Written by broken goddess on 30.01.2007 at 21:36

well, that situation is a bit extreme but I won't doubt that things like that happen.
I'd like to think that most families who DO adopt would be good to the children they choose to take in as their own, only thing is the isn't nearly enough families out there willing to take in un-related children, so very many of them sit in the orphanages just spending their lives waiting for someone to come along and care about them. It's sad really....

And even with all of the screening adoption agencies put their perspective applicant through, you can't single out all of the weirdos, or abusive parents that come in.

Well i dont wanna work I hate work and I beter die how work ion some ind of work, so I hope my studies be eternal

But yes moust iof children wanna live own life, but all can hepen, and i jsut wanna say if thgat situation hepen, parents shood take care about it even if istneceerly give him/her money whole life because thay want him/her

I agree, even adopted parents have obligations to thier children. If they want to take them in as their own, they should make the same effort most blood-parents do, which is seeing that your child is well and taken care of until it is set to become an adult on it's own, whichever age that may be.

Written by broken goddess on 30.01.2007 at 21:47

I agree, even adopted parents have obligations to thier children. If they want to take them in as their own, they should make the same effort most blood-parents do, which is seeing that your child is well and taken care of until it is set to become an adult on it's own, whichever age that may be.

Yes I agree but for blood-parents its harder to do something to him, addopted, ehh its mot my child, but if love is strong then thay love him/her like them own

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

And whos gonna win, in you opinium?

Yes bout sides are +/- but its hard to choose

I hear that Irish women goe sto england make abortion, but Portugal does thay go to ''fake'' clinkics and doctors pay more money, bcause I dont belive there are no iligal abortion

I think it is the best way that abortion stay legal, if you don't want to do it you simply don't, if someone don't want baby she will not born only because it is not legal, it would be always be the way to abort, and it is not very good. Everybody knows what are those ways.

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

do you mean that you are voting on wether it should be allowed to have an abortion, after being 10 weeks along in the pregnancy??? because most women don't even know they ARE pregnant until about 7-8 weeks in, so that would only give them 2 weeks to decide!!!!!!

Written by broken goddess on 31.01.2007 at 02:09

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

do you mean that you are voting on wether it should be allowed to have an abortion, after being 10 weeks along in the pregnancy??? because most women don't even know they ARE pregnant until about 7-8 weeks in, so that would only give them 2 weeks to decide!!!!!!

If the "yes" wins, women will be allowed to abort in the first 10 weeks yes. Its a very delicate issue. I need more time to formulate an opinion. I need to read more about it, from both sides so that I can make a conscient decision. Cuz in this country is all about the money, and everyone's only speaking about what is convenient, which is a shame.

Written by Bad English on 31.01.2007 at 00:15

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

And whos gonna win, in you opinium?

Yes bout sides are +/- but its hard to choose

I hear that Irish women goe sto england make abortion, but Portugal does thay go to ''fake'' clinkics and doctors pay more money, bcause I dont belive there are no iligal abortion

According to polls the "yes" is winning with a good margin. Yes they go to clinics mostly in Spain to abort or they do it in Portugal with no conditions at all.

Abortion, i dont believe its right, but i think that the mother that is killer her own child, should have right reasons too, not just some 40 year old that dosent want another kid, but mabey a 14 year old that forgot to use birth control with her boyfriend and got pregnant, bceause that can ruin more then one like, it can her's the babys and the boyfriend, in some cases it is good, and i think they should keep it, but i dont think just any person can walk in and do it, its murder, and even worse is its, murder to a baby that hasent even entered the world yet.

Written by BloodTears on 31.01.2007 at 22:56

Written by Bad English on 31.01.2007 at 00:15

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

And whos gonna win, in you opinium?

Yes bout sides are +/- but its hard to choose

I hear that Irish women goe sto england make abortion, but Portugal does thay go to ''fake'' clinkics and doctors pay more money, bcause I dont belive there are no iligal abortion

According to polls the "yes" is winning with a good margin. Yes they go to clinics mostly in Spain to abort or they do it in Portugal with no conditions at all.

Yesterday was the voting, how did it gone?

Written by APOHAKC on 12.02.2007 at 01:12

Written by BloodTears on 31.01.2007 at 22:56

Written by Bad English on 31.01.2007 at 00:15

Written by BloodTears on 30.01.2007 at 23:59

We have a vote coming up this month in Portugal, we are supposed to vote for or against the legalization of abortion until the 10 weeks. I'm very undecided, I agree with points on both sides.

And whos gonna win, in you opinium?

Yes bout sides are +/- but its hard to choose

I hear that Irish women goe sto england make abortion, but Portugal does thay go to ''fake'' clinkics and doctors pay more money, bcause I dont belive there are no iligal abortion

According to polls the "yes" is winning with a good margin. Yes they go to clinics mostly in Spain to abort or they do it in Portugal with no conditions at all.

Yesterday was the voting, how did it gone?

The "yes" won by majority. 59%. But since the number off ppl that didnt vote was very high it is now the general assembly that will decide which law will be implemented. But usually, the assembly follows the majority so by 2008 the law will change and abortions will be allowed.

And now only 3 counties in EU don't have abortion yet , that are Ireland , Poland and Malta
What a pity, what a sad news for all those babies that shall die in future


In Malta it is a matter of time to have a similar case

Written by Lupas on 13.02.2007 at 12:57

And now only 3 counties in EU don't have abortion yet , that are Ireland , Poland and Malta
What a pity, what a sad news for all those babies that shall die in future


In Malta it is a matter of time to have a similar case

I doubt Poland and Irland ever get abortion but Polish women can go to Lithainia or Germany or Czeh republic and Irish moustly go to UK

Well also here , women go to italy or in England to do abortion .
A few months ago, a local newspaper reported that almost 300 women per year went abort to do abortion. That means almost one a day .

It would be better to make new law and save some money in the country treasury those weemen spent in Italy, England...

Going abroad for abortion?

A debate is taking place in Mexico City for giving abortion a legal status before 12 weeks of pregnancy. This is in order to give women in Mexico City the right to decide whether they want to have an abortion or not.

I'm tottaly against abortion, despite of being an Atheist, My general thought about life is: "Life is property of every single people, not Goverment's, not the parents' neither the deity in which you believe" so, you and ONLY you have the right to decide what to do with your life.

The abortion is, in my opinion, a murder, a very coward one, since they are killing a defenseless being, who is suppossed to be safe in a pseudo mother. When a criminal attacks a weak person, at least this person has the possibillity of running, but an embrion, hasn't any chances. If a mother doesn't want a child, it would be better to abandone him/her in the hospital, or else.

I think you can conclude this about my view:
I'm against abortion and infanticide but I support suicide and euthanasia (this could be discussed later in the respective thread if I found it)

Written by selken on 03.04.2007 at 07:30

I'm tottaly against abortion, despite of being an Atheist, My general thought about life is: "Life is property of every single people, not Goverment's, not the parents' neither the deity in which you believe" so, you and ONLY you have the right to decide what to do with your life.

I agree but fetus cant choose and its probleme, if he when grows older dont wanna live and do suicide? IMO parents shood ask to child you wanna live or not before make it, but w eknow ist not psoible do, so only think no children...but themn no future, so no sulution this time

Written by Paganblood on 16.02.2007 at 10:33

Going abroad for abortion?

Sorry for late reponse Yeahm many weemen are going abroad to abort, in many countries. In my country abortion is legal so our weemen can abort safely here, but we have many girls from other countries here coming just to abort. Especially from middle east, and now from Montenegro cause they are not letting thir weemen to abort there, in my place there is ultra fancy clinic and I watch those girls every day, it is sad they have to come here from far away, and in most cases much richer countries to abort here.

I think abortion should be allowed because the thing that is getting destroyed is not life yet. A fetus is basically like the seed of a plant and it's disgusting how protesters are basically saying that they want young women all over the world to have to take care of young children when they themselves are young. That is worse then torcher, for the mother (maybe the father) and the unfourtunate child.

I've also just completed a research project about the benefits of Stem Cell Research and if abouted fetuses and embryos are used for that process, it might eventualy save A LOT of lives. I think it's better to use fetuses for that purpose rather then them being born unhappy children, because the families that want to abort them obviously don't want them.

I'm so glad I live in Norway.
Not that we have no political issues, but people agree quite often how the laws should be.
if I'm not mistaken, you can take abortion until the 13th week or so in Norway.
and yes it's good that it's legal.

Yesterday in Mexico City, abortion was legalized, only in Meixco city, in the other states abortion is illegal. I didnt see that coming, because here in Mexico, the church controls public opinion.
I totally agree with abortion, and for countries like Mexico, where family planification means nothing, i think its a excelent way to prevent undesirable child. Also its a way of birth control, and in case you dont now, Mexico City has more population than Australia, Chile, Norway, Sweden, Findland, so birth control its totally nesesary.

I don't agree to it but I guess it is necessary sometimes. I don't see how people could even think of raising children they cannot afford. Bearing a child is a great responsability. World is full of children of irresponsability, of abuses and deseases.
It's horrible to say it, but children without money is almost a crime. People get frustrated, depressed and then pour all their negative feelings and situations on these young creatures. It's really low the probability such children will grow out to be individuals respecting themselves.

Also I don't really understand how some parents could bring to life children they already know will be suffering a morbus-down. This is condamning people to a life of ostracism and suffering. A normal life for such individuals is impossible. I see many cases of the kind where parents bring them to life only for the sake of the pension they will get from the state and have a total desrespect for the poor creatures, this is disgusting and cruel

Teenagers should be taught by their families and society that life is not a joke and what one does has consequences on long terms.

Those who live by dogmas and have a helping hand are eager to show others what is wrong and right. A woman has the right to decide about her own body and I'm ok with this, but she doesn't have the right to decide on her own to abortion. Decision should be made by both parents.

if a child will be born disabled, and the parents konw this, the child must be aborted.
'cause when the child lives disabled, it will be diffucult to live and when the parents see their child, they'll be sad and the life will turn a torment. So the aborting is necessary...

But if the child will be born healty, noone can decide a human's life. The child must be born.

Written by Lupas on 13.02.2007 at 12:57

And now only 3 counties in EU don't have abortion yet , that are Ireland , Poland and Malta
What a pity, what a sad news for all those babies that shall die in future


In Malta it is a matter of time to have a similar case

An embryo is NOT a baby. A week old embryo is a mass of about 150 cells. To put that in perspective, a fly's brain contains 100,000 cells. I know that the embryo has the potential to be something very significant (I say potential because 50% of all embryos end up being destroyed in a spontaneous abortion within the mother) and I hate the idea of anything dieing (I wouldn't kill a fly), but making it altogether illegal for somebody to have an abortion would lead to a lot more suffering than allowing abortion. Allowing abortion gives the people who disagree with you a safe way of doing what they may otherwise do illegally.

Increasing contraceptive technology will render abortion nearly irrelevant some time in the future anyway.

Written by [user id=23093] on 25.05.2007 at 20:29

if a child will be born disabled, and the parents konw this, the child must be aborted.
'cause when the child lives disabled, it will be diffucult to live and when the parents see their child, they'll be sad and the life will turn a torment. So the aborting is necessary...

But if the child will be born healty, noone can decide a human's life. The child must be born.

That's what Hitler said to his people to do. Take into account that sometimes Doctors do have a margin of error telling that the baby is unhealthy and when the baby was born it was proven that they where wrong. There are many cases that shows that doctors told parents that have twins and instead they have only one baby.

And for this you decided to terminate one human life cause it is unforunate . There are many people out there that with disability have done many great things for their society. They even do things that no other "normal " people can do. Take another case when someone had a car accident and he have to live in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Many of these people develop many other things that they don't even imagine to do when they where normal.

I can't agree with you here. Who we are to judge others from their image or disable

I don't like it but i think it should be legal. I think its wrong so i wont do it if anyone else thinks its ok then i'm not going to stop them thats intolerance trying to force my morals a values on someone else. Also people most likely will get abortions anyway in a alley or something. So it should be legal

Written by [user id=18563] on 11.06.2007 at 06:00

I don't like it but i think it should be legal. I think its wrong so i wont do it if anyone else thinks its ok then i'm not going to stop them thats intolerance trying to force my morals a values on someone else. Also people most likely will get abortions anyway in a alley or something. So it should be legal

Exactly, we need professional people who knows how to do abortions. A lot of women would otherwise hurt themselves if they don't want to have the baby.