Just like feanor88 said there's a rift a la Ensiferum , that's the only rift Metallica has made that could catch my interest. I have never been a fan of Metallica, and will never be. I don't like this style of metal and that's it. But I could say, taht de song is better than St-Anger, well the last two minutes...

Written by Mindheist on 22.08.2008 at 18:27

...look at Megadeth's United Abominations which i'm planning to review, mediocre, yes, good, no (this what you should've said from first) yet they didn't trash it as they did to St Anger.

I agree with you on UA, mediocre, yes, good, no.
Of course it wasn't trashed as much as St. Anger, cause in general the songwriting was better than on St. Anger, plus UA sounded infinitely better. Not tin drums, etc.

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I've a question for you my friend Can Dave Mustaine or Tom Araya sing like James Hetfield? James is a chameleon, he always brings something new to the table (vocally speaking), something that neither Tom or Dave could do.

No they can't but that's got nothing to do with something being a good song or not, unless vocals are the most important part for you. IMO vocals are just another instrument to convey a feeling and should complement the music. And as such Mustaine's and Araya's vocals fit the music, just as James' vocals fit Metallica's.
But why do you bring up Slayer and Megadeth when we are talking about the new Metallica album? These bands have nothing to do whatsoever with Death Magnetic.
You really do have a hang-up concerning Slayer & Megadeth, don't you?

The song should start around the 5minutes! This isn't a bad song but I was expecting something else... Still it's better than the whole St. Anger album.

Load and Reload are great albums but in their own genre,the production of the drums on St.Anger sucks big time and it is again in a different genre and compared to the two previous albums it's a mediocre one, this is ment to all those who think that I (and most other people) simply speak bad about metallica because most people do. I never liked the last three albums but that's my subjective opinion; I spoke bad about this song because it will be forgotten in a couple months(on the mind that it is a song of metallica), and if they choose to release this song and cocaine(worse than this one) as the representatives for this album I can only wonder about the quality of the other songs

Written by stygian on 22.08.2008 at 19:49

well i have to say they didnt dissapoint me with st. anger, it was a surprise, but not really a dissapointment, i do like that album, different, but still....
im not really a fan anymore, or at least not as much as i used to be, but still i dare to say that Metallica has never made a bad song, imo... before everyone start to call me names and start telling how wrong i am, thats just my own oppinion. so you dont have to agree with me and dont talk me out of it ok?
i would just wish that everyone stops making comparissons to the other albums theyve done and just listen to the music, instead of to the past

Good to see someone who at least respect my opinion. And St. Anger never let me down because I got into Metallica when I was like 12 years old and soon thereafter they released it. So I never really had the chance to expect something from it, maybe that's why I like it?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.08.2008 at 20:54

But why do you bring up Slayer and Megadeth when we are talking about the new Metallica album? These bands have nothing to do whatsoever with Death Magnetic.
You really do have a hang-up concerning Slayer & Megadeth, don't you?

I suppose you do remember your own statement which is "If any other band would have released those two songs you wouldn't have said they were good". It should be like this "If Slayer or Megadeth would have released those two songs everybody would have said they were damn good". The problem with Megadeth and Slayer is that no matter what they produce, the fans (or should I say the hypocrites) will love it, they can bring us one of Britney Spears songs as a bonus track and we will eventually love it, why? Simply because they are Megadeth and Slayer. Back to our topic, in case you haven't noticed it yet, "The Day That Never Comes" is a combination between Orion, To Live Is To Die and Sanatarium, and I think you agree with me all of these three songs are incredibly great.

Nope, if Megadeth & Slayer had released these songs (the ones Metallica did) everyone would have said how mediocre they were. But the problem here is that no matter how mediocre a song is by Metallica loads of people will still say how brilliant they are (just see the comments in this thread). My God how else is it possible that And Justice & Metallica & Load & Reload got such raving reviews (yes, those albums are mediocre)?
And with your last sentenc you summed up the biggest problem of The Day That Never Comes... Like you said it is a combination of OLD Metallica songs. So they just a rip off their own material which they copy pasted. And that is always a bad sign.
You are simply a case of a Metallica fanboy blinded by his hatred for anything Slayer & Megadeth.

Btw, NO I don't think To Live Is To Die is great. There are ONLY three great songs on And Justice and that is not one of them. And Orion is decent but nothing spectacular (Call of Ktulu is far superior) Sanatarium however is a great song (but not used in The Day That Never Comes)

Written by Warman on 22.08.2008 at 22:05

Good to see someone who at least respect my opinion. And St. Anger never let me down because I got into Metallica when I was like 12 years old and soon thereafter they released it. So I never really had the chance to expect something from it, maybe that's why I like it?

Well happenssomethign similar here. When i listened to St. Anger I was pretty much into Nu. But I liek Metallica from some years before and had heard all their albums. So since I was in a very "Nu stage" it was like well.... It kinda bland with the other Nu stuff I listened. (I still listen to soem of it, actually)

hmm in my point of view, Jaymz doesn't sing really good, like ever, but for the track, THE DAY THAT NEVER COMES it's good, with solo and for CYANIDE heard like Justice!! Finally it's better than St Anger ( Sucks )!!

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.08.2008 at 22:47

Nope, if Megadeth & Slayer had released these songs (the ones Metallica did) everyone would have said how mediocre they were. But the problem here is that no matter how mediocre a song is by Metallica loads of people will still say how brilliant they are (just see the comments in this thread). My God how else is it possible that And Justice & Metallica & Load & Reload got such raving reviews (yes, those albums are mediocre)?
And with your last sentenc you summed up the biggest problem of The Day That Never Comes... Like you said it is a combination of OLD Metallica songs. So they just a rip off their own material which they copy pasted. And that is always a bad sign.
You are simply a case of a Metallica fanboy blinded by his hatred for anything Slayer & Megadeth.

Btw, NO I don't think To Live Is To Die is great. There are ONLY three great songs on And Justice and that is not one of them. And Orion is decent but nothing spectacular (Call of Ktulu is far superior) Sanatarium however is a great song (but not used in The Day That Never Comes)

i dont know about the rest of you guys, but for you those albums (ajfo metallica load and reload) might be mediocre, i just love all of them, and that not (only) because it was metallica releasing them, before i heard load, i hadnt ever heard metallica stuff before, and i instantly loved the album... and justice is my favorite Metallica album... so you think they are mediocre albums, and to you that may be, but for someone else its verry different.. its about our indiviual musical TASTE here...

i mean, esspecially load and reload, are a different kind of music, but that doesnt mean that if they are released by a band who happen to have released some real metal albums, they suddenly dont have any chance of being good albums, i have the idea that many paople just dont like the style change of Metallica, i love it, far better than slayer who have been making the same album over and over again (not to say that i dislike slayer but still...)

Not bad at all, I'll be listening to that more later.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.08.2008 at 22:47

Nope, if Megadeth & Slayer had released these songs (the ones Metallica did) everyone would have said how mediocre they were. But the problem here is that no matter how mediocre a song is by Metallica loads of people will still say how brilliant they are (just see the comments in this thread). My God how else is it possible that And Justice & Metallica & Load & Reload got such raving reviews (yes, those albums are mediocre)?
And with your last sentenc you summed up the biggest problem of The Day That Never Comes... Like you said it is a combination of OLD Metallica songs. So they just a rip off their own material which they copy pasted. And that is always a bad sign.
You are simply a case of a Metallica fanboy blinded by his hatred for anything Slayer & Megadeth.

Btw, NO I don't think To Live Is To Die is great. There are ONLY three great songs on And Justice and that is not one of them. And Orion is decent but nothing spectacular (Call of Ktulu is far superior) Sanatarium however is a great song (but not used in The Day That Never Comes)

I think the whole problem is people like you telling us how we should percieve the music that we listen to. Don't tell me that Justice is a bad record, if you don't like if, fine, but don't state it as a fact! I just get pissed when people like you say "okay, fanboys, here's how it is, this and that Metallica song is crap, face it, the only made good songs up till Lightning. That's a fact" I'm sick of it! Say what you like, but don't pass judgement on others just because they like something different than you.

Bands have certain styles, Metallica tried to get back to their 80's style because people were bitching. Now they made the try, and now people are bitching about how much it resembles the old stuff.
I like bits and pieces of the new song, but overall I think it was a bit mediocre and not a song that I would have chosen as the lead single.

Written by DrunkenFuck on 23.08.2008 at 15:04



Bands have certain styles, Metallica tried to get back to their 80's style because people were bitching. Now they made the try, and now people are bitching about how much it resembles the old stuff.
I like bits and pieces of the new song, but overall I think it was a bit mediocre and not a song that I would have chosen as the lead single.

But they AREN'T going back with most of the new music to their 80s style Cyanide is pure Load Reload style and only some slight parts in The Day That Never Comes is 80s style, but then only the slow stuff.

I don't mind them not going back to their old style, but then they (METALLICA) should stop saying that their latest album is going back to their roots.

here we go again ...

I found the song very boring ... and Lars drumming was horrible. The only thing I'd say is at least Kirk Hammet is back not Metallica.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.08.2008 at 15:57

Written by DrunkenFuck on 23.08.2008 at 15:04



Bands have certain styles, Metallica tried to get back to their 80's style because people were bitching. Now they made the try, and now people are bitching about how much it resembles the old stuff.
I like bits and pieces of the new song, but overall I think it was a bit mediocre and not a song that I would have chosen as the lead single.

But they AREN'T going back with most of the new music to their 80s style Cyanide is pure Load Reload style and only some slight parts in The Day That Never Comes is 80s style, but then only the slow stuff.

I don't mind them not going back to their old style, but then they (METALLICA) should stop saying that their latest album is going back to their roots.

We all know they'll never go back to that, no matter what they say. at least I dont' believe it. If opthe fans believe it, it's nto my bussines. I like 'em and that's all.

iced angel said it best.

all in all this is a better st. anger so far, a much much better one. very close to load/reload ...

damn if we see the day were metallica go back to thrashing about instead of paining about ...

You either love or hate Metallica thats it! James' vocals sounds even better than before and the live peformance they did in Bergen Norway was epic. I loved this song, it showed so much variety in just one song so that just shows how Metallica still got it. So i think the new album will be great!

Before hearing the new songs I had no expectations about the new album but the songs are pretty good, not a masterpiece, but OK. Finally Hammet appeared, there are some guitar solos, good melodies, great vocals.
A fantastic return for the band!! I'll buy the album.

Written by Fitness2k on 24.08.2008 at 15:48

You either love or hate Metallica thats it! James' vocals sounds even better than before and the live peformance they did in Bergen Norway was epic. I loved this song, it showed so much variety in just one song so that just shows how Metallica still got it. So i think the new album will be great!

lol

Keep thinking that way forever
you either did not hear their classical era or you haven't heard other Metal bands music ... variety ?? dude timings on this song are at a very unprofessional level. Like at the end of the song they tried to fill the song with gallop riffs like "One" followed by harmony guitar, but they sucked!! they don't fit at all

My favourite of this three songs is Cyanide but I think The Unforgiven III will be the best song.

Yeah yeah We all have our different oppinion I've heard everything Metallica's ever made and my fave albums are still the 4 first ones, no doubt. And i have seen the greates metal band's who walkes this earth so i know my music knowledge Yeah i admitte my previous comment was quite "blue eyed" But they will ever be the same after the night Cliff Burton died... but the new album will be their best in years...

This song was very good to be honest.
I believe that allmost every guy that talk shit about this song is just because he hates the last albums so deeply that it's already a disease.

If this song was from another band... it would have a good rating.

Like I said... this son is very good.. But far from being exellent. I've understood [and probably never will] the whole hype about Metallica. I do understand their huge influence in metal. But I just never get the "wooooooooooooooooooooooo" feeling that many people get...

Not my stuff I guess.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 25.08.2008 at 18:57



If this song was from another band... it would have a good rating.

No it wouldn't. I am sure it would be rated a lot lower than it is now.

This song has some of the worst drumming I've ever heard. Those snare fills are simply atrocious. Riffs are weak, James can't sing, and the solo is mediocre at best.

At least this is not nu 'metal' like St. Aggro, but still bad and boring as hell.

Metallica did themselves a total disservice by promoting this album so much before its release... If they hadn't built up so much hype, people's expectations would have been much less and they would have judged the album on its merit not on Lars Ulrich's claim that this was a MoP / ...AJFA cross.

That being said, I think this song is not bad at all, I've had a few listens to it now and it is growing on me, I'm looking forward to the album. Will it amaze me, i doubt it... but I am intrigued and apart from St. Anger all their other music has had really good enjoyable elements to it, I'm sure this one will as well.

The main thing you have to remember when listening to a band like Metallica is that these guys are not hungry like the juveniles they once were, it is impossible for them ever to be like that again, listen to their music as if it were any other band and make your judgements.

...if only they could keep their mouths shut.

This song is very good. I liked it a lot. I think Metallica are on the right track indeed.

the new song is not bad, but it's not that good either -I don't like the drumming that much, they just don't sound good, Hammet's solo is poor. The song is incoherent, the changing of rhythms sounds somewhat forced (at least to my ears).

and I agree to the idea that they shouldn't act like they are reinventing metal with every album they make. it's annoying, a little bit of modesty wouldn't hurt.

Written by [user id=17278] on 26.08.2008 at 01:04

the new song is not bad, but it's not that good either -I don't like the drumming that much, they just don't sound good, Hammet's solo is poor. The song is incoherent, the changing of rhythms sounds somewhat forced (at least to my ears).

You have the exact same problems with it as me and Soren... let me guess... you're over 35?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.08.2008 at 01:17

Written by [user id=17278] on 26.08.2008 at 01:04

the new song is not bad, but it's not that good either -I don't like the drumming that much, they just don't sound good, Hammet's solo is poor. The song is incoherent, the changing of rhythms sounds somewhat forced (at least to my ears).

You have the exact same problems with it as me and Soren... let me guess... you're over 35?

almost there - the fact is i don't expect another Master of puppets or a back to the roots album, but something decent at least, some nice riffs and solos. I thought the presence of Trujillo, who is a good bassist would improve things, but as usual he doesn't have much to say in the creative "department" (see Newsted's case), Hetfield and Urlich are apparently in charge of that.

Written by [user id=17278] on 26.08.2008 at 01:26

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.08.2008 at 01:17

Written by [user id=17278] on 26.08.2008 at 01:04

the new song is not bad, but it's not that good either -I don't like the drumming that much, they just don't sound good, Hammet's solo is poor. The song is incoherent, the changing of rhythms sounds somewhat forced (at least to my ears).

You have the exact same problems with it as me and Soren... let me guess... you're over 35?

almost there - the fact is i don't expect another Master of puppets or a back to the roots album, but something decent at least, some nice riffs and solos. I thought the presence of Trujillo, who is a good bassist would improve things, but as usual he doesn't have much to say in the creative "department" (see Newsted's case), Hetfield and Urlich are apparently in charge of that.

Exactly, I was also hoping for some Trujillo input since what he contributed to Suicidal Tendencies and the other bands he played in was great. But unfrotunately it once again seems to be a case such as that of Newsted.