34  
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:30

I mean how can someone hate a guy who takes interviews as a casual friendly discussion instead of a boring TV show?



now I know that interview right ? I watched it before.
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 12:36  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 12:34

now I know that interview right ? I watched it before.

I knew. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it. But it's one of the most great interviews I've ever seen so I wouldn't mind watching it over and over.

As for Pantheist, they really moved to a more atmospheric sound while taking a nibble on rock music which is really a smooth departure from their previous albums like O'Solitude. As for Darkthrone,Like I said that it happened in the beginning. and it's "a fusion of doom metal and progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album." not prog music alone. Now there is a difference there.
Syk - 08.11.2013 at 12:43  
You asked nicely for more, so I give you more

Susperia Trouble The Disciples Of Zoldon The Faceless Obscura Jethro Tull Decrepit Birth Killing Joke Ulcerate Ulver/Arcturus Sadus Absu Samael Carcass Coroner Nile Behemoth Rotting Christ The Kovenant Satyricon 1349 Type O Negative Mastodon Def Leppard Job For A Cowboy Prong Life Of Agony Fear Factory Trivium Orphaned Land Bolt Thrower Anacrusis Sigh Darzamat Tristania Theatre Of Tragedy Nocturnal Rites Thin Lizzy and of course, HoFers, Led Zep, Queensrÿche Within Temptation Atrocity After Forever Nightwish & Gorguts
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 12:52  
Written by Syk on 08.11.2013 at 12:43

You asked nicely for more, so I give you more

Susperia Trouble The Disciples Of Zoldon The Faceless Obscura Jethro Tull Decrepit Birth Killing Joke Ulcerate Ulver/Arcturus Sadus Absu Carcass Type O Negative and of course, for the HoF, Led Zep


Great! thanks for the correction as well. Although I would say Ulver would qualify for Hall of Fame as well.
Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 12:57  
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:36


I knew. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it. But it's one of the most great interviews I've ever seen so I wouldn't mind watching it over and over.

As for Pantheist, they really moved to a more atmospheric sound while taking a nibble on rock music which is really a smooth departure from their previous albums like O'Solitude. As for Darkthrone,Like I said that it happened in the beginning. and it's "a fusion of doom metal and progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album." not prog music alone. Now there is a difference there.


I strongly disagree with you on Pantheist, no rock music influence is there, just plain doom metal, if you really want to tag rock influence on Pantheist, then 70 percent of the bands in metal will go under the same tag.

On Darkthrone I would say again, yeah they had a DM debut.... but :/ erm their general sound didn't change in my opinion. :/
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 13:03  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 12:57

Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:36


I knew. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it. But it's one of the most great interviews I've ever seen so I wouldn't mind watching it over and over.

As for Pantheist, they really moved to a more atmospheric sound while taking a nibble on rock music which is really a smooth departure from their previous albums like O'Solitude. As for Darkthrone,Like I said that it happened in the beginning. and it's "a fusion of doom metal and progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album." not prog music alone. Now there is a difference there.


I strongly disagree with you on Pantheist, no rock music influence is there, just plain doom metal, if you really want to tag rock influence on Pantheist, then 70 percent of the bands in metal will go under the same tag.

There are at least two people who would agree with me on that in MS, not to mention other people who would disagree. But that's just how you and I think. I have my reasons to say it has rock influence by listening to "The Storm" and hearing a prog rock-esque passage and you have yours which I would like to hear.
mz - 08.11.2013 at 13:04  
I have Blut aus Nord and Green Carnation on the top of my head. Also why not Deathspell Omega?
mz - 08.11.2013 at 13:10  
Also, sentenced, ministry and neurosis would be a good fit I think.
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.11.2013 at 13:11  
You could alos add Sameal who changed lot. As well as Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia
mz - 08.11.2013 at 13:13  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:11

You could alos add Sameal who changed lot. As well as Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia

well, anathema and katatonia are blacklisted here. You did not read the description completely, did you?
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 13:13  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:11

You could alos add Sameal who changed lot. As well as Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia

Well I've added them to the HALL OF FAME since a lot of people know that they've changed, what do you think? Adding Samael.
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.11.2013 at 13:15  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 12:57


I strongly disagree with you on Pantheist, no rock music influence is there, just plain doom metal, if you really want to tag rock influence on Pantheist, then 70 percent of the bands in metal will go under the same tag.

On Darkthrone I would say again, yeah they had a DM debut.... but :/ erm their general sound didn't change in my opinion. :/


Pantheist changed extremely lot in sound especially when you compared their self-titled to their earlier works and even their self-titled.

DarkThrone also changed extremely. First from their well-produced Morbid Angel like death metal on Soulside Journey to their underporduced raw black metal trilogy then to their simpler death metal again and then to their heavily punk infused bm and now to their also straight up old school heavy metal on their latest
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.11.2013 at 13:18  
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 13:13

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:11

You could alos add Sameal who changed lot. As well as Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia

well, anathema and katatonia are blacklisted here. You did not read the description completely, did you?


No, I didn't
Tbh I didn't read it at all
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 13:20  
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 13:10

Also, sentenced, ministry and neurosis would be a good fit I think.

added the first 4 here. I'll be back on the evening to add the rest. thanks again.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:18

No, I didn't
Tbh I didn't read it at all


hahahahaha xD, but still, I can't appreciate your suggestions enough all the time.
Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 13:25  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15

Pantheist changed extremely lot in sound especially when you compared their self-titled to their earlier works and even their self-titled.


Pantheist sound changed but to progressive rock ? :/ They're still doom metal :/

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15

DarkThrone also changed extremely. First from their well-produced Morbid Angel like death metal on Soulside Journey to their underporduced raw black metal trilogy then to their simpler death metal again and then to their heavily punk infused bm and now to their also straight up old school heavy metal on their latest


yeah that's tright but I always thought that their overall sound is the same although Darkthrone has been influenced by different styles :/
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 13:28  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 13:25

Pantheist sound changed but to progressive rock ? :/ They're still doom metal :/

smh...I did not say they're not doom metal anymore. The prog rock influences are there (this would probably be the second time I'm saying their music sounds like a mixture of doom and progressive rock.) but they still play doom metal albeit NOT funeral doom.
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.11.2013 at 13:28  
Written by Fritillaria on 08.11.2013 at 13:25

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15

Pantheist changed extremely lot in sound especially when you compared their self-titled to their earlier works and even their self-titled.


Pantheist sound changed but to progressive rock ? :/ They're still doom metal :/

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15

DarkThrone also changed extremely. First from their well-produced Morbid Angel like death metal on Soulside Journey to their underporduced raw black metal trilogy then to their simpler death metal again and then to their heavily punk infused bm and now to their also straight up old school heavy metal on their latest


yeah that's tright but I always thought that their overall sound is the same although Darkthrone has been influenced by different styles :/



Yes I would call thier latest progressive rock as well and not doom. I think even Kostas would agree they've moved away from doom.

And I disagree with the overall sound of DarkThrone staying the same, especially when you compare their debut to the rest.
Fritillaria - 08.11.2013 at 13:32  
Alright, at this point I have no idea
Neroese - 08.11.2013 at 22:01  
And where is Morbid Angel?
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 22:17  
Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 22:01

And where is Morbid Angel?

Added to the HALL OF FAME. Even beginners know what happens in 2011, does not stay in 2011.
Neroese - 08.11.2013 at 22:26  
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 22:17

Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 22:01

And where is Morbid Angel?

Added to the HALL OF FAME. Even beginners know what happens in 2011, does not stay in 2011.


Emm...I was joking, but okay:D
Monolithic - 08.11.2013 at 22:33  
Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 22:26

Emm...I was joking, but okay:D

Aha But still I forgot them because they're well-known around. Not exactly a great fan of their 2011 album but their sound...changed.
Neroese - 08.11.2013 at 23:17  
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 22:33

Aha But still I forgot them because they're well-known around. Not exactly a great fan of their 2011 album but their sound...changed.


They play now 'industrial metal'. In fact - I'm a great fan of industrial music and dark independent, and I really liked Remix Album of 2011 release. They made a wrong step to unknowed land (for them). Industrial metal isn't hard genre to play - just hire dj/keyboardist, add some synth layers and viola, we have indu metal, but when you're a some kind of king in particular genre, and you're trying to enter to other genre, it always ends the same (maybe Opeth is exception). But if they wanted to be king in indudeath, bitch, please, we have The Monolith Deathcult.
mz - 08.11.2013 at 23:26  
Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 23:17

(maybe Opeth is exception).

Not really . Their prog rock album was very average while their extreme prog metal is unique most of the time.
Neroese - 08.11.2013 at 23:30  
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 23:26

Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 23:17

(maybe Opeth is exception).

Not really . Their prog rock album was very average while their extreme prog metal is unique most of the time.


But referansing to the Metal Storm ratings, it's not as bad. Don't forget that some Opeth before prog rock sounds sometimes very rock or/and calm (my fav - Drapery Falls) which mean that even as prog rock, they know what are they doing.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 01:03  
First of all, definitely a good idea for a list. But...

WTF, no Summoning, Empyrium, Paradise Lost, Anathema and Katatonia (not sure what the purpose of the Hall of Fame is)? About Summoning: the difference between Lugburz (the debut) and Minas Morgul is huge. To elaborate: Lugburz is almost pure black metal while Minas Morgul marks the beginning of the true (famous) Summoning sound (which I'd call "epic atmospheric black metal"). About Empyrium, the first two albums are symphonic folk doom (yes, this genre tag comes the closest to the music they're playing) while the last two albums are totally different and are just (neo)folk. I don't think I have to explain why Anathema and Katatonia need to be added, right? About Paradise Lost: the first three albums are death doom and then they suddenly went gothic with the album Icon and never went back to the death doom metal they played (which is a damn shame). Also, not sure if Sirenia qualifies for this list. They went from awesome symphonic gothic (first two albums) to poppy gothic metal. Oh, and also Theatre of Tragedy. Their first two albums are gothic doom, then Aégis is gothic and after that their style changed drastically (which is noticeable if you look at the MS ratings, haha), but you might want to ask Mr. Doctor about that as I know he has heard everything ToT released and I have only listened to the first 3 albums. Alcest's debut is also totally different from the rest of their albums I think. The debut is post/shoegaze "metal", while the 2nd album actually has BM in it and is way heavier. Just noticed you don't have Opeth either.

About Kauan: the difference between the first and follow-up albums is huge as well. Also, they were never BM (maybe on Kuu... but I never heard that album). Just letting you know. Haven't heard Pirut, but I'm really looking forward to hear it, as the genre tag you give sounds very appealing to me.

Lastly... I'd have the list in alphabetical order as now it's annoying for me to check which bands are already here. Yeah, I know I'm lazy.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 01:35  
Okay, forget I mentioned Empyrium, Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia and Opeth (as I now understand the point of the Hall of Fame). That leaves you Summoning, Sirenia (not sure about this one), Theatre of Tragedy and Alcest to check out/add.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 01:42  
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 23:26

Not really . Their prog rock album was very average while their extreme prog metal is unique most of the time.


Heritage is a bad Opeth album but still a decent album at best, so I agree. Most of their albums are totally brilliant though.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 01:47  
Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 23:30

But referansing to the Metal Storm ratings, it's not as bad. Don't forget that some Opeth before prog rock sounds sometimes very rock or/and calm (my fav - Drapery Falls) which mean that even as prog rock, they know what are they doing.


They know what they are doing? Sorry, but what does that even mean? To me it's clear Mikael lost his ability to make brillant music in the last couple of years. Watershed was the first step towards their decline and Heritage is way worse. I fear what their 2014 album has in store for us... hopefully he'll suprise us again but I'm doubtful of this.
Monolithic - 09.11.2013 at 07:31  
Quote:
Well let's go straight to the points here:

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

About Summoning: the difference between Lugburz (the debut) and Minas Morgul is huge. To elaborate: Lugburz is almost pure black metal while Minas Morgul marks the beginning of the true (famous) Summoning sound (which I'd call "epic atmospheric black metal").

Oops...forgot Lugburz. That would definitely go to our list.

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

Also, not sure if Sirenia qualifies for this list. They went from awesome symphonic gothic (first two albums) to poppy gothic metal.


The music changed on the Enigma of Life for certain, regardless of whether it was a right move or not. (IMO, a terrible mistake which leaves even their 2013 effort in peril.)

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

Theatre of Tragedy. Their first two albums are gothic doom, then Aégis is gothic and after that their style changed drastically (which is noticeable if you look at the MS ratings, haha), but you might want to ask Mr. Doctor about that as I know he has heard everything ToT released and I have only listened to the first 3 albums.

Right-O! Added.

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

Alcest's debut is also totally different from the rest of their albums I think. The debut is post/shoegaze "metal", while the 2nd album actually has BM in it and is way heavier.

I always thought they always had that black sound but it became less apparent but yeah, you're right. It should be added.

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

About Kauan: the difference between the first and follow-up albums is huge as well. Also, they were never BM (maybe on Kuu... but I never heard that album). Just letting you know. Haven't heard Pirut, but I'm really looking forward to hear it, as the genre tag you give sounds very appealing to me.


Well not entirely black metal but if you have heard Lumikuuro, you may have heard the early black influences. Kuu... is a succession of their post-rock sound.

Lastly... I'd have the list in alphabetical order as now it's annoying for me to check which bands are already here. Yeah, I know I'm lazy.

It will be done once I reach 30 or something like that. I have to count them now.
Monolithic - 09.11.2013 at 07:50  
As for this on-going Opeth debate, I would say I do enjoy Heritage but not as an Opeth album. I gave it an 8 back then but if I wanted to change that, I would change it to 7.


Written by Syk on 08.11.2013 at 12:43

You asked nicely for more, so I give you more

Susperia Trouble The Disciples Of Zoldon The Faceless Obscura Jethro Tull Decrepit Birth Killing Joke Ulcerate Ulver/Arcturus Sadus Absu Samael Carcass Coroner Nile Behemoth Rotting Christ The Kovenant Satyricon 1349 Type O Negative Mastodon Def Leppard Job For A Cowboy Prong Life Of Agony Fear Factory Trivium Orphaned Land Bolt Thrower Anacrusis Sigh Darzamat Tristania Theatre Of Tragedy Nocturnal Rites Thin Lizzy and of course, HoFers, Led Zep, Queensrÿche Within Temptation Atrocity After Forever Nightwish & Gorguts

Well, now it seems more serious business than ever. :/ But still, thanks for the new suggestions. I'll add them soon enough.
Neroese - 09.11.2013 at 10:15  
Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:47

Written by Guest on 08.11.2013 at 23:30

But referansing to the Metal Storm ratings, it's not as bad. Don't forget that some Opeth before prog rock sounds sometimes very rock or/and calm (my fav - Drapery Falls) which mean that even as prog rock, they know what are they doing.


They know what they are doing? Sorry, but what does that even mean? To me it's clear Mikael lost his ability to make brillant music in the last couple of years. Watershed was the first step towards their decline and Heritage is way worse. I fear what their 2014 album has in store for us... hopefully he'll suprise us again but I'm doubtful of this.


And then Mikael comes with amazing prog death album that will blow every mind:P
Marcel Hubregtse - 09.11.2013 at 14:48  
Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 01:03

About Paradise Lost: the first three albums are death doom and then they suddenly went gothic with the album Icon



Mmmm, no, NOT suddenly, because Shades Of God was already a huge departue from 'Gothic' and already had loads of stuff in it which was further worked out on Icon. The move from Gothic to Icon was a gradual one and totally not an unexpected one since Icon sounds like a more polished version of most of Shades Of God.

And please read, which I didn't do so why I mentioned Anathem, PL and Katatonia as well, the description why they aren't in his list but are in the Hall Of Fame
Risto - 09.11.2013 at 15:47  
Amoral is missing. Also check out my review for The Human Connection by Chaos Divine
Marcel Hubregtse - 09.11.2013 at 17:24  
In addition to my post just now where I quoted Erik. I've relistened to the first four Paradise Lost albums and the change in sound from Gothic to Shades Of God is far greater than from Shades Of God to Icon. I con really is a very logical follow-up to Shades Of God whereas Shades of God isn't that at all to Gothic.
Monolithic - 09.11.2013 at 20:09  
Written by Risto on 09.11.2013 at 15:47

Amoral is missing. Also check out my review for The Human Connection by Chaos Divine

Added. Thanks! I'll check your reviews as well.
PS: iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 23:51  
Written by Monolithic on 09.11.2013 at 07:31

Your wall of text.


Good to see you added my suggestions, so my +1 is well-deserved.

About Sirenia: they already changed a lot on the 3rd album. And it's indeed a mistake because the first two albums (especially the debut) were great. Listened to Alcest's debut this evening and there's no BM at all in that album or I might just not hear it. It's 100% post-metal/shoegaze if you ask me. Oh, and I also have given Heritage a 7 by the way. All the other albums are 8-10, so it seems about a right score.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 23:53  
Written by Guest on 09.11.2013 at 10:15

And then Mikael comes with amazing prog death album that will blow every mind:P


Well, that would certainly be awesome. But I don't think it's going to happen, sadly.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 23:57  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.11.2013 at 14:48

Mmmm, no, NOT suddenly, because Shades Of God was already a huge departue from 'Gothic' and already had loads of stuff in it which was further worked out on Icon. The move from Gothic to Icon was a gradual one and totally not an unexpected one since Icon sounds like a more polished version of most of Shades Of God.

And please read, which I didn't do so why I mentioned Anathem, PL and Katatonia as well, the description why they aren't in his list but are in the Hall Of Fame


Okay, fair enough. I guess that's true. In any case Shades of God was the last album that can be called death doom, so I still think the difference between Shades of God and Icon is the biggest. Icon and Draconian Times are very similar in style, as are the first two albums (yet still different, I know).

For the record, I read most (or all) of the comments after I posted my message, so I indeed noticed you mentioned all those bands already. But I did read the description but somehow kind of missed the Hall of Fame's purpose. Weird I know, but in my defense, I was extremely tired yesterday.
Erik M. - 09.11.2013 at 23:59  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.11.2013 at 17:24

In addition to my post just now where I quoted Erik. I've relistened to the first four Paradise Lost albums and the change in sound from Gothic to Shades Of God is far greater than from Shades Of God to Icon. I con really is a very logical follow-up to Shades Of God whereas Shades of God isn't that at all to Gothic.


Oh I see. It's been a while since I listened to most of these. I just said the biggest difference is from SoG to Icon, but as you just re-listened them you're probably right.
Monolithic - 10.11.2013 at 00:14  
Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 23:51

Good to see you added my suggestions, so my +1 is well-deserved.

Well I really thank you for that. To make you even more satisfied with the list, I'm gonna sort it out tomorrow. I've reached the amount of artists I wanted so

Written by Erik M. on 09.11.2013 at 23:51

Listened to Alcest's debut this evening and there's no BM at all in that album or I might just not hear it.

Maybe you were referring to their first EP, Le Secret.


I changed the score I gave to some albums, Opeth included. I'm beginning to think that I've become more aware and picky about judging an album while retaining a taste of my own, I would have MS to thank for helping me to reach maturity in this case.
Erik M. - 10.11.2013 at 00:24  
Written by Monolithic on 10.11.2013 at 00:14

Well I really thank you for that. To make you even more satisfied with the list, I'm gonna sort it out tomorrow. I've reached the amount of artists I wanted so


Don't mention it. Good to know you'll alphabetize (is that even a word? ) the list. It will surely be better then I think.

Quote:

Maybe you were referring to their first EP, Le Secret.


I changed the score I gave to some albums, Opeth included. I'm beginning to think that I've become more aware and picky about judging an album while retaining a taste of my own, I would have MS to thank for helping me to reach maturity in this case.


Nope, I wasn't referring to their EP, but to the full length debut album. But thanks for reminding me I need to listen to Le Secret because I still haven't done that.

I have also become more critical when it comes to rating albums, although I still easily hand out 9's and 8's. 10's are only for albums that are truly remarkable and blow me away, so haven't given a lot of those.
Monolithic - 10.11.2013 at 08:48  
Written by Erik M. on 10.11.2013 at 00:24

Don't mention it. Good to know you'll alphabetize (is that even a word? ) the list. It will surely be better then I think.

It is done + Gorguts added.

PS: yep, that's a word. No doubt about it.
Erik M. - 10.11.2013 at 18:03  
Written by Monolithic on 10.11.2013 at 08:48

It is done + Gorguts added.

PS: yep, that's a word. No doubt about it.


Haha, never used that word before I think but it seemed right to me... anyway, the list is definitely not annoying anymore now.
Apothecary - 12.11.2013 at 23:45  
How can you not have Bathory on this list?
Seems almost obvious to me, Qurthon pretty much pioneered two subgenres of metal, and the transition from their black to viking metal sound was very blatant.
Monolithic - 13.11.2013 at 07:27  
Written by Apothecary on 12.11.2013 at 23:45

How can you not have Bathory on this list?
Seems almost obvious to me, Qurthon pretty much pioneered two subgenres of metal, and the transition from their black to viking metal sound was very blatant.

If you read the description, They're on the Hall of Fame section up there since pretty much everyone know about them. But now that you mentioned, I'm thinking about merging the list with the hall of fame since I realized that I've been quite subjective to choose the candidates although I'm pretty busy (and lazy) to do it for now.

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