Written by Diabolo on 18.10.2011 at 18:34

No problem mate! Although I learned that Fyrnask is considered to be half German half Norwegian band. Anyone have a clue why?

I'll have to thank you for this mate. A very good album. Love at first spin!

Written by Diabolo on 18.10.2011 at 18:34

No problem mate! Although I learned that Fyrnask is considered to be half German half Norwegian band. Anyone have a clue why?

Where did it say that?
Everywhere I look it says Fyrnask is German.
Maybe the guy behind it is half German half Norwegian?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.10.2011 at 17:09

Written by Diabolo on 18.10.2011 at 18:34

No problem mate! Although I learned that Fyrnask is considered to be half German half Norwegian band. Anyone have a clue why?

Where did it say that?
Everywhere I look it says Fyrnask is German.
Maybe the guy behind it is half German half Norwegian?

I was pretty damn sure Fyrnask is German band myself but half half songs on Bluostar album and his myspace http://www.myspace.com/fyrnask stating Tromsø, Norway as a location made me quite unsure.

Maybe he just moved there...

German musicians are great people in a lot of genres. Endstille blew my mind away some years ago but this thread really gave me some new names to check out so thanks! One band that I don't see though is Waffenträger Lucifers that I found quite brilliant (I'm not sure they're german though might be austrian or swiss).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt1G7SW8g4Q

Last week was the last concert of the remaining Lifelover members at the German Autumn Depression festival. And on all the forums in the internet everyone was like: "That Lifelover tribute thing was disappointing, but Fäulnis were amazing!" So I checked them out and thought I'd share it with you. Not dissimilar to Lifelover, Todtgelichter or Agrypnie. So far I like

Fäulnis is absolutely stunning band. Very recomended!

Fäulnis sounds like good shit! Thanx for the tip.

Off the top of my head, I can mention 2 German BM bands that I would by the way place on two opposite ends of the quality spectrum.

On the left of the spectrum, among total shit that's not worth a dime is Nargaroth with their poseur pseudo music. Easily among the worst BM bands in existence. The band leader is a total joke as well.

On the right of the spectrum, surrounded by other brilliant bands is Nagelfar. One of the best BM bands that never became famous.

My vote in this matter would be:

L - worst: Mystic Circle

R - best: Lunar Aurora

And best deppressive would be:

WHY U NO LIKE NARGAROTH

Seriously, they aren't the greatest, I'll give you that. But there's a few albums (pretty much between '99 and '04 or so) that are worth at least a little merit.

I agree, Daniel's assessment of Nargaroth is way, way off. Not exactly masterminds but they're relatively listenable, even quite pleasant sometimes. Then again it's pretty hip to hate Nargaroth.

What the hell is pseudo-music anyway? This?



Don't think so. This is an example of pseudo-music:

^ I agree with them. Nargaroth has some good albums. Not really that bad.

I'm not really familiar with Nargaroth, to be honest. I found their last album to be crap, but I've had some amazing moments with an amazing person while "Herbst" was playing, so I'll definitely be looking into Jahreszeiten some time in the future.

Written by Diabolo on 26.10.2011 at 18:46

My vote in this matter would be:

L - worst: Mystic Circle

R - best: Lunar Aurora

Mystc Circle isn't the best bm band from Germany, but Open The Gates Of Hell is listenable for sure. The problem with this band imo is that they don't go anywhere: black, death, gothic, dark? I don't know but it's a mix of styles that doesn't appeal to me that much. The Great Beast and Damien were also ok but I didn't listen to the last album, so I don't know how they sound these days.

L - worst: I think Immortal Remains is Germany's worst bm band (in my collection) I don't even know how that album ended in my house.

R - best: I can't choose but I second Lunar Aurora. Endstille is one of my favs right now, but I don't know their first offerings. Dark Fortress has never made a bad album. Nyktalgia maybe, but they aren't around for so long. Pffft, difficult.

The ones I named in a previous post do count too, but...I agree Moonblood is overrated.

Compering to this, Mystic Circle sounds like pure crap .. no matter how you twist it

Written by Diabolo on 27.10.2011 at 12:59


Compering to this, Mystic Circle sounds like pure crap .. no matter how you twist it

That's the truth!

Everyone is telling me that Nargaroth isn't so bad. Well, to each his own. I'm probably biased by what a big poser that Nargaroth guy is and it affects my taste.

But why on earth no one agrees with me about how great Nagelfar is???

Written by Daniell on 27.10.2011 at 15:01

Everyone is telling me that Nargaroth isn't so bad. Well, to each his own. I'm probably biased by what a big poser that Nargaroth guy is and it affects my taste.

But why on earth no one agrees with me about how great Nagelfar is???

Because everyone knows how great Nagelfar is. Kinda goes without saying ;] Their first album is truly underrated, even amongst Nagelfar fans who tend to prefer 'Srontgorrth'

Haha agree about the Nagelfar one. So far it's the best German BM band out there for me.

Question that pops in my mind is - yes, today we all know how awesome and great Nagelfar are/were - why on earth they were so underrated??

a) is it because of their name, so the shadow of world famous Naglfar was too strong (although musically no similarity at all)

b) they were way way ahead of their time

c) you tell me

Perhaps it was because their tenure ended 10 years ago or so, which was probably just before or around the time the internet starting getting big. In the UK broadband didn't become mainstream until 2000 so they didn't have the benefit of internet related discussion and promotion. They resigned to a "cult classic" kind of status. I imagine a lot of people discover them through The Ruins of Beverast who are more current, they both have equal amounts of listeners on Last.fm

I believe that German black metal scene in mid and late 90ies was underrated as such, bands from Scandinavia region were on the full rise .... only two bands I remember that were heavily pushed by the labels and promotors were Agathodaimon and Mystic Circle, both had more goth tendencies. Specially MC left such a bad taste in my ears that I neglected the German scene for a long long time ... much later I realized it was a tremendous mistake to do!

Another interesting point regarding Nagelfar:

"The band themselves did not appear to consider Srontgorrth as an album; the band's official website labels Virus West as their second album." (from Wikipedia)

Written by [user id=4365] on 27.10.2011 at 15:29

Written by Daniell on 27.10.2011 at 15:01

Everyone is telling me that Nargaroth isn't so bad. Well, to each his own. I'm probably biased by what a big poser that Nargaroth guy is and it affects my taste.

But why on earth no one agrees with me about how great Nagelfar is???

Because everyone knows how great Nagelfar is. Kinda goes without saying ;] Their first album is truly underrated, even amongst Nagelfar fans who tend to prefer 'Srontgorrth'

Nagelfar fans prefer Srontgorrth over Hünengrab? I always thought I'm the only one o.O

And speaking of underrated bands: I'm surprised Nocte Obducta have only so few fans. Even Agrypnie have more fans on this site and they are more or less just an off-shoot of Nocte.

Written by Promonex on 27.10.2011 at 20:15


Nagelfar fans prefer Srontgorrth over Hünengrab? I always thought I'm the only one o.O

Well Lucas definitely prefers it and Mr.D probably does too. Just seems to be a more popular album.

Written by [user id=4365] on 27.10.2011 at 20:42

Written by Promonex on 27.10.2011 at 20:15


Nagelfar fans prefer Srontgorrth over Hünengrab? I always thought I'm the only one o.O

Well Lucas definitely prefers it and Mr.D probably does too. Just seems to be a more popular album.

So do I. Srontgorrth for me is top 10 of black metal albums of all time. Maybe closer to the 10th spot than to the 1st, but still.

Written by Daniell on 27.10.2011 at 20:45


So do I. Srontgorrth for me is top 10 of black metal albums of all time. Maybe closer to the 10th spot than to the 1st, but still.

I like that album but I prefer the melody of the first album, it's just... friggin' epic.

Some less known bands that I thoroughly enjoyed aare Klabautamann, Odium Immortalis and especially Essenz, who mix black with death and some doom. Check out the opener from their debut. Fantastic, trance inducing stuff. Make sure you listen to the end, there's some weirdly magnificent female vocal performance there.



I think I wrote a review for this album, but I must've misplaced it. I'll try to dig it up.

Written by Daniell on 27.10.2011 at 15:01

But why on earth no one agrees with me about how great Nagelfar is???

many who will reda it will say WTF dude you miox Ger vs Swe but I agree Nagelfar are awesome, if we compere names of corse Swe are well known, but never will recah such level, I love german band, realy awesome

about Nargaroth, Prom , last album is crap, they have criated soem good songs in early years, but not bad, I have heard worst BM bands

Written by Bad English on 28.10.2011 at 00:40
many who will reda it will say WTF dude you miox Ger vs Swe

I don't think that many will make the mistake. Any underground black metal fan will know the difference between the two.

Written by Daniell on 27.10.2011 at 15:01

Everyone is telling me that Nargaroth isn't so bad. Well, to each his own. I'm probably biased by what a big poser that Nargaroth guy is and it affects my taste.

But why on earth no one agrees with me about how great Nagelfar is???

With Nagelfar I assume you mean a german bm band and not the swedish pop bm band Naglfar. I need to check that out before commenting.