Written by [user id=23458] on 06.07.2007 at 10:16

Dimmu Borgir: great band. I've been recently into them since listening to a few songs. The symphonic part in their music is so powerful and stands out the most in my mind. Not to mention, their new stuff with Hellhammer on drums is sweet (The Chosen Legacy).

Cradle of Filth: could never get into them. Music is somewhat decent, but ugh, Danny Filth's vocals are so horrid to me. Can't listen to them through a whole song.

So yeah, DB no doubt.

I use to like DB when I hera it firts time it was new albums but when I hear first 3 I stop lsiten leither works

Dimmu absolute. I'm gonna see them live!

Borgir.
I saw Borgir live last summer, and i'm going to see COF in a couple of days.

COB earlier albums are majestic but DB's albums are ALL fantastic.

So I chose DB.

Dimmu Borgir, something are still alive....

Stormblast and Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, great works of Dimmu.

I don't think of Dimmu Borgir as sell outs... just because they experiment with each album and make a living off of their efforts doesn't mean they're not a BM band anymore. The church burnings, kvlt ideals and murders shouldn't define BM as a genre. The fact that veteran BM band members have collaborated with Dimmu (like Hellhammer lending himself to drums and Abbath tracking vocal parts on the songs "Progenies Of The Great Apocalypse" and "Heavenly Perverse") is proof that fans are the only ones who give a shit about a BM band's "True" status. There's really no difference between the Dimmu Borgir then and now. It's not like they changed their sound to attract a wider audience. If they had done such then they wouldn't be writing songs about the extermination of humanity and denying Christ... they'd be writing songs about teenage angst. They just progressed like every other band does. Look at Darkthrone. They're not still putting out albums like "A Blaze In The Northern Sky" and "Under A Funeral Moon". I don't really care for bands that stagnate in their sound. Why keep buying the same record over and over again? They just write music that is more accessible than a Carpathian Forest or Moonblood offering. If you don't like what they're putting out then don't buy it. As for Cradle Of Filth I don't think they sold out as much as they just changed their style. These acts were just smart about marketing themselves. I love underground Black Metal but a band's success shouldn't determine whether they are Black or not. I know this post is somewhat off topic but to answer the original question I prefer Dimmu. COF have strayed too far from their original sound for my tastes. Their first four records are brilliant... but I love all of DB's records.

My vote goes to Dimmu Borgir. even though they've changed their style, they're one of my favorites in BM. The term sellout does not apply to them, as they have changed they're stlye to experiment, and don't copy the original BM second wave(mayhem, gorgoroth, burzum, imortal, etc.) with bad production and overuse of technices(trem picking, blasbeats, etc.). I hope I've made sence.

theyre both kikass bands.....but
lately cradle of filth seem like bigger sellouts than dimmu borgir...

I'm not getting into the sellout debate at all but I will take any opportunity to vote for Dimmu Borgir. I don't care how "popular" a band is, that really makes no impact on me. Dimmu makes great music, call it whatever you like.

Dimmu. They definitly arent as hardcore sellouts as COF. That and they were pretty cool live.

Written by Doc G. on 17.09.2007 at 07:37

Dimmu. They definitly arent as hardcore sellouts as COF. That and they were pretty cool live.

I agree but I dont like them after 1995 but somehow I prefere CoF more even in nowdays how Dimmu

Written by [user id=160] on 29.07.2006 at 04:45

Dimmu......ov course

but one question.....

what did CoF sellout from exactly? were they EVER Black Metal? i thought they were always Gothic.

Of curse cause you do not know shit.......they started singing black metal, but now they just turn into a style your little mind would never understand:noidea:

I just don't consider any of these bands works to fall into what I see as BM...same goes for goatwhore

Written by ASiema113 on 01.10.2007 at 08:31

I just don't consider any of these bands works to fall into what I see as BM...same goes for goatwhore

Iagree thay are bM anymore and I doubt CoF ever was trOO BM

I dont like neither of them
but I used to listen to Cradle Of Filth more than Dimmu Borgir
but now I know Dimmu Borgir was better all the time

Cradle of Filth is not a sellout BM band, because they never were worth anything!!! They never sold out because they were always GAY.

Dimmu on the other hand used to kick ass.

Written by [user id=26136] on 02.10.2007 at 15:54

I dont like neither of them
but I used to listen to Cradle Of Filth more than Dimmu Borgir
but now I know Dimmu Borgir was better all the time

I agree CoF are for beginners, but dont remeber about early records of band thay are good, maybe not so how DB first 3 but still

Written by [user id=26057] on 30.09.2007 at 08:16

Written by [user id=160] on 29.07.2006 at 04:45

Dimmu......ov course

but one question.....

what did CoF sellout from exactly? were they EVER Black Metal? i thought they were always Gothic.

Of curse cause you do not know shit.......they started singing black metal, but now they just turn into a style your little mind would never understand:noidea:

Maybe you could explain it then, we tiny-minds need some explanation,

Written by [user id=13894] on 05.10.2007 at 15:19

Written by [user id=26057] on 30.09.2007 at 08:16

Written by [user id=160] on 29.07.2006 at 04:45

Dimmu......ov course

but one question.....

what did CoF sellout from exactly? were they EVER Black Metal? i thought they were always Gothic.

Of curse cause you do not know shit.......they started singing black metal, but now they just turn into a style your little mind would never understand:noidea:

Maybe you could explain it then, we tiny-minds need some explanation,

Thay was more black hwo gothib in early days lsiten early albums you will understand

Written by Bad English on 05.10.2007 at 16:22

Written by [user id=13894] on 05.10.2007 at 15:19

Written by [user id=26057] on 30.09.2007 at 08:16

Written by [user id=160] on 29.07.2006 at 04:45

Dimmu......ov course

but one question.....

what did CoF sellout from exactly? were they EVER Black Metal? i thought they were always Gothic.

Of curse cause you do not know shit.......they started singing black metal, but now they just turn into a style your little mind would never understand:noidea:

Maybe you could explain it then, we tiny-minds need some explanation,

Thay was more black hwo gothib in early days lsiten early albums you will understand

Thanks K7, I actually knew it already, but was still willing to hear another "smart" opinion of Verguetta66.

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Written by [user id=13894] on 05.10.2007 at 16:39


Thay was more black hwo gothib in early days lsiten early albums you will understand

Thanks K7, I actually knew it already, but was still willing to hear another "smart" opinion of Verguetta66.

Better ingnore him be easyer

I don't care if either are sell-outs, they're both good listening, however Dimmu gets my vote simply because Cradle disappoint me frequently with bad covers, although they do have the occasional good one. Plus although I like his vocals, Dani filth is a prick.

Written by Mrshll on 07.10.2007 at 16:42

I don't care if either are sell-outs, they're both good listening, however Dimmu gets my vote simply because Cradle disappoint me frequently with bad covers, although they do have the occasional good one. Plus although I like his vocals, Dani filth is a prick.

In CoF tread you saw something diferent

The definition of sell-out is a band that makes what the market asks for, something trendy... how could be sell-outs two bands that are perfectly original, unique in their own way??? they had been copied to death afterwards, but that's not their problen...

men you cant compare cradle with dimmu, Dimmu is THE BEST BLACK METAL BAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD, Cradle is not good, just a few songs.

well too easy - Dimmu Borgir for sure - Cradle of Filth are just not very good IMO

dimmu is the best black metal in the world... they are good in live... but COF is good also... but they are not good in live... especially danny filth... his voice is edited in their music videos... thats all... dimmu rules...

Written by [user id=26980] on 16.11.2007 at 12:47

dimmu is the best black metal in the world... they are good in live... but COF is good also... but they are not good in live... especially danny filth... his voice is edited in their music videos... thats all... dimmu rules...

I don't really understand what you're writing... but I guess you're saying that Dani's voice isn't good live? I disagree! When I saw them a year ago, during the last verses of Cthulu Dawn... well Dani's voice was louder and sung in probably the highest tone I've ever heard! It was insane! I remember during that, that both me and my friend looked at each other at the same time with a face expression like this:

Dani's vocals are just pure shite.

My friend saw CoF a while ago and apparently they were dreadful, Dani came out in jeans and a tshirt from what I hear. Whereas Dimmu put on a killer show, corpse paint and all.