The only track i really like off of this is Winter Madness, then it's just... meh...

This is really overated in my opinion.

6.5/10

Good album, but 24th top metal record of all time??!!! don't really think so.It's well done extreme melodic metal, but has almost nothing new.

No one mentioned terrible vox? both clean and harsh vocals are among the weakest I've ever heard , like early Ensiferum.

Most overrated album ever. Two or three tracks are good.

That's what happens to forums in general. You get polar opinions. For most fans of the album, we don't bother checking here because we don't care. Wintersun's self titled has always been my favorite album, and a most personal one to me. I find it strange that people find it to be "hyped up". It's as if there is some world on here I've never been aware of. How could Wintersun be hyped up and over rated when nobody I've ever talked to in the USA even knows them? Wintersun is a victim to their own success, it's just what happens. If you don't like it that's fine too, but spare it ratings like 1/10 or even 5/10. Because this album is not bad or even mediocre for what is is trying to achieve. Jari achieved exacted what he wanted to with the album, and within that genre (if one even exists), he did very well. I don't go around saying Blind Guardian sucks, because they completely rule their genre and do well within it. I also do not bother rating bands on here that belong to a genre I do not appreciate. It's not right to begin with. To me, the majority of black metal bands out there deserve 1/10 across the board, but in reality it's just that the genre to me deserves a 1/10, personally. As far as that genre is concerned, these bands do very well and some better than others.

Written by mz on 08.06.2012 at 23:55

Good album, but 24th top metal record of all time??!!! don't really think so.It's well done extreme melodic metal, but has almost nothing new.

Written by mz on 09.06.2012 at 00:03

No one mentioned terrible vox? both clean and harsh vocals are among the weakest I've ever heard , like early Ensiferum.

I find it strange and saddening that this album has come off to people as being overrated, when originally the album was a side project by a niche band nobody had heard of. Don't forget this. It was judged then, and should be judged now, by THOSE standards and within it's own genre and history (early ensiferum). The vocals appeal to fans of Jari in the first place, and to the musical style displayed in early ensiferum. The fact that people like you (non-fans) got your hands on this album and are not happy with it is unfortunate, because Wintersun was never supposed to please anyone who didn't like early Ensiferum in the first place. What I think I am witnessing here is a reaction to the success of a very wild cult fascination that is Wintersun. Again the easiest way to put it is by saying that they are a victim of their own success. After seeing so many negative responses I just want to scream back at everyone that "This album was never for you to hear!". Because it simply wasn't. The above poster criticizing Jari's vocals is most likely a troll, and if he isn't, he is extremely uninformed. Wintersun is early Ensiferum as you know it. That is the appeal, end of story.

Written by Wes on 03.08.2012 at 04:37
...spare it ratings like 1/10 or even 5/10. Because this album is not bad or even mediocre for what is is trying to achieve. Jari achieved exacted what he wanted to with the album, and within that genre (if one even exists), he did very well.

You can't tell people not to rate this lower than a 6 simply because you think what Jari did here "deserves" more. I don't care if he achieved exactly what he wanted to with this, I personally don't enjoy his little "masterpiece". Although personally I would give it a 6 and not a 5, so thankfully I'm not breaking your rating law.

As for them being hyped, the reason why people around you don't know who Wintersun are is the same reason people around me don't even know who Amon Amarth are: because even some of the most popular metal bands simply aren't popular when it comes down to it. Read up on them (Wintersun) more online (not just fanboy reviews like the ones here) and you'll see that the majority of the metal world online is hyping any future Wintersun releases beyond what many consider to be an acceptable level.

Written by Wes on 03.08.2012 at 04:37

rant

He achieved what he wanted to achieve, but what noone else wanted: Watered-down Children of Bodom rip-off metal so sugary it would turn a dentist diabetic.

EPIC SHIT!!!! ohhh fap

Epic, glorious, all-encompassing, this is the standard for all extreme power metal albums (and perhaps all metal albums period) to follow. Absolutely spellbinding album.

A fantastic journey.

I'd probably pick "Sadness and Hate" as the best album closer I've ever heard. What a song - it has it all.

Does this album really need four reviews saying basically the same thing???

All in all, it's a decent album. Overrated as HELL.

Written by king_matt on 20.01.2013 at 21:41

Does this album really need four reviews saying basically the same thing???

All in all, it's a decent album. Overrated as HELL.

Doesn't need four reviews saying the same thing but I don't feel this is overrated. It's close to being a modern masterpiece of metal. The final track is an amazing song. Incredible guitar work throughout the whole album.

Written by king_matt on 20.01.2013 at 21:41

Does this album really need four reviews saying basically the same thing???

All in all, it's a decent album. Overrated as HELL.

Not surprisingly, Hell is rated poorly

Awesome. Varied. Epic. Emotive. Great.

Amazing album. Starchild is my favourite song.

Masterpiece

Seriously, 4 revies with minimum of 9.2 (including 2 reviews with 10)

four reviews for this album ?!

Well, I admit that I used to give this album a 9 personally 4 years ago but 4 reviews with almost same context and rating is a little useless. I also do not like this situation for death's TSoP which is one of my absolute favorites

The four reviews are probably just an indication of a high-level of excitement about this album and people just wanted to put pen to paper, or fingers to keyboard, so as to record their feelings about it. You'll find that Master of Puppets also has the same number of reviews and that's for the same reason, I would suggest. No point getting bitter about it. I think it's good to have multiple reviews, and if they are of a similar nature, so be it.

Written by Ace Frawley on 23.09.2013 at 12:30

No point getting bitter about it. I think it's good to have multiple reviews, and if they are of a similar nature, so be it.

well yeah,I just didn't expect it that there is four reviews on one album by Wintersun.

Written by Ace Frawley on 23.09.2013 at 12:30

The four reviews are probably just an indication of a high-level of excitement about this album and people just wanted to put pen to paper, or fingers to keyboard, so as to record their feelings about it. You'll find that Master of Puppets also has the same number of reviews and that's for the same reason, I would suggest. No point getting bitter about it. I think it's good to have multiple reviews, and if they are of a similar nature, so be it.

but MoP is generally regarded as one of the most important classic metal albums, right? I do not see this quality in wintersun. Moreover, I don't think that multiple reviews with same context would be justified under any light, even it the case of MoP or TSoP (which I really like)

Good album i cant say nothing

Overrated! :

This is good album dude

It's only me, or every next track here is longer than previous?

Written by FYA on 30.06.2014 at 09:27
It's only me, or every next track here is longer than previous?

Nope, it's only you. The version you've got is a rare out-of-print joke version that was limited to 1 copy, handed out to the guest musicians of Time I to share.

Overrated, but still a solid 8/10.

Excellent album with many good melodies.