Written by [user id=29643] on 06.02.2008 at 03:46

oh and as for atheist ?? i totally dig all their stuff. the older albums i like more ,but i try to see where the band is going when ever a new album comes out. if i get it cool , if not maybe i will listen to it a year later and dig it.

Yeah but they haven't put an album out since 1993, only releases. So...?

hmm imo atheist has always released good albums, i really like their music, i think it's quite different and unique...i think they've got a special style that won't change...i hope so...

I'm pretty sure that Atheist have chosen not to record anything new because they don't feel like it would be the same. Kelly Schaeffer has said that he thinks that one cannot write such music in a reunion situation and I respect him for the fact that instead of catering to he expectations of fans (like Mameli seems to be doing with "reunited" Pestilence) he does what he feels is the best thing to do, and does not intend to record anything new with Atheist.

Written by [user id=23267] on 06.02.2008 at 16:42

I'm pretty sure that Atheist have chosen not to record anything new because they don't feel like it would be the same. Kelly Schaeffer has said that he thinks that one cannot write such music in a reunion situation and I respect him for the fact that instead of catering to he expectations of fans (like Mameli seems to be doing with "reunited" Pestilence) he does what he feels is the best thing to do, and does not intend to record anything new with Atheist.

I see that you at least read the inetrview I did with Kelly & Tony properly. An imaginary +1

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.02.2008 at 16:50

I see that you at least read the inetrview I did with Kelly & Tony properly. An imaginary +1

Actually I read that from the liner notes of one of the reissues (don't remember which) and didn't even remember that Kelly also talked about it in your interview. I see your point though, it's somewhat annoying to see people claiming that "they really should make a new album" given that Kelly has numerously elaborated on why he thinks it would be a bad idea.

Written by [user id=23267] on 06.02.2008 at 20:12

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 06.02.2008 at 16:50

I see that you at least read the inetrview I did with Kelly & Tony properly. An imaginary +1

Actually I read that from the liner notes of one of the reissues (don't remember which) and didn't even remember that Kelly also talked about it in your interview. I see your point though, it's somewhat annoying to see people claiming that "they really should make a new album" given that Kelly has numerously elaborated on why he thinks it would be a bad idea.

I'm totally fine with that if it's the musicians own decision. But I hate when fans complain about bands that do release new albums because it somehow "tainted" their old ones. Just seems ignorant.

Written by Clintagräm on 06.02.2008 at 20:25

[I'm totally fine with that if it's the musicians own decision. But I hate when fans complain about bands that do release new albums because it somehow "tainted" their old ones. Just seems ignorant.

I agree with you here, if a band really wants to do a reunion for the right reasons, then by all means let them do it. It's not that I think that reunions are neccesarily a bad thing, I just find it somewhat annoying when people say that "band x should reform/record a new album" when it's clear that the band itself doesn't think it's a good idea.

Come to think of it I also see your point about people whining about bands "tainting" their legacy, I'm so sick of statements like "Mayhem died in 1993", or "Celtic Frost ended with To Mega Therion" etc. Though in case of some bands it's more or less justified imo. I guess it all boils down to whether the bands in question are still doing anything interesting and have maintained (or refound) their integrity.

Written by [user id=23267] on 06.02.2008 at 21:04

Written by Clintagräm on 06.02.2008 at 20:25

[I'm totally fine with that if it's the musicians own decision. But I hate when fans complain about bands that do release new albums because it somehow "tainted" their old ones. Just seems ignorant.

I agree with you here, if a band really wants to do a reunion for the right reasons, then by all means let them do it. It's not that I think that reunions are neccesarily a bad thing, I just find it somewhat annoying when people say that "band x should reform/record a new album" when it's clear that the band itself doesn't think it's a good idea.

Come to think of it I also see your point about people whining about bands "tainting" their legacy, I'm so sick of statements like "Mayhem died in 1993", or "Celtic Frost ended with To Mega Therion" etc. Though in case of some bands it's more or less justified imo. I guess it all boils down to whether the bands in question are still doing anything interesting and have maintained (or refound) their integrity.

Yeah but who's the judge that integrity? From our points, being fans, it's from the fans. It's like if someone doesn't even recognize new Darkthrone or Slayer and only stick to their old guns. It doesn't really bother me, just when they group up in their little online elitist groups (MA anyone?) it can get quite annoying when trying to enjoy an album objectively.

Written by Clintagräm on 06.02.2008 at 21:15
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It doesn't really bother me, just when they group up in their little online elitist groups (MA anyone?) it can get quite annoying when trying to enjoy an album objectively.

The whining and shitflinging on M-A and other messageboards is pretty tiring. But let's not stray futher from the topic, after all the thread is about Atheist and not about the overtly conservative metal "elitists"

Written by [user id=23267] on 06.02.2008 at 21:52

Written by Clintagräm on 06.02.2008 at 21:15
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It doesn't really bother me, just when they group up in their little online elitist groups (MA anyone?) it can get quite annoying when trying to enjoy an album objectively.

The whining and shitflinging on M-A and other messageboards is pretty tiring. But let's not stray futher from the topic, after all the thread is about Atheist and not about the overtly conservative metal "elitists"

Yep. Like most others, I personally enjoy Atheist whenever I take the time to listen to them. I can't help but feel they were way ahead of their time with the music they created. A very refreshing experience.

Written by Clintagräm on 06.02.2008 at 00:17

You elitist fucks. Joke, joke. But seriously, I hate when people say by releasing something new it will "tarnish" their other albums and their past. It's just that, THE PAST. It can not be changed. I'm pretty sure 'Show No Mercy' is still awesome even if someone thought 'Diabolus In Musica' wasn't. The same goes for any band who's put out material their "fans" didn't enjoy. I just dope these guys are doing it out of personal feeling and not public (being the Metal community) opinion.

Heh. Yeah I *do* get your point. Being the fan that I am, I'd be one of the first guys to go out and buy any new Atheist material before even listening to it. I did say that I'd be looking forward to any material that Schaffer and the boys put out. But I still feel really glad that they decided not to release anything under the Atheist moniker.

They'd be a different band now, 15 years down the line. Obviously they aren't doing this because of the 'public' opinion. They're at the peak of their popularity right now, more so than they've ever been before I'd dare say, and it'd be an *ideal* time to release an album. And most definitely I don't want them to tarnish their 'status' by releasing a sub-par album (note, I mentioned 'tarnish their status' not 'tarnish their other albums' - nothing can make me dislike the first three Atheist albums).

The thing with the other bands like Slayer, Darkthrone etc. is that they've been consistently releasing albums and the progression from say Show No Mercy to Christ Illusion is quite visible.

It's like this, let's say your favourite TV show is Friends (just an example ). Would you have liked it if they had done a very meagre reunion episode? Who want's to end on a bad note, when you ended on such a high one? And chances are that things can be meagre with everyone aged and losing their acting capabilities and whatnot. The chances of a downright awesome episode comparing to those of the older seasons is very less, IMO (me being the pessimist that I am). But hell yeah, I'd love it if they could pull out some tricks from under their sleeve and reproduce the older magic.

So final verdict: Very happy that they haven't released anything. BUT would definitely want to check out anything new that Atheist release and pray to God (oh the irony...) that it turns out to be like the older days.

And I'm no elitist.

"Atheist! - all in all its just a name. Elements had a different line-up as the previous albums, should they have had change the name back then too (theoreticallyy speaking, as far as I know it wasn't possible as the label demanded an Atheist album). So producing a new album nowadays isn't that different from the situation then. Doesn't really matter to me what garments the new album will be wearing. Its the music which matters, be it the band called Pink Dreams, Atheist or whatever.

Atheist are "jazz-death" LEGENDS. PERIOD. They covered an incredible amount of ground over the course of only three albums. Its nearly impossible for me to choose my fav. Atheist album. All the three are so very amazing in their own ways. Well , I like "Unquestionable Presence" 's cover art the most.

Written by [user id=31046] on 01.03.2008 at 21:31

Well , I like "Unquestionable Presence" 's cover art the most.

Many fans seems to like that one the most but the band likes that one the least and like Elements artwork most.

I have only heard a few songs from the Elements album, I like Air the best from what I have heard.

I think the only songs I heard from this band are:
Air
Mineral
And I think Elements

Any recommended songs from any other albums?

Mother Man, An Incarnation's Dream, Enthralled in Essence, Formative Years from Unquestionable Presence.

I Deny, No Truth, On They Slay, Beyond, A Room With A View from Piece of Time.

These are my favorites from the first two albums.

@ TJ

Listen to all the songs on all the three albums. You wont regret it. I have yet to hear a single song I dislike on any of their albums.

Atheist are the pioneers of tech. death, that's why they have such a high status and they deserve it because their music is incredible. They're very unique sounding, even throughout all these years i don't think any band has bothered to be exactly like Atheist. That's how much respect all of us metalheads owe them . Nonetheless, they inspired alot of bands, i wonder where the tech death scene would stand today without these guys. As for a new album, i would'nt mind, i just don't expect it to be as good, but you never know.
Praise the jazz-death metallers.

Well... I Started listening to Tech-Death with ''Unquestionable Presence'' and since that day
i've been a Tech-Death fan. Atheist is just incredible, i've never thought a band could give
us such quality.. seriously. They're crazy.

About releasing new material.. well I understand that some ppl might think that
releasing new stuff could make them lose their ''STATUS'' lol.. but i don't know
i like this band, so why not trying something new ? I never get bored of listenin to them
but i'd like to hear some new stuff ? A band gets maturity with time and i'd like to see how
Atheist grew through all these 15 years of Void...

Well its my opinion

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Written by Elio on 01.10.2008 at 22:41

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Yeah i agree all the albums were real wonders.. but what do you think ?
Should they record new material.. or just leave it like this with the old stuff ?

With 15 years behind them.. I got the feeling that the inspiration might be back.. don't you think so ??

Written by Guib on 02.10.2008 at 02:06

Written by Elio on 01.10.2008 at 22:41

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Yeah i agree all the albums were real wonders.. but what do you think ?
Should they record new material.. or just leave it like this with the old stuff ?

With 15 years behind them.. I got the feeling that the inspiration might be back.. don't you think so ??

Well I'd be happy if they recorded another album...thare could be new energy and ideas probably...but could be also a bit disappointing as someone view the new Cynic (which I haven't still listened excluding a couple of songs)

Written by Elio on 02.10.2008 at 15:01

Written by Guib on 02.10.2008 at 02:06

Written by Elio on 01.10.2008 at 22:41

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Yeah i agree all the albums were real wonders.. but what do you think ?
Should they record new material.. or just leave it like this with the old stuff ?

With 15 years behind them.. I got the feeling that the inspiration might be back.. don't you think so ??

Well I'd be happy if they recorded another album...thare could be new energy and ideas probably...but could be also a bit disappointing as someone view the new Cynic (which I haven't still listened excluding a couple of songs)

Yeah i understand your point

Written by Elio on 02.10.2008 at 15:01

Written by Guib on 02.10.2008 at 02:06

Written by Elio on 01.10.2008 at 22:41

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Yeah i agree all the albums were real wonders.. but what do you think ?
Should they record new material.. or just leave it like this with the old stuff ?

With 15 years behind them.. I got the feeling that the inspiration might be back.. don't you think so ??

Well I'd be happy if they recorded another album...thare could be new energy and ideas probably...but could be also a bit disappointing as someone view the new Cynic (which I haven't still listened excluding a couple of songs)

...i didn't find the new album disappointing...i think both r amazing groups and yes they should record more albums, i bet they are all going to be excellent...just can't get enought of them so it'll be a great gift!!

Written by nana.MD on 04.10.2008 at 23:53

Written by Elio on 02.10.2008 at 15:01

Written by Guib on 02.10.2008 at 02:06

Written by Elio on 01.10.2008 at 22:41

I like tech death...first came Death, then Cynic...now the brilliant Atheist....3 awesome albums.

Yeah i agree all the albums were real wonders.. but what do you think ?
Should they record new material.. or just leave it like this with the old stuff ?

With 15 years behind them.. I got the feeling that the inspiration might be back.. don't you think so ??

Well I'd be happy if they recorded another album...thare could be new energy and ideas probably...but could be also a bit disappointing as someone view the new Cynic (which I haven't still listened excluding a couple of songs)

...i didn't find the new album disappointing...i think both r amazing groups and yes they should record more albums, i bet they are all going to be excellent...just can't get enought of them so it'll be a great gift!!

Exactly what i think And they can't record something ''Bad'' anyways

I have only heard their pice of time album, and i thought it was alright, but i have heard that their sound changed on the two other albums, that they are more jazzy and technical? i'm excited to hear them;)

Written by RockeRoy on 05.02.2009 at 10:28

I have only heard their pice of time album, and i thought it was alright, but i have heard that their sound changed on the two other albums, that they are more jazzy and technical? i'm excited to hear them;)

Yes they are! Piece of Time is their most 'conventional' album, so to speak. Unquestionnable Presence is the stuff of legends, and Elements showed how far they could go in mixing metal and jazz.

Unquestionable Presence is definitely my favourite. and i really can't wait for the new one

I'm worried about how the new album will sound and I have doubts about Kelly's vocals, but I'll still buy it for sure because it's Atheist!

Written by Dangerboner on 06.02.2009 at 12:01

I'm worried about how the new album will sound and I have doubts about Kelly's vocals, but I'll still buy it for sure because it's Atheist!

I'm pretty sure its going to kick ass.... but I hope they won't come back like Cynic did -_-