Written by Stalker on 19.04.2008 at 01:07

Double standards - Its OK to shout everywhere "Varg Vikernes is legend", yet we cant have Temnozor on MS.

You are comparing two different things here. Creating a band profile for Temnozor would be promoting them, and therefore, their ideology. (Something I do not necessarily agree with, but I am part of the Staff and as such part of the democratic system, thus I stand by and support this opinion.) However, simply saying "Vikernes is legend" is harmless for many reasons:

- he claims to have never been a nazi, but simply misunderstood or misinformed.
- he has been deemed 'safe'

But most important: freedom of speech. That we do not support certain bands through a profile, does not instantly mean we forbid all communication about them. We allow topics about Temnozor, right?

Written by Lucas on 19.04.2008 at 01:42

Written by Stalker on 19.04.2008 at 01:07

Double standards - Its OK to shout everywhere "Varg Vikernes is legend", yet we cant have Temnozor on MS.

You are comparing two different things here. Creating a band profile for Temnozor would be promoting them, and therefore, their ideology. (Something I do not necessarily agree with, but I am part of the Staff and as such part of the democratic system, thus I stand by and support this opinion.) However, simply saying "Vikernes is legend" is harmless for many reasons:

- he claims to have never been a nazi, but simply misunderstood or misinformed.
- he has been deemed 'safe'

But most important: freedom of speech. That we do not support certain bands through a profile, does not instantly mean we forbid all communication about them. We allow topics about Temnozor, right?

Yes, you are right, and I agree with you , like 90%.
But I mentioned that because of the NS thing, which is, lets say, in common with them.
I dont agree that just because he said he is not Nazi or wahtever, we should say "oh, hes ok" of course, Nazis are mostly dead by now, but there are other not-so-nice names that he could be attributed.. And to say that man who is in jail form murder, churchburnings and thngs like that is safer than the band who just plays music, well, I dont really think so.
Anyway, the only thing Im saying this is because I think Temnozor is really a good band of its kind, and deal much more with other themes than those which cold be deemed NS (and for which I dont give a shit and certainly dont support).
Appart form those things, I agree with you and understand your (MS') point.

Written by Lucas on 19.04.2008 at 01:42

Written by Stalker on 19.04.2008 at 01:07

Double standards - Its OK to shout everywhere "Varg Vikernes is legend", yet we cant have Temnozor on MS.

You are comparing two different things here. Creating a band profile for Temnozor would be promoting them, and therefore, their ideology. (Something I do not necessarily agree with, but I am part of the Staff and as such part of the democratic system, thus I stand by and support this opinion.) However, simply saying "Vikernes is legend" is harmless for many reasons:

- he claims to have never been a nazi, but simply misunderstood or misinformed.
- he has been deemed 'safe'

But most important: freedom of speech. That we do not support certain bands through a profile, does not instantly mean we forbid all communication about them. We allow topics about Temnozor, right?

I can find all kinds of nasty stuff about Varg on the internet, but nothing on Temnozor. So what is wrong with Temnozor, anyway?

Written by [user id=22888] on 22.04.2008 at 05:18

I can find all kinds of nasty stuff about Varg on the internet, but nothing on Temnozor. So what is wrong with Temnozor, anyway?

They claim National Socialist ideologies supposedly. I find it hypocritical that Anti-Christian bands allowed in the Metalstorm band archives but not National Socialist bands. It is discrimination and hate both ways. So how can you allow some but not the other? It's either or friends.

i am not a Nazi, but there would be a chance for for them like all other communities which are discussed like Satanism, Islam, Communism, Christianity...
Nobody is allowed to talk about Adolf Hitler, Because he is just a accuser with no defending... No one knows the main idea, and just fuck him and say that he wanted to collect the world for himself (USA is doing the same project today and no one say anything)
I am agree with the topic opener, Christianity today is like a baby puppet who anyone can play with that.
In Islam, when Salman Rushie wrote "Satanic Verses" which were against Islam, he became a wanted. and today if he walk in a Muslim country he can be killed with no problem for the terrorist.
In Judaism, when someone talk about Nazi ideas he is a accuser, whether he is right or wrong. But there is propaganda against Nazism... everywhere on google, youtube and all other websites everyone can fuck Hitler, make fun with him... in all movies supported by jews, Nazi German is shit and Nazi soldiers were traitor, stupid and animal. while study the true history, Nazi soldiers were talented and they just were fighting under the flag of their lands... why nobody read Mein Kampf? to understand who Hitler was, that today any jewish kid can fuck him.
But there is so many anti-Christan bands who are acting, and they are living in peace and nobody don't have problem with them... Deicide and Marilyn Manson and Ozzy Osbourne are so popular, and the US is using them to entertain young people and not to think about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Ramstein, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, where US raped them with no mercy...
This is Christians Goverment problem... they prefer to destroy their religion and don't lose their power and policial benefits...
cheers. hope to don't count me a Nazi

the most hateful word that ive ever heard about is Religioun, which in my opinion the worst of them are
Islam And Jewry . and in my opinion muhammad mixed his thoughts abd jewry to make islam and for me Islam is subversion of jewry, cause when muhammad was living in saudi arabia there were a lot of jews there.for example Pig's meat is tabu in both religiouns or circumcise too.

I think most christians don't really make a problem when they are bashed, for they think that God is powerful enough to defend Himself. But I think many christians pray for those that bash their God (my God).

Written by [user id=30512] on 22.04.2008 at 16:08

I think most christians don't really make a problem when they are bashed, for they think that God is powerful enough to defend Himself. But I think many christians pray for those that bash their God (my God).

I don't know dude, most of the religious people I know ( including christians ) get incredibly defensive and close minded when someone questions their faith. Like scrutiny on their beliefs is a personal affront, I find it very annoying actually. Depends what you consider a problem, this is something I definitely see as one.... In general, its hard to find a middle ground with someone who is completely and utterly stubborn about their beliefs.

Written by Sunioj on 22.04.2008 at 18:17

Written by [user id=30512] on 22.04.2008 at 16:08

I think most christians don't really make a problem when they are bashed, for they think that God is powerful enough to defend Himself. But I think many christians pray for those that bash their God (my God).

I don't know dude, most of the religious people I know ( including christians ) get incredibly defensive and close minded when someone questions their faith. Like scrutiny on their beliefs is a personal affront, I find it very annoying actually. Depends what you consider a problem, this is something I definitely see as one.... In general, its hard to find a middle ground with someone who is completely and utterly stubborn about their beliefs.

With bashing I didn't mean that the faith is questioned but that someone attacks the faith without any rationality and just angry. I know that we as christians are defensive when the faith is questioned, but in the occasion that someone really attacks the faith I think it isn't really considderd being a treat.

Written by [user id=30512] on 23.04.2008 at 10:30

Written by Sunioj on 22.04.2008 at 18:17

Written by [user id=30512] on 22.04.2008 at 16:08

I think most christians don't really make a problem when they are bashed, for they think that God is powerful enough to defend Himself. But I think many christians pray for those that bash their God (my God).

I don't know dude, most of the religious people I know ( including christians ) get incredibly defensive and close minded when someone questions their faith. Like scrutiny on their beliefs is a personal affront, I find it very annoying actually. Depends what you consider a problem, this is something I definitely see as one.... In general, its hard to find a middle ground with someone who is completely and utterly stubborn about their beliefs.

With bashing I didn't mean that the faith is questioned but that someone attacks the faith without any rationality and just angry. I know that we as christians are defensive when the faith is questioned, but in the occasion that someone really attacks the faith I think it isn't really considderd being a treat.

Oh of course, I guess I understood you a bit differently... you probably place 'bash' in a more extreme context, I'm just used to people calling scrutiny towards their religion as potential 'bashing' oh well. Cheers.

@Hamird - I read Mein Kampf, but that does not have much to do with this topic, I never ever mentioned Hitler or NSDAP or anything like that, Hitler was not a Christian, he was Aryanist, he believe in eternal Thule and Atlantis and such esoteric things, which I find for fairytales, more interesting than stories of Abraham or Jesus, and especially that rock collector Mohamed, but still just a fairytale. I do not call you a "nazi", in your words, I refer NS, but I did not want to start a Hitler discussion although, if someone start such thread, I'd be glad to participate, this thread was supposed to be less casual haha.

Serbs are hard core Orthodox, and damn, I don't give a crap, I'll speak whatever I want and think that is correct and they can be insulted as much as they want, if thats the best defense they have, it means I am saying something right, same works with Muslims, Judaists or anyone else, and don't give a crap for things that's cause they are more or less offensive, truth don't give a fuck if lyiars will find it offensive, if I am them, I'd prefer my defense better than you blasphemous daemon should be hanged for spreading lies against our religion :

Written by APOHAKC on 02.05.2008 at 14:32

Hitler was not a Christian, he was Aryanist

False. He was a member of the Catholic church and remained so until his death.

No, he was not, is that why all Bibles in Catholic churches were replaced by Mein Kampf? Hitler a Christian, haha. Even though he may be a member, is that enough to call yourself a believer and practicer of the Christian values? Is that why SS order was created, to warship Jesus Christ? I suppose Liebenfels, Rosenberg and Himler were Christian priests..

Why don't you read this, he wrote it himself:

Hitler's Religion Believes

Quotations from Mein Kampf

Volume 1, Chapter 1, In the House of My Parents

Their sword will become our plow, and from the tears of war the daily bread of future generations will grow.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Note: "Their sword will become our plow" appears to paraphrase Micah 4:3 about beating swords into ploughshares, but his tears of war more resembles Joel 3:9-10 "Beat your plowshares into swords."

I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Only a handful of Germans in the Reich had the slightest conception of the eternal and merciless struggle for the German language, German schools, and a German way of life. Only today, when the same deplorable misery is forced on many millions of Germans from the Reich, who under foreign rule dream of their common fatherland and strive, amid their longing, at least to preserve their holy right to their mother tongue, do wider circles understand what it means to be forced to fight for one's nationality.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 2, Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna


Fate must bring retribution, unless men conciliate Fate while there is still time. How thankful I am today to the Providence which sent me to that school!
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Thus my faith grew that my beautiful dream for the future would become reality after all, even though this might require long years.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The more the linguistic Babel corroded and disorganized parliament, the closer drew the inevitable hour of the disintegration of this Babylonian Empire, and with it the hour of freedom for my German-Austrian people.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions.... For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought.
At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Note: Karl Lueger (1844-1910) belonged as a member of the anti-Semitic Christian Social Party, he became mayor of Vienna and kept his post until his death.)

The man and the movement seemed 'reactionary' in my eyes. My common sense of justice, however, forced me to change this judgment in proportion as I had occasion to become acquainted with the man and his work; and slowly my fair judgment turned to unconcealed admiration. Today, more than ever, I regard this man as the greatest German mayor of all times.
-Adolf Hitler speaking about Dr. Karl Lueger of the Christian Social Party (Mein Kampf)

How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement!
My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 3 General Political Considerations Based on My Vienna Period


A man does not die for something which he himself does not believe in.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Just as a man's denominational orientation is the result of upbringing, and only the religious need as such slumbers in his soul, the political opinion of the masses represents nothing but the final result of an incredibly tenacious and thorough manipulation of their mind and soul.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election.
-Adolf Hitler with his twist on Mark 10:25 (Mein Kampf)

Thank the Lord, Germanic democracy means just this: that any old climber or moral slacker cannot rise by devious paths to govern his national comrades, but that, by the very greatness of the responsibility to be assumed, incompetents and weaklings are frightened of.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

For by employing religious force in the service of its political considerations, the crown aroused a spirit which at that outset it had not considered possible.
-Adolf Hitler on the state of Rome (Mein Kampf)

For when a people is not willing or able to fight for its existence-- Providence in its eternal justice has decreed that people's end.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party... was to assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Even less could I understand how the Christian Social Party at this same period could achieve such immense power. At that time it had just reached the apogee of its glory.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

But the power which has always started the greatest religious and political avalanches in history rolling has from time to immemorial been the magic of power of the spoken word, and that alone.
Particularly the broad masses of the people can be moved only by the power of speech.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The hard struggle which the Pan-Germans fought with the Catholic Church can be accounted for only by their insufficient understanding of the spiritual nature of the people.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The root of the whole evil lay, particularly in Schonerer's opinion, in the fact that the directing body of the Catholic Church was not in Germany, and that for this very reason alone it was hostile to the interests of our nationality.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germans as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being; but it combats with the greatest hostility any attempt to rescue the nation from the embrace of its most mortal enemy, since its attitude toward the Jews just happens to be more or less dogmatically established.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.
-Adolf Hitler speaking like Jesus in Matthew 6:24 (Mein Kampf)

Heaven will smile on us again.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and well-planned.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked among the great minds of our people.
-Adolf Hitler speaking about the leader of the Christian Social movement (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 4, Munich

But the people on top made a cult of the 'ally,' as if it were the Golden Calf.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(The Golden calf occurs in Exodus 32:1-4)

Mankind has grown great in eternal struggle, and only in eternal peace does it perish.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

We must, therefore, coolly and objectively adopt the standpoint that it can certainly not be the intention of Heaven to give one people fifty times as much land and soil in this world as another.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

...a man does not die for business, but for ideals.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 5, The World War


Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Indeed, nearly all attempts to exterminate a doctrine and its organizational expression, by force without spiritual foundation, are doomed to failure, and not seldom end with the exact opposite of the desired result...
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 6, War Propaganda


I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only the Christian-Social movement, especially in Lueger's time achieved a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its success.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Certainly we don't have to discuss these matters with the Jews, the most modern inventors of this cultural perfume. Their whole existence is an embodied protest against the aesthetics of the Lord's image.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Volume 1, Chapter 7, The Revolution


More than once I was tormented by the thought that if Providence had put me in the place of the incapable of criminal incompetents or scoundrels in our propaganda service, our battle with Destiny would have taken a different turn.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.
-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)

...we must pray to the Almighty not to refuse His blessing to this change and not to abandon our people in the times to come.
-Hitler recalling a priest's speech after the defeat of WWI (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 8, The Beginning of My Political Activity


As soon as the theoretician attempts to take account of so-called 'utility' and 'reality' instead of absolute truth, his work will cease to be a polar star of seeking humanity and instead will become a prescription for everyday life.
-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)

The thinking of the one, therefore, will be determined by eternal truth, the actions of the other more by the practical reality of the moment. The greatness of the one lies in the absolute abstract soundness of his idea...
-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)

The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be, the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it continues to depend on human beings...
If this were not so, the founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of this earth... In its workings, even the religion of love is only the weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance, however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

For the greater a man's works for the future, the less the present can comprehend them; the harder his fight, and the rarer success. If, however, once in centuries success does come to a man, perhaps in his latter days a faint beam of his coming glory may shine upon him. To be sure, these great men are only the Marathon runners of history; the laurel wreath of the present touches only the brow of the dying hero.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(The metaphors of marathon runners, and the wreath (crown) of the present to achieve works for the future parallels the thought in 1 Corinthians 9:24-27: "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that you may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.")

To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin Luther as well as Richard Wagner.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 10, Causes of the Collapse


Consequently, the value and importance of the monarchic idea cannot reside in the person of the monarch himself except if Heaven decides to lay the crown on the brow of the heroic genius like Frederick the Great or a wise character like William I.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Hastily and indifferently, people tried to pass by the unpleasant truths, as though by such an attitude events could be undone. No, the fact that our big city population is growing more and more prostituted in its love life cannot just be denied out of existence; it simply is so.
...it is said with such terrible justice that the sins of the fathers are avenged down to the tenth generation. But this applies only to profanation of the blood and the race.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Avenged to the tenth generation appears in Deuteronomy 23:2-3)

Blood sin and desecration of the race are the original sin in this world and the end of a humanity which surrenders to it.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

How truly wretched was the attitude of pre-War Germany on this one very question! What was done to check the contamination of our youth in big cities? What was done to attack the infection and mammonization of our love life? What was done to combat the resulting syphilization of our people?
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Mammonization refers to the New Testament word "mammon" [Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:9,11,13] which alludes to riches, avarice, and worldly gain personified as a false god)

The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution, against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles.
The first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the 'image' of God.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(See Genesis 1:27 for man created in God's image.)

Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth...
Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.
-Adolf Hitler sounding like the Moral Majority (Mein Kampf)

But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The works of Mortiz von Schwind, or of a Bo:cklin, were also an inner experience, but of artists graced by God and not of clowns.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

How widespread the general disunity was growing is shown by an examination of religious conditions before the War. Here, too, a unified and effective philosophical conviction had long since been lost in large sections of the nation. In this the members officially breaking away from the churches play a less important role than those who are completely indifferent.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in order to win new followers for their doctrine-- an activity which can boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the Mohammedan faith in particular-- right here in Europe they lose millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all religious life or simply so their own ways. The consequences, particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Also noteworthy is the increasingly violent struggle against the dogmatic foundations of the various churches without which in this human world the practical existence of a religious faith is not conceivable.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely for the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moral attitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful from the standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a useful replacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrine and faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditional authority of the content of this faith is the foundation of all efficacy.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The attack against dogmas as such, therefore, strongly resembles the struggle against the general legal foundations of a state, and , as the latter would end in a total anarchy of the state, the former would end in a worthless religious nihilism.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Worst of all, however, is the devastation wrought by the misuse of religious conviction for political ends. In truth, we cannot sharply enough attack those wretched crooks who would like to make religion an implement to perform political or rather business services for them.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 1, Chapter 11, Nation and Race


The result of all racial crossing is therefore in brief always the following:
(a) Lowering of the level of the higher race;
(b) Physical and intellectual regression and hence the beginning of a slowly but surely progressing sickness.
To bring about such a development is, then, nothing else but to sin against the will of the eternal creator. And as a sin this act is rewarded.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Here, of course, we encounter the objection of the modern pacifist, as truly Jewish in its effrontery as it is stupid! 'Man's role is to overcome Nature!'
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Man's dominion over earth appears in Genesis 1:26)

...the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(See Genesis Chapter 3)

...that is why the prophet seldom has any honor in his own country.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
("For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country." John 4:44)

The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess a religious institution, if for no other reason because he lacks idealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutely foreign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form. Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter, but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Great founder here, of course, refers to Jesus. The "whip to drive from the temple" comes from John 2:15, "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple..." Interestingly, Hitler often carried a whip with him. There's at least one photograph with him posing with a whip in hand in Werner Maser's "Hitler's Letters and Notes.")

At times of the bitterest distress, fury against him finally breaks out, and the plundered and ruined masses begin to defend themselves against the scourge of God.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(For one example of God's fury and anger, see Isaiah 63)

This game is repeated again and again, and in it the role of the so-called 'German princes' is just as miserable as that of the Jews themselves. These lords were really God's punishment for their beloved peoples and find their parallels only in the various ministers of the present time.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

They [German princes] made a pact with the devil and landed in hell.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

If we consider how greatly he has sinned against the masses in the course of the centuries, how he has squeezed and sucked the blood again and again; if furthermore, we consider how the people gradually learned to hate him for this, and ended up by regarding his existence as nothing but punishment of Heaven for the other peoples, we can understand how hard this shift must be for the Jew.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

First, therefore, he goes about making up to the people for his previous sins against them. He begins his career as the 'benefactor' of mankind. Since his new benevolence has a practical foundation, that the left hand should not know what the right hand giveth; no, whether he likes it or not, he must reconcile himself to letting as many people as possible know how deeply he feels the sufferings of the masses and all the sacrifices that he himself is making to combat them.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(The left/right hand paraphrase derives from Matthew 6:3)

But even more: all at once the Jew also becomes liberal and begins to rave about the necessary progress of mankind.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The Jew almost never marries a Christian woman; it is the Christian who marries a Jewess.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)

With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Peoples which bastardize themselves, or let themselves be bastardized, sin against the will of eternal Providence...
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Providence did not bestow her reward on the victorious sword, but followed the law of eternal retribution.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Eternal retribution comes from Christian doctrinal thought as referring to eternal hell when one who physically dies in his sins without Christ. Christians to this day take Hell or the "Lake of Fire" (Rev. 19:20) as real and literal.)


Volume 1, Chapter 12 The First Period of Development of the Nationalist Social German Worker's Party


Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and the impetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all times consisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses than in a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria which drove them forward.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The future of a movement is conditioned by the fanaticism, yes, the intolerance, with which its adherents uphold it as the sole correct movement, and push it past other formations of a similar sort.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

...absolute intolerance also provides long growth.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which, fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its will against all others.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

No more than a famous master can be replaced and another take over the completion of the half-finished painting he has left behind can the great poet and thinker, the great statesman and the great soldier, be replaced. For their activity lies always in the province of art. It is not mechanically trained but inborn by God's grace.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a single struggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of the young movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which can move mountains.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Faith can remove mountains appears in 1 Corinth. 13:2)

The characteristic thing about these people is that they rave about old Germanic heroism, about dim prehistory, stone axes, spear and shield, but in reality are the greatest cowards that can be imagined. For the same people who brandish scholarly imitations of old German tin swords, and wear a dressed bearskin with bull's horns over their heads, preach for the present nothing but struggle with spiritual weapons, and run away as fast as they can from every Communist blackjack.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(The above statement refutes the common impression that Hitler admired ancient Nordic customs.)

A man who knows a thing, who is aware of a given danger, and sees the possibility of a remedy with his own eyes, has the duty and obligation, by God, not to work 'silently,' but to stand up before the whole public against the evil and for its cure.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 1, Philosophy and Party


Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 'remaking' of the Reich as they call it.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious-dogmatic principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Of course, even the general designation 'religious' includes various basic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of the soul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being, etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may be for the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of this individual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation until emotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force of apodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makes a breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religious views.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Volume 2, Chapter 2, The State


We, as Aryans, can conceive of the state only as the living organism of a nationality which not only assures the preservation of its nationality, but by the development of its spiritual and ideal abilities leads it to the highest freedom.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

the task of preserving and advancing the highest humanity, given to this earth by the benevolence of the Almighty, seems a truly high mission.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

World history is made by minorities when this minority of number embodies the majority of will and determination.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

There is only one holiest human right, and this right is at the same time the holiest obligation, to wit: to see to it that the blood is preserved pure and, by preserving the best humanity, to create the possibility of a nobler development of these beings.
A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Hitler's concept of holy blood comes right out of the Bible. The Bronze-Age Bible authors thought that the spirit of life consisted of blood. (See Leviticus 17:11, 14). In the New Testament, God made of one blood all nations of men..." (See Acts 17:24-26). The Biblical Paul saw himself as "pure from the blood of all men." (Acts 20:26). Hitler here sees blood (life) preservation as a holy right to produce images of the Lord. This clearly forms a religious justification for racial purity and contradicts any notion of Darwinism.)

It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy, obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.
Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction is replaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant and continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty Creator beings such as He Himself created?
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
("Beings such as He Himself created," shows that Hitler believed in creationism.)

A sharp difference should exist between general education and specialized knowledge. As particularly today the latter threatens more and more to sink into the service of pure Mammon, general education, at least in its more ideal attitude, must be retained as a counterweight.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Mammon, a New Testament word [Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:9,11,13] refers to riches, avarice, and worldly gain personified as a false god. Hitler uses "mammon" or "mammonization" four times in Mein Kampf.)

For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not have been thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes, hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law and order.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 5, Philosophy and Organization


Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant changes in its outward structure?
...Here, too, we can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas... it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body the character of a faith.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 7, The Struggle with the Red Front


I must frankly admit that... I should probably lose all interest in life and would rather not be a German at all. But since, thank the Lord, this cannot be done, we have no need to be surprised that the health, unspoiled people avoid 'bourgeois mass meetings' as the devil holy water.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

This, it may be that centuries, dissatisfied with the form of their religious life, yearn for a renewal, and that from this psychic urge dozens and more men arise who on the basis of their insight and their knowledge believe themselves as prophets of a new doctrine, or at least as warriors against an existing one.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The main fighter for the DSP [Deutsch-Sozialistische Partei or German Socialist Party], as I have said, was Julius Streicher, then a teacher in Nuremberg. At first he, too, had a holy conviction of the mission and the future of his movement.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Great, truly world-shaking revolutions of a spiritual nature are not even conceivable and realizable except as the titanic struggles of individual formations, never as enterprises of coalitions.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 10, Federalism as a Mask


The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated.
For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(Here again Hitler shows his belief in a creationist model of human's origin.)

In the ranks of the movement [National Socialist movement], the most devout Protestant could sit beside the most devout Catholic, without coming into the slightest conflict with his religious convictions. The mighty common struggle which both carried on against the destroyer of Aryan humanity had, on the contrary, taught them mutually to respect and esteem one another.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 13, German Alliance Policy After the War


... the world has no reason for fighting in our defense, and as a matter of principle God does not make cowardly nations free...
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

If the German nation wants to end a state of affairs that threatens its extermination in Europe, it must not fall into the error of the pre-War period and make enemies of God and the world; it must recognize the most dangerous enemy and strike at him with all its concentrated power. And if this victory is obtained through sacrifices elsewhere, the coming generations of our people will not condemn us.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: 'Lord, make us free!' is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: 'Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!'
-Adolf Hitler's prayer (Mein Kampf)


Volume 2, Chapter 14, Eastern Orientation or Eastern Policy


...we National Socialists must hold unflinchingly to our aim in foreign policy, namely to secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitles on this earth. And this action is the only one which, before God and or German posterity, would make any sacrifice of blood seem justified: before God, since we have been put on this earth with the mission of eternal struggle for our daily bread...
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

And so he [the Jew] advances on his fatal road until another force comes forth to oppose him, and in a mighty struggle hurls the heaven-stormer back to Lucifer.
Germany is today the next great war aim of Bolshevism. It requires all the force of a young missionary idea to raise our people up again, to free them from the snares of this international serpent...
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

The fight against Jewish world Bolshevization requires a clear attitude toward Soviet Russia. You cannot drive out the Devil with Beelzebub.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(devils through Beelzebub comes from Luke 11:15-19)

Never forget that the most sacred right on this earth is a man's right to have earth to till with his own hands, and the most sacred sacrifice the blood that a man sheds for this earth.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
(till the ground: see Genesis 3:23)


Volume 2, Chapter 15, The Right of Emergency Defense


Viewing all this from a higher vantage-point, we can speak of one single piece of good fortune in all this misery, which is that, though men can be befuddled, the heavens cannot be bribed.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

But in the great hour Heaven sent the German people a great man, Herr von Cuno.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Aronax just covered a rule from the "101 rules of being a Metalstormer".

To answer to the first post. I think the "attack" should be pointed at EVERY hateful religion. Think about Ibn Warraq, and his books against Islam, or Christopher Hitchens, who doesn't spare anything in his last work.

I think this quotes are straight evolutionism with a religious sauce:
the task of preserving and advancing the highest humanity, given to this earth by the benevolence of the Almighty, seems a truly high mission.

There is only one holiest human right, and this right is at the same time the holiest obligation, to wit: to see to it that the blood is preserved pure and, by preserving the best humanity, to create the possibility of a nobler development of these beings.
A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.

It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions.
The main ideas quoted here is that hitler thought that the Aryans where a more developped race (more in the image of God) while the Jews where halfway being an ape. The idea of humans developped from apes comes straight out of evolutionism. So, when it comes to double standards, it is a very strange mix of evolution and religion, which doesn't fit any of them. How is it possible that both christians as scientists walked after him?!...

Written by APOHAKC on 08.04.2008 at 15:49

Examples in music, Ukrainian band Nokturnal Mortum had both anti-judaistic and anti-Christian lyrics, no one ever question anti-Christian part cause that's ok, but everyone bitch about anti-judaism?! What's with that?

antichristian beliefs are based on christian beliefs i.e, antichristianity or anti-any other religion or philosophy is based on ideas and beliefs but things like antijudaism are based on the birth of a person... a person can be 'bashed' because of his beliefs but bashing him for his race i.e. his birth is not considered rational by the general people.
same applies everywhere. in the example you have presented, the band criticizes christianity for what is taught by the bible, or for what christians believe, and people don't have problem with this becuase people have their own philosophy and opinions, but when the band writes against a race, many people are unable to digest it because they think that it is the attitude and state of mind of a person that can make him superior or inferior and not his race i.e. physical structure/

Judaism is not a race, what are you talking about?

Written by APOHAKC on 17.06.2008 at 15:36

Judaism is not a race, what are you talking about?

In the case of Nokutranl Mortem their anti-Judaism stuff is based on the race and not the religion. They use the religion to bash the race

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.06.2008 at 15:53

Written by APOHAKC on 17.06.2008 at 15:36

Judaism is not a race, what are you talking about?

In the case of Nokutranl Mortem their anti-Judaism stuff is based on the race and not the religion. They use the religion to bash the race

Hitler mentioned that Aryan race is all of White-skin races but Jews. in this situation religion becomes a race.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.06.2008 at 15:53

Written by APOHAKC on 17.06.2008 at 15:36

Judaism is not a race, what are you talking about?

In the case of Nokutranl Mortem their anti-Judaism stuff is based on the race and not the religion. They use the religion to bash the race

I was not talk about Nokturnal Mortum and beside that, that doesn't chang ea fact, THERE IS NO JUDAIC RACE!

...and after all, if there is, what kind of race is that than??

Written by APOHAKC on 19.06.2008 at 12:34

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.06.2008 at 15:53

Written by APOHAKC on 17.06.2008 at 15:36

Judaism is not a race, what are you talking about?

In the case of Nokutranl Mortem their anti-Judaism stuff is based on the race and not the religion. They use the religion to bash the race

I was not talk about Nokturnal Mortum and beside that, that doesn't chang ea fact, THERE IS NO JUDAIC RACE!

...and after all, if there is, what kind of race is that than??

the Judaic people are the Jewish people but not all Jewish people believe in the jewish faith. The Jewish people are part of the Semitic race just like the Arabs.

Exactly, they are Semites, that is their race, Judaism is not their race, Judaism is NOT a race, because, if they are, than Arabs would be Judaic race what is ridiculous. So, if you insult judaism you are not racist and I am sick of people saying that, and ok, let's forget that, why is it not wrong to insult Christians then? No one calls people that insult Christians racists. No one should though, since it has nothing to do with racial hatred, same as hatred towards Judaism.

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not all Jewish people believe in the jewish faith

Yes, but I never said that they do, I was talking about judaism and not jews, there are non-Semitic jews anyway, from the mixed marriages. But still, you can't accuse someone for racial hatred for insulting Judaism. Religious yes, racial not, but religious hatred is nothing unusual here.

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Hitler mentioned that Aryan race is all of White-skin races but Jews. in this situation religion becomes a race.

We're not discussing Hitler, but you're wrong anyway, Hitler's vision of Aryan has nothing to do with White Caucasian race as we know today, source of his Arianism is on Nepal and India, and creating the God-Man was his fantasy, or Himmler's and Rosenberg's, who can know that anyway. Nordic people as he called higher one is not part of some new race but a sub-type of the ancient ones. Something like that would look his God-men or whatever,

the jews themselves don't even know anymore what judaism is.

But everybody knows what jews are...

except when we want to define judaism, then it's very difficult

Okay, please get back to topic people.. everybody should go back to read the first post and concentrate on it.. if there's some little detail you want to concentrate you should check out either there is a thread for it already and if not just create one

Written by Warman on 29.05.2008 at 13:22

Aronax just covered a rule from the "101 rules of being a Metalstormer".

which ones?

Written by APOHAKC on 22.06.2008 at 22:40

Written by Warman on 29.05.2008 at 13:22

Aronax just covered a rule from the "101 rules of being a Metalstormer".

which ones?

The one about that posts in the "Serious Discussions" forum should be in the length of a short novel.