musclassia StaffPosts: 7627 |
02.04.2020 - 16:50Rating: 6
I will give it a listen, because I haven't minded some of their more recent stuff and I really enjoyed their show last month. However, the new songs they played that night seemed pretty forgettable so not expecting much from this.
And yeah, wishing them all swift recoveries - sounds like Chuck's over the worst of it by a recent post I saw, hope that remains the case.
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AndreaAdAstraHhdesig
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First honest review for titans. good job!
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7348 |
Written by AndreaAdAstraHhdesig on 02.04.2020 at 20:14
First honest review for titans. good job!
First comment since 2013. I am honoured!
I cannot believe all the extremely favourable reviews and, quite honestly, they all look like copy-paste stuff. It's as if they are deliberately trying to suck up to Nuclear Blast. I noticed the same thing with the latest My Dying Bride album.
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I'm buying this album and will listen to the CD version shortly and post my take. I love this band, but some of their material can be redundant. I love several songs off Dark Roots and Snakes, but there are many I skip over.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
03.04.2020 - 00:39Rating: 6
A very accurate review. Testament haven't released a really great album since "The Legacy"... Surely, "New Order" and "The Gathering" are quite good, but that's basically it. This is the weakest legendary thrash metal band in existence. Also, I saw them live 6 weeks ago - they were great.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7348 |
Written by Daniell on 03.04.2020 at 00:39
A very accurate review. Testament haven't released a really great album since "The Legacy"... Surely, "New Order" and "The Gathering" are quite good, but that's basically it. This is the weakest legendary thrash metal band in existence. Also, I saw them live 6 weeks ago - they were great.
Thanks Daniell. You actually give me the opportunity to share the intro I initially wrote for this review:
Four years after Brotherhood Of The Snake we have a new album by Testament, aka the band many people mention as the one that should have taken Anthrax's place in the Big Four. If you belong in the above group of people, I've got news for you: Testament could never be part of the Big Four because they were blatantly copying the biggest band of the Big Four. And despite the fact that their first three albums are top quality thrash, they couldn't belong in that group when their sound was so obviously borrowed from Metallica. Furthermore, there is also a very good reason why those four particular bands were the most popular at the time - and thus were named the "Big Four" - and the reason is that they simply were the best. Deal with it. If there was one band that deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence with any of those four in that group, it was only Overkill. But they were from New Jersey.
I don't regret ditching the above paragraph because a) the Big Four issue has been discussed to death, b) the text comes across as quite opinionated and a bit like "come my grandchildren, let's sit in front of the fireplace and I'll tell you one or two things about thrash". I do stand by the truth in it though. And I agree with you, they are great live and the weakest legendary thrash band in existence. They are amazing musicians, I wish they could write better songs.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I agree whit polish guy, its been long band had good album out, but last and this is not bad, but I like whole albun, i listen from 1 to last song, to me albums are important thing, it was finish kaaos tv who asked such quastion like years ago Why band out out albums, all likes Spotify single. Well there are chosen few who likes real cd
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7348 |
Written by Bad English on 03.04.2020 at 17:04
Well there are chosen few who likes real cd
I am an album guy too. That's how I learned to appreciate music and I don't intend to change. Three or four good songs don't make for an overall good album, and if the rest of it is skippable I'll just skip the entire thing and not buy it or even bother to listen to those three or four tracks that are good. I can live with one or two fillers on a record but that's just about it.
There is so much good music around us, it is completely pointless to me to pay any attention to half-assed efforts.
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RaduP CertifiedHipster StaffPosts: 9028 |
03.04.2020 - 18:04Rating: 6
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Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
There is so much good music around us, it is completely pointless to me to pay any attention to half-assed efforts.
Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
Having listened to this a double-digit number of times [...]
Hmmmm
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Written by RaduP on 03.04.2020 at 18:04
Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
There is so much good music around us, it is completely pointless to me to pay any attention to half-assed efforts.
Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
Having listened to this a double-digit number of times [...]
Hmmmm
Indeed...
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7348 |
Written by RaduP on 03.04.2020 at 18:04
Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
There is so much good music around us, it is completely pointless to me to pay any attention to half-assed efforts.
Written by nikarg on 03.04.2020 at 17:35
Having listened to this a double-digit number of times [...]
Hmmmm
Yeah, I hate it when I have to make exceptions for reviewing purposes.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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04.04.2020 - 00:23Rating: 6
Great review.
Finished my 1st sitting, and I got the feeling it's the worst mixing of B side of "Dark Roots of Earth". At least, half of the time I thought I'm genuinely listening to Dark Roots like "WWIII" resembles "True American Hate" or punches in Dream Deceiver reminds me of "Native Blood". As nik said, it's a worth of EP.
Quote: impressive abilities of both DiGiorgio and Hoglan;
And this. Perhaps one of the best rhythmic sections ever to be heard in their records.
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Aries Rising
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04.04.2020 - 03:38Rating: 8
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 04.04.2020 at 00:23
Great review.
Finished my 1st sitting, and I got the feeling it's the worst mixing of B side of "Dark Roots of Earth". At least, half of the time I thought I'm genuinely listening to Dark Roots like "WWIII" resembles "True American Hate" or punches in Dream Deceiver reminds me of "Native Blood". As nik said, it's a worth of EP.
Quote: impressive abilities of both DiGiorgio and Hoglan;
And this. Perhaps one of the best rhythmic sections ever to be heard in their records.
I dunno, while Hoglan is the better drummer, I still think Dave's performance on The Gathering was the high water mark for the band.
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Aries Rising
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04.04.2020 - 06:36Rating: 8
Another review I read put it succinctly: "Titans of Creation is essentially one half of a very good Testament album, rounded out with an okay other half."
There are some good songs but the album overall needs to be shortened.
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Nejde
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Written by nikarg on 02.04.2020 at 21:30
Written by AndreaAdAstraHhdesig on 02.04.2020 at 20:14
First honest review for titans. good job!
First comment since 2013. I am honoured!
I cannot believe all the extremely favourable reviews and, quite honestly, they all look like copy-paste stuff. It's as if they are deliberately trying to suck up to Nuclear Blast. I noticed the same thing with the latest My Dying Bride album.
Sadly the record companies have many music journalists and reviewers in their pockets. Give a favourable review and you keep getting press releases and do interviews with the bands, a bad review and you're out in the cold. That is why Metalstorm is and always will be my go to website for news, reviews and such. There's no ass kissing here. Just honesty be it good or bad.
I also like that you can have your own opinion without getting a hate storm like in a Youtube comments section if you disagree with others. And none of the mods here act high and mighty. Everyone seems so down to earth and that goes for regular users too btw. We're all here to share our knowledge, admiration and love for metal with each other and everyone keeps it friendly.
Finally, great review and this doesn't make me change my opinion about Testament. Never been a big fan and this seems to be another generic album just like the last 5-6 Megadeth albums. Might dive in to their older stuff though
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Written by Nejde on 04.04.2020 at 13:10
Sadly the record companies have many music journalists and reviewers in their pockets. Give a favourable review and you keep getting press releases and do interviews with the bands, a bad review and you're out in the cold. That is why Metalstorm is and always will be my go to website for news, reviews and such. There's no ass kissing here. Just honesty be it good or bad.
I also like that you can have your own opinion without getting a hate storm like in a Youtube comments section if you disagree with others. And none of the mods here act high and mighty. Everyone seems so down to earth and that goes for regular users too btw. We're all here to share our knowledge, admiration and love for metal with each other and everyone keeps it friendly.
Finally, great review and this doesn't make me change my opinion about Testament. Never been a big fan and this seems to be another generic album just like the last 5-6 Megadeth albums. Might dive in to their older stuff though
Thank you. We may have shit taste in music but we definitely don't suck up to anyone and whatever you read is honest assessment. It may be wrong, but it is honest. I have had this album for three weeks. I took it with me while running, while working out, driving my car or in the tube commuting to and from work, I listened to it while cooking or while... you get the point. I was leaving it for a few days and picking it up again. It never made a more-than-average impression. The 6 is mainly for the amazing musicianship.
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Written by Aries Rising on 04.04.2020 at 06:36
Another review I read put it succinctly: "Titans of Creation is essentially one half of a very good Testament album, rounded out with an okay other half."
I googled the quoted sentence and found the review, it was posted a day before this one. What AMG's Steel Druhm and I have in common is that we got to know Testament in their heyday and our perception of the band and its music is different. I am not saying it is better or worse than everyone else's, just different. I see reviewers giving out 8s and 9s and 10s for this album and I am wondering what would they rate The Legacy and The New Order? 25?
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Aries Rising
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05.04.2020 - 07:50Rating: 8
Written by nikarg on 05.04.2020 at 02:03
Written by Aries Rising on 04.04.2020 at 06:36
Another review I read put it succinctly: "Titans of Creation is essentially one half of a very good Testament album, rounded out with an okay other half."
I googled the quoted sentence and found the review, it was posted a day before this one. What AMG's Steel Druhm and I have in common is that we got to know Testament in their heyday and our perception of the band and its music is different. I am not saying it is better or worse than everyone else's, just different. I see reviewers giving out 8s and 9s and 10s for this album and I am wondering what would they rate The Legacy and The New Order? 25?
I've noticed that as a trend, a lot of bands are getting good scores more for who they are instead of what they are capable of producing. I mean great brands should be held to a higher standard right? The measuring stick for Testament is The Legacy, The New Order and The Gathering, does Titans come close to those? No, so it shouldn't be rated as highly as those.
Another trend I that I really dislike, and Testament seems to have fallen into with the last few records, is the act of putting music out just to have new music available. Bands just do this so they can go tour again with a few new songs to justify going and seeing them play live. The fact that bands don't make bank like they did in the 60s-90s from albums and all other revenue streams makes a lot of bands play it safe once they reach a certain level of success. It's honestly starting to turn me off from music to a degree.
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Aries Rising
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05.04.2020 - 07:52Rating: 8
Written by Nejde on 04.04.2020 at 13:10
Written by nikarg on 02.04.2020 at 21:30
Written by AndreaAdAstraHhdesig on 02.04.2020 at 20:14
First honest review for titans. good job!
First comment since 2013. I am honoured!
I cannot believe all the extremely favourable reviews and, quite honestly, they all look like copy-paste stuff. It's as if they are deliberately trying to suck up to Nuclear Blast. I noticed the same thing with the latest My Dying Bride album.
Sadly the record companies have many music journalists and reviewers in their pockets. Give a favourable review and you keep getting press releases and do interviews with the bands, a bad review and you're out in the cold. That is why Metalstorm is and always will be my go to website for news, reviews and such. There's no ass kissing here. Just honesty be it good or bad.
I also like that you can have your own opinion without getting a hate storm like in a Youtube comments section if you disagree with others. And none of the mods here act high and mighty. Everyone seems so down to earth and that goes for regular users too btw. We're all here to share our knowledge, admiration and love for metal with each other and everyone keeps it friendly.
Finally, great review and this doesn't make me change my opinion about Testament. Never been a big fan and this seems to be another generic album just like the last 5-6 Megadeth albums. Might dive in to their older stuff though
Sadly it's like that in all mediums now. Video games, movies, music, all of them. If you say something negative about ANYTHING, you lose access and that can be a death sentence to a journalist or even a "successful" amateur reviewer.
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I agree with the review. It's a very average album in terms of the quality of the songs. Sure it has a bit of an impact during the first 2-3 songs because it's thrash metal and it's supposed to hype you up. Also the production is really good. However after Night of The Witch it gets soooo repetitive and boring that i can't listen to it from start to finish without zoning out into thinking "man, this album should've ended at 30 min mark".
Some cool riffs spreaded throughout the album, but overall it's an average thrash metal output.
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AndreaAdAstraHhdesig
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Written by nikarg on 02.04.2020 at 21:30
Written by AndreaAdAstraHhdesig on 02.04.2020 at 20:14
First honest review for titans. good job!
First comment since 2013. I am honoured!
I cannot believe all the extremely favourable reviews and, quite honestly, they all look like copy-paste stuff. It's as if they are deliberately trying to suck up to Nuclear Blast. I noticed the same thing with the latest My Dying Bride album.
reading metalstorm since 2013, true.... quarantine makes changes ;-)
Latest MDB is quite forgettable, NB don't push too much on the artist, i think, to be honest....are the band themself that have a lack of creativity. think about Sepultura, nile, possessed or so on... NB but good stuff (IMHO)... maybe this is the last testament for testamen...
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This album has now got me into testament after have never listened to them before
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Răzvan
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19.04.2020 - 13:01Rating: 8
I'm one of those who like Testament's more recent output, even though for me the high-water mark was The Gathering, so I guess it's not surprising that I'm also enjoying this latest album. However I understand some will mark this record down because it sounds let's say too "typical" of modern thrash albums. Then again for me Testament is like an old comfy pair of slippers - they may not be as fresh as they once were, maybe a little ragged around the edges, but I know exactly what I'm getting into and that they will fit me perfectly.
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Written by Răzvan on 19.04.2020 at 13:01
I'm one of those who like Testament's more recent output, even though for me the high-water mark was The Gathering, so I guess it's not surprising that I'm also enjoying this latest album. However I understand some will mark this record down because it sounds let's say too "typical" of modern thrash albums. Then again for me Testament is like an old comfy pair of slippers - they may not be as fresh as they once were, maybe a little ragged around the edges, but I know exactly what I'm getting into and that they will fit me perfectly.
Exactly. Sometimes metal fans are too harsh because of their expectations. Sometimes they're condemning new records because it's not what they were expecting or because it's nothing new and revolutionary in some sense. But anyone who will look in the past on progressive years of Testament (mostly 1992-1999) cannot be expecting some more of that progressive direction today. But they're still making solid music.
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Marthyria
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Testament's sound is classic. Together with Exodus, Overkill and Death angel, they can be considered truly important for the thrash metal style development, almost as the Big four. Even after 40 years, and the natural evolution of the music style along these years, Testament keeps the same classic sound that characterize them. Great album!
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Metren Dreadrealm
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23.04.2020 - 18:09Rating: 7
7/10 for me. With the opening tracks and that production I was ready to love this album, but it does get weaker towards the end and indeed also overstays its welcome. Nice review!
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sacha
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07.07.2020 - 12:49Rating: 6
6/10 is probably about right, in that it's competently executed and there's nothing about it I find unlistenable. However, even more so than the last couple of albums this feels almost 100% recycled, and I'm half tempted to go through each riff and catalogue which other Testament song it first appeared in. As an example, the first riff on Catacombs is basically a looped snippet from Legions (in Hiding) off Low.
So while I agree that nothing on the album is memorable, that's not quite true, I remember most of it, just from other Testament albums.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7348 |
Written by sacha on 07.07.2020 at 12:49
6/10 is probably about right, in that it's competently executed and there's nothing about it I find unlistenable. However, even more so than the last couple of albums this feels almost 100% recycled, and I'm half tempted to go through each riff and catalogue which other Testament song it first appeared in. As an example, the first riff on Catacombs is basically a looped snippet from Legions (in Hiding) off Low.
So while I agree that nothing on the album is memorable, that's not quite true, I remember most of it, just from other Testament albums.
I am obviously in complete agreement. If you actually decide to bother finding where each riff was used initially, please let us know. I started doing the same for the latest Rotting Christ album but got very annoyed halfway and stopped.
Welcome to Metal Storm, by the way
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