I have mixed feeling with The Unforgiving. I like a some of the songs and the short films weren't bad. Though their new official videos are just awful. I would have rated it a 6 but now ive listened to the album im giving it a 7.

Written by Jeeers on 26.03.2011 at 14:32

Total garbage! This album is SO bad, it's unbelievable!

Well, it is definitely miles from "tr00 metul" (and in fact it is cheesy, poppish and mainstream as hell) -- but that does not make it bad, if you want to hear my two eurocents.

Anyone who thought a new WT album (a comic-based concept album, mind you!) would be like their Gothic roots and Dance is very naïve (or blind and totally stupid) indeed...

The bottom line? Poppish symphonic rock for those days when you don't feel like listening to brutal death, black, doom or prog and want to enjoy some straightforward music and well-delivered female vocals.

Written by Irritable Ted on 20.03.2011 at 14:08

This is not metal anymore, not even rock really.

But I like what I have heard so far, it is not as bad as THOE, which I didn't like much as she was trying to sound like Avril Latrine. Far closer to TSF, my fav WT album.

Wasn't expecting to get this, but am tempted now. Think I may be turning in to a girl.

On my first listen. I love this album =P *looks in trousers* Yep... still a guy =P

For me very nice suprise... I was expecting something bad, but was really pleased. Really good album.

Such a shame...I miss the first album(their best by far) where they were pure metal. After that album they have always been somewhere between rock and metal, but I'm sad to see that they have now taken the step into rock/pop. This album may be what kills my interest in this band.

Written by D.a.n on 27.03.2011 at 23:11


Well, it is definitely miles from "tr00 metul" (and in fact it is cheesy, poppish and mainstream as hell) -- but that does not make it bad, if you want to hear my two eurocents.

Anyone who thought a new WT album (a comic-based concept album, mind you!) would be like their Gothic roots and Dance is very naïve (or blind and totally stupid) indeed...

The bottom line? Poppish symphonic rock for those days when you don't feel like listening to brutal death, black, doom or prog and want to enjoy some straightforward music and well-delivered female vocals.

Actually these are my very own thoughts...thnx
If they wanna do commercial stuff, they are free as long as the songs are good, I mean that Commercial stuff doesnt mean shitty stuff like a lot of people clearly think...
this whining started since the days of "The Silent Force", this band has Already & clearly changed their style long time ago...

Written by Enissa on 28.03.2011 at 22:35

Written by D.a.n on 27.03.2011 at 23:11


Well, it is definitely miles from "tr00 metul" (and in fact it is cheesy, poppish and mainstream as hell) -- but that does not make it bad, if you want to hear my two eurocents.

Anyone who thought a new WT album (a comic-based concept album, mind you!) would be like their Gothic roots and Dance is very naïve (or blind and totally stupid) indeed...

The bottom line? Poppish symphonic rock for those days when you don't feel like listening to brutal death, black, doom or prog and want to enjoy some straightforward music and well-delivered female vocals.

Actually these are my very own thoughts...thnx
If they wanna do commercial stuff, they are free as long as the songs are good, I mean that Commercial stuff doesnt mean shitty stuff like a lot of people clearly think...
this whining started since the days of "The Silent Force", this band has Already & clearly changed their style long time ago...

Well this time it does mean "shitty stuff", don't get me wrong I can listen to good pop, but this is garbage - uninspired, bland and without any good catchy melodies that "good pop" is about....
Actually I wasn't expecting anything for my liking when I started to listen to this album, so I'm not "disappointed" or "whining" about anything, but the album sounded much worse than I thought...

When i first listened to "What Have You Done" from "The Heart of Everything", i thought, "ok, i hope they don't turn this way"...and they did!

Even The Slent Force (btw my favourite WT album) and The Heart of Everything had strong choruses, a lot of keys, orquestral sections, and both were already modern gothic metal albums in opposite to the symphonic gothic metal of their early albums.

But on this one they managed to remove absolutely EVERYTHING i loved on them:

-Dynamic vocals, not the growls, but all the amazing varied parts Sharon did. Now it's just that strong and boring tune.
-Heaviness and orquestrations. They now sound modern rock with ocasional d-tuned guitars adding false weight to the songs.
-Great and strong drumming. I dunno if that's why their last drummer quit, but the drumming on this album is so boring and crappy, it hurts.

Ah! And "Faster" vaguely reminds "Wicked Games" from Chris Isaak. Not the pre-chorus (the repeated "faster, faster"), of course, but the rest of song.

This modern rock crap just isn't for me, plus it comes from a band that i used to love. Another sell out.

Written by Jeeers on 29.03.2011 at 00:29

Written by Enissa on 28.03.2011 at 22:35

Written by D.a.n on 27.03.2011 at 23:11


Well, it is definitely miles from "tr00 metul" (and in fact it is cheesy, poppish and mainstream as hell) -- but that does not make it bad, if you want to hear my two eurocents.

Anyone who thought a new WT album (a comic-based concept album, mind you!) would be like their Gothic roots and Dance is very naïve (or blind and totally stupid) indeed...

The bottom line? Poppish symphonic rock for those days when you don't feel like listening to brutal death, black, doom or prog and want to enjoy some straightforward music and well-delivered female vocals.

Actually these are my very own thoughts...thnx
If they wanna do commercial stuff, they are free as long as the songs are good, I mean that Commercial stuff doesnt mean shitty stuff like a lot of people clearly think...
this whining started since the days of "The Silent Force", this band has Already & clearly changed their style long time ago...

Well this time it does mean "shitty stuff", don't get me wrong I can listen to good pop, but this is garbage - uninspired, bland and without any good catchy melodies that "good pop" is about....
Actually I wasn't expecting anything for my liking when I started to listen to this album, so I'm not "disappointed" or "whining" about anything, but the album sounded much worse than I thought...

ok, fair enough, in the end everyone has a taste and opinion of him/her self...
and btw, I meant with these words people who cant listen to anything but metal...

Written by Guest on 29.03.2011 at 02:08

When i first listened to "What Have You Done" from "The Heart of Everything", i thought, "ok, i hope they don't turn this way"...and they did!

Even The Slent Force (btw my favourite WT album) and The Heart of Everything had strong choruses, a lot of keys, orquestral sections, and both were already modern gothic metal albums in opposite to the symphonic gothic metal of their early albums.

But on this one they managed to remove absolutely EVERYTHING i loved on them:

-Dynamic vocals, not the growls, but all the amazing varied parts Sharon did. Now it's just that strong and boring tune.
-Heaviness and orquestrations. They now sound modern rock with ocasional d-tuned guitars adding false weight to the songs.
-Great and strong drumming. I dunno if that's why their last drummer quit, but the drumming on this album is so boring and crappy, it hurts.

Ah! And "Faster" vaguely reminds "Wicked Games" from Chris Isaak. Not the pre-chorus (the repeated "faster, faster"), of course, but the rest of song.

This modern rock crap just isn't for me, plus it comes from a band that i used to love. Another sell out.

You are completely right.
Exactly my thoughts!

Written by Guest on 29.03.2011 at 02:08

Ah! And "Faster" vaguely reminds "Wicked Games" from Chris Isaak. Not the pre-chorus (the repeated "faster, faster"), of course, but the rest of song.

Actually, you may find it even more similar to HIM's cover -it's almost like WT was "inspired" by this version of the song

No doubt - this is a pure pop. So what? It's very good

Not very metal, but amazing nonetheless They're still amazing songwriters!

I didn't find anything special with this album.
All the songs were similar, with different intros!

I liked their earlier albums more.

So disappointing. It was only better than my expectations because I managed to like one song, and I expected to not like any of them. I found that all the songs started to sound the same, and they were all very radio-friendly. Ugh.

Doesn't have the same heavy feel of previous albums, but top marks for excellent songwriting. Very catchy stuff with great melodic hooks.

Written by D.a.n on 27.03.2011 at 23:11

Well, it is definitely miles from "tr00 metul" (and in fact it is cheesy, poppish and mainstream as hell) -- but that does not make it bad, if you want to hear my two eurocents.

Anyone who thought a new WT album (a comic-based concept album, mind you!) would be like their Gothic roots and Dance is very naïve (or blind and totally stupid) indeed...

The bottom line? Poppish symphonic rock for those days when you don't feel like listening to brutal death, black, doom or prog and want to enjoy some straightforward music and well-delivered female vocals.

Nailed it.

Yeah, it's commercial and radio-friendly, but weren't they upfront about that? Who's surprised, really? From the beginning they said, "This is going to have '80s influences." Honestly, I was only a casual WT fan at best - I like a handful of songs from THoE, think TSF is boring as hell, and still need to listen to ME (though I like what I've heard from it so far) - but I love this, and I really wasn't expecting to. The choruses are strong, and Sharon sounds fantastic. My only problem is that the album seems to lose steam after the first half. Still, I will definitely be picking this up.

A melodic album...nothing interesting

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

This an example, how band can become commercial...

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

The Unforgiving is a good album. Nothing really more than that.

Love the album, and also love the artwork. This the first album of the band I've enjoyed since their '98 EP this much. Absolutely looking forward to their US tour!

I like Michael Jackson - is he tr00? No. I don't like this album not because it's not tr00. And by the way, WT have never been a heavy sounding band.

Written by Zenzero on 21.04.2011 at 21:33

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

Why you telling that? I don't like songs just because they appear in games!! And still, i don't know what game your talking about! But now i'm asking you, is Unforgiving a good album??? Need a asnwer soon!

Written by Irritable Ted on 02.05.2011 at 18:49

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 18:19

Written by Zenzero on 21.04.2011 at 21:33

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

Why you telling that? I don't like songs just because they appear in games!! And still, i don't know what game your talking about! But now i'm asking you, is Unforgiving a good album??? Need a asnwer soon!

Lot of people don't like it. It is far away from their early sound.

I do like it, its more pop rock than metal, but there are some really good songs on there.

What songs?

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 19:04

Written by Irritable Ted on 02.05.2011 at 18:49

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 18:19

Written by Zenzero on 21.04.2011 at 21:33

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

Why you telling that? I don't like songs just because they appear in games!! And still, i don't know what game your talking about! But now i'm asking you, is Unforgiving a good album??? Need a asnwer soon!

Lot of people don't like it. It is far away from their early sound.

I do like it, its more pop rock than metal, but there are some really good songs on there.

What songs?

Thanks!!!

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 21:08

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 19:04

Written by Irritable Ted on 02.05.2011 at 18:49

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 18:19

Written by Zenzero on 21.04.2011 at 21:33

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

Why you telling that? I don't like songs just because they appear in games!! And still, i don't know what game your talking about! But now i'm asking you, is Unforgiving a good album??? Need a asnwer soon!

Lot of people don't like it. It is far away from their early sound.

I do like it, its more pop rock than metal, but there are some really good songs on there.

What songs?

Thanks!!!

Hey the name Shot in the Dark isn't a name of a song of Ozzy Osbourne??? funny...

Written by John Shock on 02.05.2011 at 18:19

Written by Zenzero on 21.04.2011 at 21:33

Written by John Shock on 14.04.2011 at 02:33

Men, i've heard then "faster" song and i must say...wow! Men love it! nothing more to say! Now i muts hear the entire album!

faster?? I'm sure you just knew it under the name of wicked game!

Why you telling that? I don't like songs just because they appear in games!! And still, i don't know what game your talking about! But now i'm asking you, is Unforgiving a good album??? Need a asnwer soon!

ehehehe you're misunderstanding me!!! listen to the song wicked game by HIM (it's a cover) and you'll understand what I mean!

Nice and catchy pop rock album. I don't even know why people are still looking for metal in Within Temptation. It's just pop rock with guitars mixed louder in than usual pop rock.