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Posted by Damnated, 11.07.2006 - 00:01
The following thing happened here, in Romania the other weeks, and it evolved into a big thing. A family returned from a holiday, and cuz it was very hot outside, on their way home, they stopped at a lake. The head of the family grew up near that place. They got in the lake, to have a swim. A young man came, and started to shout, saying, the lake is private proprety. Then he left, and called his father. The guy came with a shotgun, and started to shout at the swimming family, firing his gun. The swimers freaked out, and got out of the water, heading for their car. They got in, but the armed guy aproached to the car, and from 2 feet, he shot the guy in the head. He was 29 years old, had children and died on 09.07.

My question is this: do we need guns? Shure, we must protect our teritory, but by killing someone? (and not from self defence) . I know that in the US the 2nd amendment sais, that 'A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.'. But the world changed a lot since 1791...

Poll

Do we need guns?

No
140
Yes
129

Total votes: 269
15.08.2011 - 22:51
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Monolithic on 15.08.2011 at 22:38
Though people have different amount of intelligence...

Some people honestly just don't have enough.
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16.08.2011 - 06:21
Void Eater
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If a criminal breaks into my house in the middle of the night, I should be allowed to have a gun and shoot him. Criminals will have guns whether they are legal or not. The crazy Romanian rednecks who shoot people in their lakes will have guns whether or not they are legal. Outlawing them among law abiding citizens would simply make break-ins much easier.

That being said, I live in Texas

All you libs who voted no can get the fuck off of my property
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16.08.2011 - 09:22
Monolithic
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 15.08.2011 at 22:51

Written by Monolithic on 15.08.2011 at 22:38
Though people have different amount of intelligence...

Some people honestly just don't have enough.

True...I agree
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Anyway, I enjoyed reading most of the opinions, and no, I'm not gonna flood this topic or anything
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24.08.2011 - 15:30
Daniell
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 15.08.2011 at 22:51

Written by Monolithic on 15.08.2011 at 22:38
Though people have different amount of intelligence...

Some people honestly just don't have enough.

Most, not some.
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01.09.2011 - 22:15
Valentin B
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Written by [user id=111774] on 16.08.2011 at 06:21

If a criminal breaks into my house in the middle of the night, I should be allowed to have a gun and shoot him. Criminals will have guns whether they are legal or not. The crazy Romanian rednecks who shoot people in their lakes will have guns whether or not they are legal. Outlawing them among law abiding citizens would simply make break-ins much easier.

yet, how many times has that happened in your life? just because it happened to some dude you used to know 10 years ago does not mean that (if you live in a normal neighborhood) your house will get broken into. what if aliens abduct you, you should probably also get a GPS tracker implanted in your skin so your friends know where you are.
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02.09.2011 - 13:57
Necrogeddon
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I only agree with guns in a recreational scene, target shooting is fun. Guns in a redneck 'get off my property' way is not fun. Guns + low intelligence = shot off foot/blown off face/death.
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05.09.2011 - 05:57
Ankläger
Everyone should have a gun surgically grafted to their arm. Because it's a whole different story when everyone has one.
It's no longer a matter of "shoot this guy", it's "shoot this guy before he shoots me"
Or, we could all just live in peace and have no use for guns other than propelling objects across great distances, and NOT towards other living organisms.
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07.11.2011 - 20:16
metalheadpunk
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All you libs who voted no can get the fuck off of my property

Hell yeah. Liberals are nothing but hypocrite sons of bitches. Its my God given right to have guns.
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12.11.2011 - 06:22
Anthem
In the united states. the cities with the highest crime rates, 9 of the top 10 are run by Democrats. Also the cities with the highest crime rates happen to be the cities with the strongest gun laws.
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12.11.2011 - 22:40
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Anthem on 12.11.2011 at 06:22
In the united states. the cities with the highest crime rates, 9 of the top 10 are run by Democrats. Also the cities with the highest crime rates happen to be the cities with the strongest gun laws.

Do you have a source for that information?
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15.11.2011 - 09:43
JCJen7
Written by Anthem on 12.11.2011 at 06:22

In the united states. the cities with the highest crime rates, 9 of the top 10 are run by Democrats. Also the cities with the highest crime rates happen to be the cities with the strongest gun laws.

if you do, don't post it, because you have exactly 666 comments
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24.11.2011 - 19:13
Why not? I am responsible man.
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05.12.2011 - 19:30
arwestromen
Where I come from the only people who are allowed to own guns and have them in their homes are certified hunters, people in these shooting range clubs, collectors....and that's about it....so I voted no....I don't see why people whould need to have guns except for those reasons.
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09.12.2011 - 22:14
A.Ghosheh
One thing that differ us from animal is that we created guns. god bless technology, god fucks our minds
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05.01.2012 - 03:53
Boxcar Willy
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I have no problem with guns, I don't own one, but around here lots of people do, for hunting.
As for the killing other people, its the people not the guns. Banning guns is the sort of knee-jerk reaction, like when a parent was hit in the face with a soccer ball at a school in southern ontario, the parent suffered a concussion and as a result the school banned all balls from the school.

Not all people are pyshcopaths.
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05.01.2012 - 04:02
Troy Killjoy
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 05.01.2012 at 03:53
Not all people are pyshcopaths.

But all balls are. That's the real moral of the story.
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05.01.2012 - 04:54
Boxcar Willy
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.01.2012 at 04:02

Written by Boxcar Willy on 05.01.2012 at 03:53
Not all people are pyshcopaths.

But all balls are. That's the real moral of the story.

the one time i post a serious reply


one more and your at 10000
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18.02.2012 - 22:31
ThunderAxe1989
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While I won't vote on this poll right away, as I'm being very careful with how I answer.......all I have to say on the matter is,
whether the common person can legally buy a gun or not, the criminal will ALWAYS have access to guns.......
so as far as like gun control goes, in my opinion it cannot work.
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19.02.2012 - 12:10
Twilight
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My thoughts on this are as follows:

You can't ban drugs, because there will always be a market for it. Since people remain interested and it isn't considered lethal.
As long as there's a market, there will be people who can produce the stuff.
But I don't think the same thing goes for guns. It needs quite some effort to make a gun, it isn't like a hidden LSD lab at all (or cocain).
Guns are produced en masse by multiple countries, and it's not like they hide these kind of things. In fact, you can't hide it, because the industry is huge.

So what will happen if these factories cease to exist?
Exactly.

But then again, they still might be produced in small amounts in some place far away. But then weapons like that aren't really spread far and wide anymore.

I don't know. In the end it really comes down to the people and their intentions. People that don't like or want war will never allow guns to be produced.
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19.02.2012 - 16:37
Sophist
The example in the OP is sad, but I still think that people should be able to posses firearms, provided they are deemed responsible, better safe than sorry is my motto.
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20.02.2012 - 23:12
Sonic MrSumo
Guns are entirely and utterly pointless. I challenge anyone to give me one plausible reason for the existence of mans most abominable invention.

Unfortunately the "need" for them is self perpetuating. "He has a gun; therefore I need two guns that are bigger than his". "Oh, he now has two guns that are bigger than my one gun. I must go and get two more guns that are even bigger!". And thus, the vicious cycle goes on.
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21.02.2012 - 04:54
BlueMobius
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I love guns. They are fun to shoot. Great for competitions. And the only evil connected with them are the evil men that use them for wrongful acts. Man would find another adequate tool for killing if the gun was never invented. I'd much rather be shot than stabbed anyway.
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21.02.2012 - 14:23
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Written by [user id=20536] on 21.02.2012 at 04:54

I love guns. They are fun to shoot.

The haircut is a total giveaway.
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22.02.2012 - 01:56
BlueMobius
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Written by [user id=4365] on 21.02.2012 at 14:23

Written by [user id=20536] on 21.02.2012 at 04:54

I love guns. They are fun to shoot.

The haircut is a total giveaway.

Stereotype much? My hair is short because I work in a professional environment. I also like it because it's easy to dry and quick to ready in the morning. If anything, my love of guns can probably be correlated to the area in which I was raised.
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22.02.2012 - 19:54
Slayer666
Written by [user id=4365] on 21.02.2012 at 14:23

The haircut is a total giveaway.

You didn't think that pic on his profile where he shoots a gun is more of a giveaway?
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22.02.2012 - 20:26
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Written by Slayer666 on 22.02.2012 at 19:54

You didn't think that pic on his profile where he shoots a gun is more of a giveaway?

I have no clever comeback to this.
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23.02.2012 - 00:52
IronAngel
I don't understand this "gun control can't work anyway" nonsense. It's a clear statistical fact that free access to guns correlates with high murder rate. There's no civil freedoms, morality or political lobbying to consider here: if people in my country/neighbourhood have free access to guns, I am more likely to be shot. The only rational thing is to not want that. Ergo, civilian access to guns should be restricted. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

I don't understand the view that you should be allowed to shoot someone breaking into your house. That's ridicilous overreaction, more likely to get you killed (why would a burglar shoot the inhabitants if they didn't have guns and he knew it, because they were outlawed?), and vigilantism is generally bad anyway. Whoever thinks individuals have the right to protect their property with (lethal) force missed the memo when society was invented. You know, that thing that grants you protection in exchange for giving up your personal freedom to seek retribution.
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06.03.2012 - 01:33
Branzig
No we don't need guns, specifically not hand guns. Hand guns are really only good for killing. Some hardcore hunting enthusiasts will go out hunting with high power mags, but for the most part a Glock 17 or Ruger P90 is going to be putting a bullet in a person, not an animal.

So I vote no for pistols, yes for recreational rifles/shotguns with the proper permits.

And of course as many have already noted, it doesn't matter so much if guns are legal or not, criminals will still be able to get them, but by making hand guns much harder to obtain' it will put a damper on things.
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10.03.2012 - 15:40
DJ Mythos
It's not so much that I'm pro-gun, but that I'm anti-gun control. It doesn't work. The only people who lose out when strict gun control laws are enforced are lawful citizens. The criminal will find ways to get a gun. Gun control does nothing to disarm violent criminals. All gun control means is that a thug can break into my house and hurt me with a gun, and since I obey the laws, I will not be able to defend myself.
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10.03.2012 - 15:47
Branzig
Written by DJ Mythos on 10.03.2012 at 15:40

It's not so much that I'm pro-gun, but that I'm anti-gun control. It doesn't work. The only people who lose out when strict gun control laws are enforced are lawful citizens. The criminal will find ways to get a gun. Gun control does nothing to disarm violent criminals. All gun control means is that a thug can break into my house and hurt me with a gun, and since I obey the laws, I will not be able to defend myself.

I just must live in the nicest place on Earth, because I have heard people say that stricter gun laws just take the weapons out of the good citizens hands to defend themselves, but I've never had a thug bust into my home, my parents have never had anyone come in their household with a gun. None of my in-laws have either and they all live throughout the country.

Sometimes I feel like the boogey man holding a Glock is just a propaganda tool used by dealers and manufactures to sell guns...because no one can deny that guns are BIG business in the US of A, and in the kingdom of fear, it's awful easy to scare people into purchasing things.
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